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hello, i am new to slots in the home. just received the triple bonanza for christmas. it does not have a coin acceptor - just bills. we have been playing the machine using a 100 bill and just getting it out and reusing it. i noticed somewhere online that we could set the number of credits a bill would generate - say if you put in a one dollar bill you could get 100 credits, etc. i found that setting under "tokenization" but could not seem to set it. the lights on the buttons went out every time it showed what a particular setting the machine was set to and several places displayed "field locked" or some such. my question is how do i set the individual settings on the machine? do i have to get a chip or something? i also would like to set the max credits stored in the machine to more than 1000 (so it doesn't print tickets all the time) and i found that place too, but could not change the setting. also, this machine was made in 2003 - is it an s+ OR S2000? thanks in advance to all the experts out there with any info you may be able to supply! :)

My guess is that it's an S2000 because you seen "2003" on a tag but it would help you and us much more if you posted a picture of your machine and there will be several fellow members that would be able to help you get your machine running the way you want it to!

here are some pics. i will try to post another of the serial.

one more...

That's an S2000. I'm moving the topic to that category.

If you want to change any of the limits, they can be changed without a key chip, but you MUST have zero credits on the machine to do these changes. You said you have already found the test button so no need for me to go there. When changing anything and everything you will be using four buttons on the play deck. Spin button goes into each section, cash out and service buttons will increase or decrease the amounts you want, and MAX Bet button will save your settings. ( It's really no big deal, you can't hurt anything by pushing the wrong button )

Now sooner or later your going to need a clear and a key chip. What I need for you do do is with the power off to the machine remove the MPU ( the board that has the test button ) Caution do not use your thumb when pulling the board out. ( Hurts like hell ) Now please post the numbers on the Game chips. They will be something like SG000???, I think your base chip is SB1000084.

there are two sg chips that say 1 of 2 and 2 of 2 with the number sg000312 on both of them. i do not see any chips that start with sb, but there is one that has something markered over (could be "version") and then "chip" and below that "vs011nx4". that chip sits between what appear to be sim type memory slots. i have attached a photo of the board. i got the credit limit raised and the time and date set by cashing out the credits just like you said. i would like to buy the chips i will eventually need if you could point me in the right direction to get them. thanks so much for the help! :)

The SB chip is the 40 pin chip that's next to the SG chips that doesn't have a label.  The window on it really does need covered. ( UV erases the chip using that window ) Put a label on it, the number is SB100084.  That 40 pin chip is where you will be putting the clear and then the key chip, someday.

Here's the best deal I've made this year, Donate 25 dollars to NLG if you have it, if not I'll send the chips anyway.  A Key 31, Clear 97, (2) SG000363 Game, and a V011GX1 Version chip. I think you will like the display on the VFD ( Blue Screen ) better with the SG000363 and if you change the Version all you will need is another button on the play deck to make it a multi Denomination game. ( the wiring is already installed by IGT )

Just send me a PM with your address.

Oh and that Green battery on your board has to go.  Last time I talked a guy into removing that battery I ended up at his house replacing the board.  Hope you live close by.

Pay attention to what Buzz is telling you wla357 as this is a VERRRRY GENEROUS offer givin to you .  P.B.

i will cover that with a label and the proper #. i was going to make a donation anyway - this forum rocks with all the willing help. so i'll do that right after posting this. i've made the best deal of the year! ;)

by multi denomination game you mean it'll play for both catholics AND protestants? what a deal. seriously, what does that mean? and what do i need to do, just cut a 1" or so hole in the deck and add another button? sounds cool, but i don't know if my wife is gonna be too thrilled about me and a hole saw around her christmas present!

what's the deal with the green battery? do i need to remove it? replace it? is there something inherently wrong with green batteries? now my wife is gonna see me with a hole saw AND a soldering iron. uh oh.

one more thing for tonight - is there a way of programming the amount of credits a certain bill will enter into the machine? like can i set it to give me a hundred credits just by inserting a one dollar bill or similar?

ok, i'm off to donate then i'll pm my addy. thanks mucho for all the help! :)

absolutely plunger boy. i certainly appreciate everyone's help.

