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Title: IGT Vision Low Battery Post by: tacman on September 19, 2008, 11:36:04 AM cfh
IGT Vision low main battery « on: July 04, 2008, 03:01:48 PM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On my RW&B vision I'm getting a "main battery low" error message on the small blue dot matrix display. I pulled the processor board and found it has two batteries - one rechargable NiCad (which started to leak and was showing zero volts), and a coin-sized BR2330 (which shows 2.5 volts). I replaced the NiCad with a remote three AA battery pack with a blocking diode (so it doesn't try and recharge the AA batteries, and remote so no more leaking causing board corrosion). I'll try replacing the coin sized BR2330 next with a socket and replacable CR2032 lithium 3 volt battery. But which is the "main" battery? and what do they call the other battery? And why are there TWO batteries? What is the purpose of that? thanks! cfh Re: IGT Vision low main battery « Reply #1 on: July 04, 2008, 03:22:23 PM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After replacing the coin battery, now have 3.2 volts showing at the battery and at pin 28 of the 628512 RAM chips. But now i get the error, "call attendant, RAM ERROR". Machine goes no where, vision LCD does nothing, this error comes on immediately. Ok so what did i do here? Do i need a clear chip or a key chip? i have an EPROM programmer so that's no problem. Thanks! Blueridgeslots Re: IGT Vision low main battery « Reply #2 on: July 04, 2008, 07:12:20 PM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keep turning the Jackpot reset key until the display shows push and hold self test button, then after that close the door, (just follow the display) cfh Re: IGT Vision low main battery « Reply #3 on: July 04, 2008, 07:53:23 PM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks! Yup open the coin door, turn the jackpot reset key and it gives you all sorts of messages which are advanced as you turn the jackpot key. and then it says to press the self-test button for 2-3 seconds, and then does an "auto-config" and "MsVerify". Takes a while but it eventually comes up with "Restart Closure M" and then "Primary SAS Down". Won't go past that. but i'll try messing around with the self-tests. At least the battery low message is gone! Title: Re: IGT Vision Low Battery Post by: tacman on September 19, 2008, 11:40:15 AM DJH
Re: IGT Vision low main battery « Reply #4 on: July 04, 2008, 08:41:02 PM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you get the SAS message the fastest way to get rid of it is to do a clear rather then trying to undo the last casino's setup that was left on the board. Much quicker to re-setup the denom then having to undo SAS - IMHO If you just want to undo SAS I think you have to Key chip it but not sure on that one. cfh Re: IGT Vision low main battery « Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 04:35:44 AM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Where is the key chip available? Blueridgeslots Re: IGT Vision low main battery « Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 08:09:12 PM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote from: cfh on July 05, 2008, 04:35:44 AM Where is the key chip available? We can supply it as well as the clear cfh Re: IGT Vision low main battery « Reply #7 on: July 11, 2008, 07:47:53 PM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok i got the Key Chip (thanks Dave!), but really did not need it. Just in case anyone cares, it goes in socket U21 on the main (lower) processor board. It's a very strange system. put it in, boot up, nothing happens. turn it off, put original U21 chip back in, boot up. Press 'test' button, and key chip info is there on the vision screen. You can change options like payback percentage (which was not an option on the test menus before installing the key chip). After you boot up the next time, the key chip options are gone, and you're back to the 'normal' test menus. Also I should mention there is yet ANOTHER battery in this machine! In the "top" computer, the one with the flash card that runs the color vision display, there is another coin style battery. That makes THREE batteries. Wow that's a lot of batteries. In the end, i really did not need the key chip. Instead to get rid of the "primary sas down" message, go to test menu 3.4 and disable SAS. There is primary and secondary SAS. it's kind of strange and not so easy to disable, but i manged to get through the menus and figure it out. Game now plays fine! I will say this though, i'm pretty underwhelmed by the s2000 vision (mine is RW&B). The williams dotmation is a MUCH better game in my opinion. Not color, but the bonus games and dot matrix display is just more fun than the vision system. The WMS stuff has humor and is fun. The IGT vision is very stiff. Obviously better color graphics, but just very stiff. Also the WMS dotmations talk, where the vision (at least the one i have) does not. the IGT sound kind of sucks too - sound is much more elaborate on the dotmation, where the IGT is just a step up from the S+ in sound 'tones'. Maybe i need to convert the RW&B to another game? Because again, i'm pretty underwhelmed. Is there a better game i could convert to without spending a zillion dollars? and damn i bet it takes 5 minutes for this vision to boot up and play! http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/igt_rwb_vision1.jpg http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/igt_rwb_vision2.jpg http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/igt_rwb_vision3.jpg http://www.pinrepair.com/arcade/igt_rwb_vision4.jpg DJH Re: IGT Vision low main battery « Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 08:54:24 PM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just to note you will need the key 17 at some point to make any system changes like % and what not. When you boot up with it installed you are waiting for the 2 lights to be lit on the MPU which is the indicator that the key chip was accepted. The extra battery on the board is to enable the system to keep track of things when the game is off. If you open the door when the game is off it book keeps it! The upper Vision Batt is for the CMOS of the board which is really a mini PC computer. The sound on the WMS for sure is better for it's time and they went with 32 MB of sound capacity back in 96 which was way ahead of IGT. IGT with the vision platform gained that memory capacity and went wit a windows 95 upper platform. If you change a jumper on the board you will see the windows boot sequence, you hook up a key board you can use it as a really old and slow computer. The big issue with them is that the software gets corrupt and it's near impossible to fix it. Some Vision Games do talk like hexbreaker which is not a bad vision game, LGM and Munsters are others that are good. Also if you installed a DSV0026 on the main board (MML2) it will also increase the SPIN sounds on some games etc. r273 Re: IGT Vision low main battery « Reply #10 on: July 12, 2008, 05:28:49 AM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "and damn i bet it takes 5 minutes for this vision to boot up and play!" cfh, I have the same game. Change out the NJ version chip say to a VS009SX0 or try something else and it does not go though the long boot up sequence on the screen. cfh Re: IGT Vision low main battery « Reply #11 on: July 12, 2008, 06:26:54 AM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And where might i get that non-NJ version chip? Also what is the procedure to change games? do you have to change the flashcard in the upper computer too? (which i would guess is for the bonus game only?) and what is the jumper change on the upper computer so you can see the Win95 bootup sequence? thanks! DJH Re: IGT Vision low main battery « Reply #12 on: July 14, 2008, 09:19:13 PM » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome back! That's right they used windows for workgroups and not 95, I stand corrected. I agree if you build a key board adapter like you have or did you can fix the OS if you know what you are doing I think it was heart breaker that I played, maybe not hex, have to look it up DSV0024, 26 and 42 CFG - Get one of each and try it out, 24 seams to be the most popular one. |