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Where do I get a new proximity switch for the above. I have checked this with a flashlight and it works. I believe the other side of the switch is bad. Is there any way to bypass? When I check input I get a 1 when open and it changes from 0 to 1 constantly when closed and realignment did not work. This leaves me with a coin lock out 1,2,3 so I cannot play the game. Any help would be appreciated.

You checked it with a flashlight?   :103-

Regardless, from what you've posted, it sounds like your door optics are indeed working correctly and do not need to be replaced.  On the self-test inputs screen, the door should show a steady "1" when it is open, and should flicker between 1 and 0 when it's closed.

"coin lock out 1,2,3" isn't a PE+ error message, so to give you further help we'll need to know what the issue is that you're having with the machine, and the exact error message on the screen, please.

You are correct I get a one when open and it flicker 1 / 0 when closed. The machine will not accecpt coins or bills. I have changed out the coin comparator and the bill validator is red and lets me put bills in and they out. In test mode or test input screen I show a 1 for A, B, and C coin detectors, door open (because when testing it is). Any thing else to check or try.
Regards,
Kirk

When you drop a coin in where does it go, to the tray or the hopper ??

The tray. Change out hopper, bill validated, and coin acceptor a few minutes ago no change but they work with another machine. Do I need to due a ram clear. It was working till my wife put an old bill in it. Thanks for the help. I am stuck.
Regards,
Kirk

NO  give your Wife the clear chip and have her hid it from you.

Let's eliminate one thing at a time. Pull the coin comparator and block open the rake on the back side of it and see what happens.

Done no change in machine. Wife has Ram chip.

Right below the coin comparator you will see the coin optic board ( Green ) on that board there is a very, very small white button. Press that button a few times and see if the machine will play one hand with the main door open

Yes I could play one hand.

What does that tell us. yep coin optics are bad or just dirty. First thing I would do is clean them. I've read all about usng a Q tip and with the comparator removed reach down the coin path and clean the optics.  Me I just take one all apart and clean it good.  Maybe cleaning will fix the problem and maybe it won't. Don't forget to take what ever you blocked the rake open, out.

Looking at your axatar I think for helping you I should get a " Get Out Of Jail Free " card.

I just thought of something, did you recently change this machine from a dollar to a quarter/nickel  ?? Did the machine ever except coins ??

This machine has always taken quarters. I did try tokens but they jammed in the payout run so I just used quarters.  took the coin acceptor apart and cleaned with a q tip and dry air. No change when I put the machine back together. I tried another coin acceptor same problem on this machine other machine works fine, also quarter but a cat and dog machine. I have four IGT and one Bally.
Regards,
Kirk

Kirk  I don't think it's the coin comparator. I think your problem is in the coin optics that are located below the comparator.  If you feel like it, try switching the optics with another machine, so long as the other machine is a S+ or a PE/PE+ Been a long time since I did one but I think there are only 4 screws and one plug.

I changed out the entire coin system the wiring plugs into a black loose base. I took the complete coin in mech and put it into the cats and dog machine and it worked fine there. The multi poker shows no change. I have data Prom: XM00007P, Game Prom: XMP000006, Charator CG2233 if that helps. When I test the coin comparator I do get the green light. The rake also works when tested. I do show a 1 in coin diverter

It played one game using the pseudo coin button on the coin optics, your gonna have to convince me something is wrong with the software.

This is a slant top isn't it, That complete coin handling just lifts out from one plug.  Any chance there may be a broken wire from the machine to that plug ?? Or take a good look at the pins and see if one of them is bent.

I don't understand why you guys are suspecting that there's a problem with the optics?  KirknDee has stated that the A, B, and C optics all show "1" in the Self Test Inputs screen (which indicates normal, working behavior).  He also stated that all coins are being rejected to the tray.  That implies to me that the coin comparator is the issue here, and likely just needs to be adjusted to be less likely to reject coins.  Please follow these two steps:

- Remove and re-insert the sample coin in the comparator.  Make sure it's seating properly -- use your other machines as a reference as to how the coin should be sitting in the comparator.

- Adjust the sensitivity of the comparator to make it less likely to reject coins.  Here's a post on how to do that. (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=10759.msg93615#msg93615)


For the bill validator, since you said it's enabled and trying to accept a bill, please use ONLY a $1 bill in good condition, face up, while troubleshooting.

