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Title: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 29, 2013, 10:40:40 PM My lights do not work on reels. Go to 4.10 to check & all work. Any suggestions where to start looking?
Thanks Ford Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: cowboygames on May 29, 2013, 11:22:47 PM What chip set are you using Ford? Some don't support backlit reels
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 29, 2013, 11:26:37 PM SB000537
SG000290 VS009GXO Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: cowboygames on May 30, 2013, 12:08:13 AM Can you try 363, 597 or 598 SG's? I honestly don't remember if it was the SB or SG chips that decoded the issue :103-
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 30, 2013, 12:10:25 AM Thanks cowboy. Have other project on go tonight. I'll try tomorrow.
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 30, 2013, 09:57:07 AM Cowboy, Does a REEL TOUCH use those chips?
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: cowboygames on May 30, 2013, 11:59:55 AM Reel touch is where this subject first came up a while back. Been thinking about it some and you might see what other SB chips are available for your title
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 30, 2013, 12:04:19 PM Talked to a guy & he's running the same chips as me & his lights work.
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: cowboygames on May 30, 2013, 12:37:01 PM Are your chips original IGT? Where they work in test mode you may have a bad chip or even an IO card issue causing the problem
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 30, 2013, 12:41:23 PM Are your chips original IGT? Where they work in test mode you may have a bad chip or even an IO card issue causing the problem Original chips, Switched IO card on side of MPUWhen get time maybe switch control behind reels. What's strange is they work in test Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: cowboygames on May 30, 2013, 01:04:41 PM That's what baffles me also. Maybe the cable between the back light control and IO card? MPU?
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 30, 2013, 11:32:21 PM Checked all wires, swapped controller & wires. Went as far as other reels. No go
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: lindam1 on May 31, 2013, 12:01:36 AM Ford,
What game is this? Lin Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 31, 2013, 12:07:33 AM Reel touch ,5 reel, Tobasco
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 31, 2013, 12:30:23 AM Here's a shot. Lights work in test but not in game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0eqW_Cnxbo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0eqW_Cnxbo&feature=youtu.be) Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: lindam1 on May 31, 2013, 12:31:21 AM Ford,
My Tabasco is: SB000511 SG000239 Ver. 0009GXO Lin Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 31, 2013, 12:35:29 AM Another guy is running the same as me & his works. Maybe I should look into trying chips like you have.
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: lindam1 on May 31, 2013, 12:38:06 AM If you want I'll pull them tomorrow
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 31, 2013, 12:46:54 AM Thanks
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on May 31, 2013, 01:05:00 AM Is your game 60 credit?
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on June 01, 2013, 11:54:35 AM Tried different chips, swapped about everything out. All I can think of is put another MPU & motherboard in. :208- :279-
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: CVslots on June 02, 2013, 03:54:19 AM Didn't we have this awhile back? Seems like it was an SG or Version chip?
Sorry for the late post. I know this has been a hot topic for the last couple days, but something came to me all of a sudden! Throw in some 363s and a GX1 and see what happens....then we can start eliminating until we find the "culprit".... Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on June 02, 2013, 09:10:22 PM Tried 363's. Keep getting ram error over & over. Tried GX1 & keep getting Comm error. They do not work W/reel touch.
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: cowboygames on June 02, 2013, 09:16:26 PM A multidenom version chip shouldn't be a problem on a reel touch game. I don't have a Tabasco, but I should be able to see what's on my Denver Duck and Bucks Ahoy later tonight. They are both multidenom
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on June 02, 2013, 09:29:21 PM I don't think it's the chips. I'm down to back board (mother board) The reels plug into. I have a 504 board. I have an enhanced MPU & mother board I got from Glenn which I'm going to try this week.
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on June 04, 2013, 08:41:31 PM WEEEEELL, It's not the motherboard & MPU. Put new enhanced motherboard & MPU in. Same thing. Almost didn't have to worry about it. Came over from work, feed Sally & went @ it. Hurrying put it on table to get inside to work on. Started jacking up & hear a crunch. Almost had a flat top. With topper & candle I only had 1 to 2 inches to roof. It hit but no damage.
Title: Re: Back lite problem WORKING !!!!!! Post by: FORDSBS on June 04, 2013, 09:11:35 PM Got it working. swapped power supply. Lights work. Only problem 2 stay on.
Thanks Lindam1,Cowboy, Roz & Coors. Extra thanks to Lindam1 for getting me batteries FAST so I could get my Enhanced board up & running. Ford PS Have to check bulbs now. Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: cowboygames on June 04, 2013, 09:18:09 PM Power supply doesn't explain why they worked in test mode though does it? :103-
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on June 04, 2013, 09:27:43 PM I never thought it was power supply. I swapped EVERYTHING else & harness out several times. Took note supply was warmer than normal so I swapped.
P>S> 2 lights staying on fixed, wrong bulbs Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: cowboygames on June 04, 2013, 09:52:39 PM Good job getting it fixed! :259-
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on June 04, 2013, 11:45:00 PM Now all I need is a nice set of reel strips.
Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: CVslots on June 05, 2013, 03:18:59 AM That's one for the notebook...but one has to ask:
What occurs differently during test mode than in regular game play? Voltage/Power? Path? Netplex devices not in equation in test mode? C'mon guys, there has to be a logical reason for this. We're soooo close!!! We know a failing power supply will give wacky errors, so what comes to mind? Keep in mind, I am not knowledgable on power, electricity, or electronics, (basically anything to do with how stuff that plugs in works), but something doesn't quite add up here. Is it the power supply had one foot in the grave and couldn't power the backlit reels during game play, but could do so during test mode when nothing else was being powered? Edit: Just for kicks, can we try that power supply in another machine???? If you don't want to Ford, send it my way.... Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: FORDSBS on June 05, 2013, 09:24:22 AM First thing was power supply got hot. When I got it working when in test mode the lights were a lot brighter with new supply than they were with old power supply. As video I posted you can see they would light up but they were not that bright.
Answer is supply was on last leg just would not roll over & die. I hope this will help someone in the future. I know I learned from this. Title: Re: Back lite problem Post by: lindam1 on June 05, 2013, 10:20:47 AM I hope what you've learned (As I have) that Reel Touch Machine can be a real treat to work on, just wait til you have an issue with the top box P/C. Fun....Fun....Fun!
Have a great day, Ford |