 The Paper dollar can not be changed to a different amount But coins can be tokenized to any amount . Your machine needs to have coin handling installed in it . It can be added if it is not in there . The green battery in a NON enhanced board is not needed and will eventually leak and corrode your board an ruin it . So it is best to remove it and then just enjoy the hobby .  The multi demonation is for different amounts of monies played per spin  . Like .25 / .50/ $1/ $2 /  There is usually extra plugs in the button panel to add a button with out drilling any holes  P.B.

Bill     no hole saw needed.  See that square plate to your right of the MAX BET button, under that plate is the hole and if you look close you will find the four wires that go to the new button.  They are Yellow, Black, Blue, and Red. Multi Denom is the ability to change the value of each credit played. Example if you set your multi Denom to a Penny, Nickle, Dime, and Quarter ( your stuck with just four ) run a dollar bill into the BV, if you pick a Penny, your 3 coin machine will play 33 games with out a win. It's costing you three cents a spin, if your feeling like a big spender, pick a dime and now it's costing you thirty cents a spin. So what Multi Denom is going to give you is exactly what you have been asking if it can be done. 100 credits for a dollar.

Now the Green battery isn't needed for home use and they tend to start leaking acid and harming the MPU. Just be carefull and don't damage the traces on the board that are right below the battery. You can use a screw driver and break the metal strap from the battery, then just bend the strap back and forth until it breaks from the board right at the solder joints.

Let me look around tomorrow and see if I have a new square button for you, I know I have some rectangle ones but I think that would look like crap.  I'll also mail the chips tomorrow.

  Thanks for the donation, wish a whole lot more folks would do the same thing.

He can forgo coin handling and set his accounting denom to a penny, that way his $100 is worth 10,000 credits

thanks buzz. i did find the plate - never even saw that before!. seems like an easy mod and i'll get the battery off the board tonight. i like the idea of 100 credits for a buck. thanks again for the help. :)

wow. just took the battery off and it had quite a bit of acid already leaking out. luckily, it doesn't look like it had damaged the board yet. did you end up finding a switch? if not let me know where i can buy one because that sure looks like the way to go.

I didn't get a chance to look, I've been messing around with Doctors all day. I'll find you a button even if I have to take one off of a machine.

how hard is it to convert my machine to take quarters and pay out quarters again and where do i find/buy the parts to do so? also does anyone know what the 72 stop map is for this game? thanks!

Bill it's not difficult at all, ball park about 100 bucks. IMO a waste of a C note. I'm glad you ask, why did he say that. Most of the machines I sell the buyer wants coin handling, they get it home and one of the first calls they make to me is " How do I disable the coin hopper "? "someone hit the cash out button, the machine has 2000 credits and I only have 25 quarters in the hopper" What do I do ???  OH and don't forget the different coin errors your gonna get. Oh and don't forget the " Someone keeps filling their pockets with my quarters "

Now that I see I haven't talked you out of it your going to need a coin head, coin comparator, coin comparator bracket with coin out optics, a wire harness, a coin chute, and a hopper. Forgot a coin tray if you don't already have one.

Ros @ CVslots may have what you need, Rudys Deals, Raz410,  LA Slots or just post Want To Buy

some very good advice as usual, buzz. however, i thought i saw an option somewhere where i could set cashout to print a ticket instead of sending quarters to the tray? or maybe anything cashed out over x amount would go to the ticket printer? i just have that idea in my head of visiting casinos in years gone by and hearing the quarters piling into the metal tray at the bottom and going back to the hotel room with a cup full (a few times!) of quarters and feeling like midas. but if it's not worth it, it's just not. anyway, nice to know it can at least be done! thanks again. :)

hey buzz, any idea why the bill acceptor won't take ones, fives or tens? twenties and hundreds just fine....

and also, is there away to get the acceptor to take it's own printed tickets?