I have one and have noticed that when i get the error i have to open and then close the hatch (door) to clear the error

also i have noticed that you can up the door in test mode (first push of test switch) and close the door and see if the settings still show that all the optics are still working i have had them all set at 1's and when i closed the (door) they went to 0's 

check this and reprort back

Lyzard

For the record, you had a different issue with your machine (a Coin-in Timeout error was appearing on the screen).  KirknDee hasn't indicated that there's any kind of error message, just that it's rejecting all coins.   :71-

I stand corrected

I have had all ones and then the coins still wouldn't accept had to tightin the screws on the black connector so it would not move and it works perfect now might check

Lyzard

I cleaned out the male and female plugs last night. I will test with a VOM this morning. I will also take some pictures. The thing that gets me is I changed out the hopper and coin Assembly completely and they work just fine in my Cat and Dog machine. Is the wire diagrams about the same as a IGT S-Plus. I will sent where everything is when going thru the test mode to see if you see anything wrong. This machine was working fine until my wife tried to put an old $ 20.00 bill in it. I cleaned the Bill validator and tested it in another machine once it was clean. Could she have messed up the transport assembly? I know she was in there getting her money back but I do not know what she did. Thanks for all the help folks. I run ships for a living Chief Engineer so I don't work on many slots.
Regards,
Kirk

Look at this thread. reply #23      http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4226.msg8620#msg8620

Here are the first pictures. Hope they come out ok.

All wire check out. I did find that the solid Orange  ( front row left) and Purple (Left side, third row and last row used) have wiring to plug at coin harness female connection but none on the coin unit it self.

I show a 1 in the coin out does that mean anything?

It means that your coin out optic is working properly.

Have you done what I asked you to do in Reply #15 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=24219.msg189434#msg189434) above?

I have tried what you mention in reply 15. I reset the senativity all the way to minus. I also looked at the dollar bill validate article and followed that. The dollar bill validator cycles just as it should and is installed correctly. The dollar bill goes in and after a period of maybe 20 seconds comes back out when in the test mode and it lights up. The coins drop right on thru to top bin just as before.  When I push the small white button on the coin validator I can play a game with the door open and if I win the coins are dispensed normally. I also noticed when I press that white button and am in test mode ( first screen anfter pushing test button next to power on / off) it lets the B coin change from 1 to 0. I cleaned the coin validator by dissemble and checked it on another machine, ok. I see I have a 1 on coin out is that what should show. I read about using the cardboard trick and testing the coin acceptor or trying another test that has you remove the coin acceptor but leave it connected. Should I try any of those? These are from eel Slots- IGT S and S plus Games - by Waynelk 12-3-2009 at 07:24:47.
Regards,
Kirk

Kirk  When you had the rake blocked open, did the coin fall to the hopper or to the tray ??

If I did it correctly the coins went to the tray.

Let's do a little coin comparator 101.   With the machine in idle  the rake in the CC is closed, you drop a coin in and  CC reads the coin and if it's accepted as a good coin the rake opens and the coin falls through the coin optics, and is counted as one credit, coin contunes it's falls into the hopper.

Now with the rake blocked open every coin should drop through the coin optics to the hopper. Let me warn you this idea of blockng the rake open is not a good idea. Reason being each and every coin droped iinto the coin head will go to the hopper. With the rake blocked open you can and will have folks dropping all kinds of different size coins into the hopper. You can even drop a flat washer in and it will be counted as a good coin. But OHH S**t  look at the MESS you have in the hopper.

I blocked the rake open and the coin goes to the hopper. The coin detector b and c change from a 1 to a 0 when the coin passes thru.
Thanks for the fast response even on a Holiday weekend. I have sick and that slowed me down yesterday and this morning.
Regards,
Kirk

OK With the coins going to the hopper they should be counted as a good coin and add credits. can you play a game ??

