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Has anyone Else been taken by JJ SLOTS? I purchased a WMS game from JJ SLOTS on ebay (it is still listed) The game is Venice riches on original WMS card. I asked for this game. He has at the bottom this wording   No returns due to the fact that software can be copied! (No problem I agree with this) So what does he do? HE SENDS ME A BOOTLEGGED FAKE COPY ON AN OLD SANDISK CARD!!!  Who or what business does this to people? Left  two messages but of course no reply.  Mad as hell but what can I do? Does he think no one can tell a fake copy from the original WMS card?  I am sure none of you here on NLG would do this and not put up with this behavior. Does anyone know this person? I will never do business with him again and hope none of you have to deal with him and let him roll you. This is his card he sent (why he would send his name and card after deceiving some one is beyond me)!!  Can you members chip in on this? Thanks for letting me blow off steam Dave

Gee, surprise....surprise....... surprise......and the OWNER IS.........

That is very odd, as this post seems different than card!   Hmmm strange isn't it

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=19433.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=19433.0)

I do not know who these two/one person is, but is JJslots a member here?  From what I just read from above post I gather that someone who swears that they are HONEST and TRUStWORTHY  may not be who they say they are? I may be wrong as I know nothing of these people but it sounds like JJ SLOTS  name on NLG is really_____________? As I am not  fully informed of all the facts I will leave it up to someone who is to fill in blanks, as it is the right thing to set record straight. 

All I ask of you JJ SLOTS is that you refund my money and I will returned your sandisk card.  Hope you can find it in yourself to right your wrong and do this. Thanks

sorry  but everything i got thur jj was 1st class ,  i,m happy with the service i got thur them and other vendors here there supply a service to all slot owners , if it works and its a copy no big deal, its a backup

I've bought from JJ slots numerous times and as Steve said, always 1st class. He has always provided what he said and always fast shipping and tech support, I'm sure there must be a misunderstanding and sure he will take care of any issues that you have.

So slotsteve its Ok to advertise an item  that is real  and then after a customer pays for said item send them a FAKE!!!  IS THIS WHAT YOU DO ALSO? IS this OK with you? REALLY!! Are there any other vendors that will do this also on this site? IF so please list their names!  Will any of you vendors chip in and tell us that this is the way you do business, or can you explain the way it should be done. Is it not wrong to lie and cheat your customers?  Am I wrong in believing you should be honest?

I looked on ebay. It says used. How do you know he is the one who copied it? I DON'T KNOW but maybe that's the way he got it.

How can you say it is a misunderstanding if I was sent a completely different different item then I paid for. Not even close. If its a misunderstanding why no reply back . Why the lies to you all on NLG about who he is?.  Is it ok because you got what you want and screw everyone eles if they are cheated. Is this the way you do business also? Have learned a few things today about a few of you in the last couple of minutes.

I agree.  If something is advertised as genuine or original, then that's what you should get.  I think we banned Jodel from this site in the past for bootlegging manuals.  JJslots is not a member here, but I'm sure those who stepped up in their name can contact them for you so that they reply.  If the weather is anything like it was here yesterday, then they may not be done shovelling yet.

W

ORIGINAL-Is orginal if advertised that way.  I do say some make their games work on other.  If I ever represent orginal that is what you get for what ever it is.  You have a case and some "others" do as well. B.

His feedback is not bad. Only on neg.

   
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Is this the auction we are talking about?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WMS-WILLIAMS-BLUEBIRD-SLOT-MACHINE-GAME-SOFTWARE-USED-/261164027864?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cce96cfd8 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WMS-WILLIAMS-BLUEBIRD-SLOT-MACHINE-GAME-SOFTWARE-USED-/261164027864?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cce96cfd8)

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If you go on ebay to JJ's ebay listing and look at the upper left corner you will see a original WMS card with the game title Venice Riches This is what I asked for and paid for(paid full price did not try to offer less) The card I received is the one I have attached. It is NOT the one shown and not the one I  paid for. It is a copy on an old san disk card. How can you call it a misunderstanding? He lied and cheated me. Why would any of you back him up? Is it because you got what you want and f___k anyone eles who got cheated. Tell me again how it is all right what he has done.  How many of you would sit back and let this happen to you?

Yes Dan, Does the card on ebay look like the one I received?   If I wanted a copy and not the real one on ebay I would have make my own copy myself He made no mistake in sending me a fake!

Nice fake label, not even close.  Typical bait and switch.  Send it to WMS and let their lawyers deal with him.

isnt coorslight jj slots? hes always on here......im sure he will give ya a refund if your not happy.....

Well, COORSLIGHT has been denying it all along that he is not JJSLOTS but the card he sent with his fake CF card clears that up once and for all.

I would say "cool your Jets"  --I have been following this as well as others.  You have made your point.  You probably have a case/beef.  Copying software carries a HEAVY penality.  --Way more than anyone here could drop the hammer on.  Backing up orginal for files and use to keep games going is ok.  Anyway relax and enjoy life--Just my 2 cents--B.

Thank you IDESIGN and others for seeing what I see

I'm with PWRSTROKE, point made. I'm sure a lot are doing the same thing. LET'S NOT SCREW THIS SITE UP - WE ALL ENJOY IT TO MUCH.

 :259- I agree with powerstroke and Fordsbs, give it a little time.

i didn,t see anything in the ebay ad that said your were getting what was in pic,  funny i got clear chips  that had hand written  label  did i cry hell no they worked. time to put a lock on this

I think it's best for Slot One just to file a RESOLVE A PROBLEM on ebay as NOT AS DESCRIBED., and let ebay deal with it.  He can also file a claim on PAYPAL too.

I agree with you guys also Did not mean to offend anyone and if I did I am sorry.  Taking deep breath and letting out slowly.  Sometimes a guy justs gets a little worked up.Just wanted to stand up for myself.  Thank you everyone for your thoughts.

Jeff,  You are correct.  We all know what e-bay will do--- :89-.   Been thru it and got ripped but in this case--- :103---B.

Myself, I have had only great luck with JJ slots.  Always got what I ordered in a timely way.  Ordered there many times.

I do not want to persue the ebay route just would like refund. Sorry to all on making big deal out of it. I do not want to ruin JJ on ebay  as I know that can suck.

We understand.  This is rants and raves and it is the appropriate place to blow off steam.  I'm sure after the people that know them, let them know how you feel, they will issue a refund.

Have a great night,
Wayne

Thanks Wayne. I supect too that I will hear from him and will get refund. After all this how not!!  lol

I can not believe you said this, as somebody who has raised more hell about eBay sellers and purchases made on eBay

I'm sure he won't even respond, the guy is an arrogant flake, ripped me off also.

 :331-  Most likely the auction was covered by eBay Buyer's Protection... invoke that and get a refund.