There are a lot of post on this subject, if you go up to the Blue tab " Forum Index " click on it then down to BV and click there you will find more reading than you will want.

OK I'm going to assume you have a WBA like the pictures I attached. On the lower front of the BV you will see a flat bar, pull it down and out at the same time the whole BV will slide out. Look at the side that was towards the door latch and you will see (8) small white dip switches, make sure all (8) are in the up position (OFF) the switches were installed upside down by JCM.

Now you need to clean the optics. With the BV facing you there will be (2) small ears that are are 5/16" tall, using you index fingers pull the ears toward yourself  at the same time push up on the cover with your thumbs. Now you have found the optics, most folks on this site use a Q Tip and mild soap, I use the same process that my Grandmother used to clean my dirty face when I was a youngester, spit on a soft rag and smear your DNA around.

Now if the two above didn't help you may need to get your BV updated. If you have a WBA-12 -SS  it will need to be sent to someone that can flash program it, If you have a WBA-13-SS they use a eprom program. Look on the bottom rear of the transport, if you see a eprom it's a 13. Look and see if the transport has a tag telling you the version installed, I think the newest is V 3.80-34


Ticket In Ticket Out       Read this thread  http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=20544.0   




It's true you can set the hopper limits to any number of coins you wish. Someone hits cash out the hopper will pay out that limit and the remainder will go to the printer



Fixed a broken quote tag. -knagl

hey buzz, i got the package today and came home to install everything. but when i put in the new version chip and the two game chips and powered on i got a european sounding siren and the display read "ram error". so then i removed all three and replaced the originals and now it does the same siren and says "system error". any ideas what i need to do? thanks!

by the way, the problem accepting bills was three of the switches were set to on. i switched em and now it works fine. the tito is on the way too so thanks for that info!

Put the eproms I sent you back in and power on the machine. when you hear that God awful alarm, turn the jackpot key a few times, now watch the VFD display and follow the direction's it gives you. Should go like " press test button for 3 seconds ( button on the MPU) then :close main door" wait a while then you should see " Call Attendant " open the main door and alarm will sound again, turn the key a few times again. Now the machine may boot up and sometimes it will make you do all the above again. If you have to do the above more than 3 times, your going to have to do a clear and key.

well, that was easy enough! booted right up first time through turning the jackpot key four times. the first three it gave me some dire warnings about settings gonna be lost, etc. once i closed the door when it said so it came right up.

i also installed the multidenom switch you sent. but i feel like an idiot again. is there something i need to do to get it operative? i looked through the setup menus but didn't see anything.

by the way, i'd like to pay ya something on these chips and switch you sent. you shouldn't do that for nothing! just tell me what you think is fair. thanks again for all the help. :)

This old thread may help you.    http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=12388.0

With zero credits on the machine there is a out side chance you will not have to do a clear. Might have a problem because we don't know what the last person set your accounting denom. at. The lowest denom you want can not be lower than the present accounting denom setting. The only way to change the accounting denom is with a clear chip. ( AND THAT SHOULD BE THE ONLY TIME YOUR EVER GOING TO NEED A CLEAR CHIP )

Here is a thread with complete instructions on how to do a clear and key.    http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=21991.msg175841;topicseen#new

You don't owe me a dime, a deal is a deal, besides it's just something I do,   If you have trouble PM me your phone number and I will be back about 6 PM West Coast time.

ok, making progress i think. went through the clear and key chip instructions and set the accounting denom to .01. after that i was able to define player 1 as .01, player 2 as .05, player 3 as .10, and player 4 as .25. i also read on one of those threads where you could set the payback for each denom - like put .25 at 97% and .01 at 93% and so on but it seems to be stuck at what my chip is, namely sb6296 (95%). can i set the percentages DOWN from 95? and if i got a 97% chip set them up to 97%? or do they all get stuck on whatever the chip is? i think it would be cool to let the user pick their denomination but the odds get better the higher the denom is set at. or maybe i'm just dreaming. lol

but the button to change the denom still doesn't appear to be active. the screen says a credit is worth .01, but i can't seem to change it. i tried it with the credits at zero and with credits at 100. i have gone through the menus looking for an option to "activate denom" or similar but found nothing.