No I cannot play a game. The dollar bill acceptor is not lit and coins go to the hopper but are not counted. Like I mentioned coin acceptor for A never changes from a 1 to a 0. I tried adjusting the coin acceptor and that did not change anything.
Regards,
Kirk

I changed out the coin acceptor. I removed the blocked rake in the one I put back into another machine and it works normally. I blocked the rake on the new coin acceptor and after reinstalling it I still show a 1 all the time on coin detector even when a coin is put in and goes to the hopper. I also show a 1 on coin out but I believe that is normal because I checked the hopper payout system.
Regards,
Kirk

I unplugged the optic board and all 1's changed to 0's as it should. I also checked the output optics and they are fine. I removed the main board and reseated it and powered back up no changes. I do have a fast blink lower candle but that doesn't mean much, normally wold be door open, but the door open on screen goes away when I close the main door but I still have the candle. This post is in addition to my prior.

are the coins beeing accepted (go into the hopper ) with the door closed i have one of these and have noticed that it will not accept coins (to enable game play ) with the door open and the candle lights will go out once a game is played with door closed

Lyzard

he coins go into the hopper but are not credited. You can not play a game except using the white button on the coin acceptor. I cannot play the game at all with the door closed on this slant. I remove the main board and reseated it but that didn't help.
Regards,
Kirk

i agree with putting the rake back to normal. This there any way to use one of my other IGT games, triple diamond, blazing sevens, cats and dogs to check to see if this main board is OK?

No A S+ board will not work in a PE/PE+

I know you want to use the machine and all of us would like to hear that it's working.  On your BV try this, with the two thumb screws loose in the front. hold down the front of the BV head with your right hand and push down on the Red lever with your left hand. If the rear of the transport moves up, you don't have it installed correctly. Until you have installed a couple of them they can be a little tricky to get those two ears in the right spot.

I do believe the rear moves up. I remember reading some where that they are supposed too but I am incorrect a lot not to mention brain failure with old age and too good of living when I was young. I will pull the BV and reset as per earlier post. My mother in law is staying with us and is a slot nut.
Regards,
Kirk

Yes it moved up. There are two sets of ears and 1 gear. when the BV lever is down the ears that go into the cash can are up and so is the gear. When you put the lever down the gear meshes with the cash can and the back set of ears come down and go into the cash can space. The other set of ears raise up so the BV sits level. Any time you push the BV lever down the forward set of ears is going to raise the unit. There is about an 1 1/2" between the ear sets and no space in the bottom of the BV mounting area for the forward set of ears to go except push the unit up. When I install these I do it with power off, cash can lever up, BV lever down. After installing I push the BV lever down, install cash can and lower lever, then power machine up.
Transport: SD8345411; DVB 147SS-6000-8024
BV: DVB-200
serial 908060482
Japan Cash Machine
12V   15 VA
Regards,
Kirk
Happy Memorial Day. I know I am happy to be alive after being in 2 wars. Vietnam and the original invasion of Kuwaiti

Kirk  I repeat, if the rear of transport moves up when levef is pushed down the BV is not going to work. The ears will not line up with the slots if the lever is down. When the BV is installed correctly and ready to except bills the red lever will be in the up position.  posted this link once but here it is again.   http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4226.msg8620#msg8620

Mine is not like the picture. Mine has two sets of ears of 2 ea. one set in back and another about where the green board is at. These ears move opposite each other. I strongly believe it is correct. I will check on of our other machines. The BV works when you put it in test mode.

In reply #39 you said you have a DBV 200  :103- :103-  I guess we will just have to do it your way.

What you are saying is correct. Mine was in ok I believe. When the red lever goes down the DB is fine till the very last part then the rotating base lifts of the DB lifts it up to remove it. I found a bad wire. Also when I put the cash can in the DB does not cycle but if I power it on it does and you can see the can move. I believe the optic for the cash can are not working. I know they have to line up properly. I will keep checking. Is there any way to check these?
Us Deep Sea people are always tuff to deal with, must be the salt air.
Regards,
Kirk

I believe you are correct. The DV does not show up on my tests now and we can see that it is not engaging the gear. We had no problem with the other machine we took out the PE DV and installed the Cat and Dogs DB and cash can. Then we put everything back where it was before. The Cat and Dog machine worked both times the PE machine did not cycle correctly. It does not cycle when cash can is install and when we restart it cycles and then makes a click click sound. hen the cash can is removed and unit started the DV cycles as it should put the can in and it back to click, click, click.
Regards,
Kirk

The game still is not taking coins or dollars. It does work with the small white botton. The coins go into the hopper.
Regards,
Kirk

After much help I am still in the same boat. My IGT multi-Poker machine will not accept coins or dollars. I can play one game using the whit button on the coin acceptor. The coins are going into the hopper. I believe it maybe the main board. Folks helped with this before and it still does not work. The dollar acceptor did work before the help' The game was playable until my wife removed dollars from the can. I have changed out the DBA and coin acceptor and they work in other machines. I need help.

When the rake block was removed coin go into hopper.

I have merged your new thread in to your existing thread about your machine -- there's no need to create a new thread when an existing thread you already created contains information about your problem which may be helpful to those responding.

When the rake was blocked and coins went in to the hopper, did you receive credit for those coins?  If not, were there any error messages on the screen either before or after you dropped those coins in?

There are at least one set of optics with the cash can.
Make sure the can is in otherwise it won't block the optics and the DBV won't operate.

Sometimes there is a second set of optics and occasionally a button.
Make sure the door to the cash can is closed. Use a small piece of electrical tape.

When rake blocked coin went into the coin tray with out any credits. I can play a game with door open and pushing white button on coin acceptor.
I have dollar can installed and door shut. There are two optical lights that seem to go Thur the hole in the can, There is no optic on DVB door but it is closed and locked and can is in properly.
Regards,
Kirk

here is no error message but there is a 5 showing on the screenon the right hand side top of cards.

Then you didn't block the rake properly.  We're trying to defeat the coin comparator by keeping the rake open so that the coin will drop through the comparator, through the coin-in optics (hopefully giving credit along the way), and into the hopper.  If it's still getting rejected to the coin tray, you don't have the rake blocked open.



That's just telling you that the second-previous paid game was played with a five-credit bet.

When the rake is blocked open the coins go into the hopper and when in self test mode the coins detector "B" and "C" change monumentally from 1 to 0. "A" never changes just stays the same "1".
How should I block the rake?
Regards,
Kirk

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I put a bolt under the metal rake. The bolt goes all the way across the rake. Will that due?
Regards,
Kirk

You've stated two different things happened with coins when you blocked the rake.  Are they for sure going to the hopper now?



Then it sounds like your coin-in optics might be bad.  In the self test mode, use a popsicle stick or a piece of cardboard to block the coin-in optics as you insert it in the optics enclosure.  If the "A" optic stays at 1 even when it is blocked, then your coin-in optics are malfunctioning and you may want to get a replacement set.

Sorry for the late reply we had a star trek convention the last weekend and a lot of friends in town.
Yes coins are going into the hopper.
I am not sure how to block the "A" coin in optics?
I have change out the whole coin in optics unit with my cats and dogs machine before and the coin in worked in the cats and dogs but neither worked in the multi poker machine. I can try this again if you like.
Regards,
Kirk

Below the coin comparator is the coin-in optics assembly.  Within that assembly are three emitters and receivers, A, B, and C.  Use a popsicle stick or something similar while the machine is in the self-test inputs screen to block the path between the emitter and receiver of each optic, and see if you can get the "1" to change to a "0" when the path is blocked.  Typically, an inserted coin will drop down through the optics assembly and very briefly block all three optics as it falls through, and as it does so each optic would change from "1" to "0" very briefly.  Test the optics using a popsicle stick to make sure that they register properly when they are blocked.

I tried the Popsicle stick and the coins "B" and "C changed but nothing on "A". Then I tried replacing the coin acceptor and the removed unit from the cats and dogs did not work in the poker machine and the Popsicle stick results were the same. The coin acceptor did work in the cats and dogs,
Then I change out the entire coin in unit between the poker and cats and dog machine and there were no changes unit worked on cats and dogs but not the poker machine. The Popsicle stick still does not change "A". Do I have a wiring problem or main board problem. I did use a VOM to check wiring from the coin acceptor plug in to the place it pugs in by the power supply and main board and that checked out. Now what?

If it is a removeable harness, you could swap the harness to your cats and dog machine, just to be sure the harness is fine and working in the other machine.

I will try that this afternoon. Do  the main board also cause this?
Regards,
Kirk

I changed out the wire harness from the coin acceptor and hopper to the power supply. Nothing changed except now on the cats and dogs I get a code 12.
Regards,
Kirk

I got the cats and dogs code 12 fixed but no change in the poker machine. Could it be the bill receiver and is there any way to by pass it.
Where should the main board dip switches be set?

Regards,
Kirk