how does that button normally operate? i've never used a machine with it there before. i don't know if it is supposed to light up at certain times or what.

by the way, you were right about the new display. i really like the info it shows much better than the previous chip.

ok got it! i was reading another thread again and noticed the 7.1.2 menu and went through the key process again and enabled those games and voila! now my only question is there was only the 95% payback option listed for each denom. is there a way of setting different paybacks for different denoms?

this stuff is fascinating to me and way cool! lol :)

hey buzz, i'd like to buy a higher percentage payout chip, like maybe the ss6295 (i currently have the 6296 95% chip installed) any advice on where's the best place to go for that? also, i can't seem to change the payout percentages for the different games on 7.1.2. any idea why? by the way, how's the eyes doing?

You have a better one than I do, best I can do is SS6297   92.51 %.   What you really need is a SB100084 Base chip and shit can your SB001000 and SS chip. (sorry I don't have that base chip )   

Basically a SB001000 is a generic base chip and along with a SS chip you can use a S+ game theme in a S 2000.  A lot of S+ game themes IGT never made a SB chip for them. In your case Triple Bonanza 3 reel 3 coin they did, a SB1000084. If you can find the new SB chip you can set your pay percentages in Key menu, range is usually between 98% and 85%. you can even pick different % for different denom.

If you do find a SB100084 you will not need a SS chip, just leave that socket empty.

Oh I forgot. They gave me a shot in the eye ball and it didn't do a damn thing, I still see waive lines with the right eye.

sorry to hear about the eye. hopefully they'll get that under control.

so my understanding is that i probably have the older 1000 generic sb chip with a 95% ss chip. and i need to look for an 84 chip. cool. i will put up a wanted to buy right away. last time i key chipped the machine i bent a leg on that sb chip but carefully straightened it out, but i'm gonna need one anyway as a backup. :)

thanks again.

buzz, got the bettor tito installed today and works like a dream. made a $1000 ticket. way cool.

also ordered one of those sb chips from a member for $15 so after that gets here i should be all done "tuning" this machine. now i'm looking for a red white and blue deluxe s2000 at a reasonable price to go next to the triple bonanza! ;)

hey buzz, maybe i'm doing something wrong again, but i don't know what it might be. maybe you know. i put in a new sb100084 chip today. key chipped, then installed it and took out the 95% chip that was in there. went to the game selection menu and changed the game percentages and then started playing. unfortunately, the payout is totally incorrect. it now pays 2 credits on three reels coming up blanks, doesn't pay anything at all for cherries, the seven is now wild, doesn't pay anything for three any bars, etc., etc. it does this on all percentage games. is there something i'm doing wrong? it seems like the chip is designed for a completely different game than the "triple bonanza" i have....

Bill It's nothing you did, the only thing I can think of is someone sent you the wrong chip, or the list I have is wrong and you need a different chip.  My list calls for SB100084 for Triple Bonanza 3R 1L 3C with a pay of 7,500. We are talking about the machine in the picture you posted aren't we ??

I gotta ask, any chance you had the reels out and maybe got them back in the wrong location ??

SB100084 is correct and all 3 strips are the same, you have wrong SB chip most likely, go into menu (1) Accounting... Program Version Accounting... and toggle to Base Chip SB number and see what number you actually have in machine

you hit the nail on the head again. it's a 100087 not the 84. the guy i got it from said he had a 100087 but i asked the the 84 and he said he made a typo. must have programmed it still coming up an 87 or something although the label says it's an 84. i'll contact him and see if i can get the correct chip. thanks! i was going crazy here.

by the way, what game is the 87 from? maybe i should get some reel strips and glass for it.....