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Title: S+ Battery Question
Post by: erbs on July 11, 2013, 04:20:57 PM
Would there be any problem using these for an S+ being they are 2/3 AA and 1.65ah? I usually replace with a 1/2 AA but for the price I hope they would work.                                                                       

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Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: proten on July 11, 2013, 05:05:58 PM
Be careful as some of those battery's have a date of Dec. 07


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: Mr. Dinoman on July 12, 2013, 01:16:14 PM
Also he listed them as NEW....I never seen a NEW battery with solder on the ends of the wire and mounting tape attached... :103-


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: ROCKET on July 12, 2013, 01:32:04 PM
THEY ARE NEW BATTERIES NEVER USED . THATS A PLASTIC COVER OVER THE WIRE ENDS NOT SOLDER IF REFERING TO EBAY AUCTION ?
THE DATE I READ IS NOV-OF 2011 WHICH IS 2 YEARS OLD ALREADY .

 EVEN WHEN I BUY BATTERIES IN QUANTITY ONLINE FROM CANADA OR CHINA OR ISREAL THEY SLIP IN A FEW
THAT ARE 3 TO 4 YRS OLD WHEN YOU BUY 100 OR MORE AT ONCE  .
 BUT THE PRICE ARE DIRT CHEAP WHEN BUYING QUANTITY- FROM ANYONE .
SINCE FINDING A LOCAL ALL BATTERY STORE THE OWNER WILL SPECIAL ORDER ANY BATTERY I NEED AND IF NEEDED A STEEL LEG TO FIT INTO A BOARD LIKE A PIN ? HE WILL WELD ONE ON THE END OF BATTERY FOR ME FOR FREE .

AS YOU KNOW YOU NEVER SOLDER THE END OF ANY BATTERY AS IT MAY EXPLODE . OF COURSE I HAVE DONE IT ETC WHEN IN A PINCH -BUT ITS NOT RECOMMENDED -THEY HAVE A LITTLE SPOT WELDER JIG THAT HOLDS BATTERY WITH WELDERS MASK ON THEY ZAP THE END YOU WANT ON BATTERY . BUT THOSE WILL FIT THE APPLICATION YOU WANT . THE OTHER THING WE DID MANY YEARS BACK ON THE FORUM WAS PUT IN NICK CAD RECHARGEABLE BATTERIES & PUT A BAREREL PLUG LEAD TO THEM IN HOLDER LIKE A CORDLESS PHONE WITH TRANSFORMER HOOKED TO 110 VOLTS SO IF GAME WAS NOT PLAYED IN MONTHS OR A YEAR THE BATTERY ALWAYS HAD LIFE IN IT . AS LONG AS YOU GET THE CHARGER THAT TURNS OFF AFTER BATTERY HITS DESIRED VOLTAGE OR YOU WILL COOK THE BATTERY .


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: Mr. Dinoman on July 12, 2013, 01:40:04 PM
Close-up of the ends of the wires sure looks like freshly unsolderd from a board with solder blobs at the ends...I would not buy these...also every battery I have ever purchased has straight leads not curved as if they were just pulled from a board...


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: ROCKET on July 12, 2013, 02:14:00 PM
Close-up of the ends of the wires sure looks like freshly unsolderd from a board with solder blobs at the ends...I would not buy these...also every battery I have ever purchased has straight leads not curved as if they were just pulled from a board...

MANY BATTERY SUPPLIERS PUT A DAB OF SOLDER ON THE END OF A LEAD . THOSE DEFINETLY HAVE A PLASTIC PIECE OVER THE ENDS OF THE LEADS .

I WOULD NOT PURCHASE THEM ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE 2 YRS OLD TO START AND IF YOU DO A GOOGLE SEARCH YOU WILL FIND THE SAME BATTERY FOR 3.99 EACH PLUS SHIPPING
MODIFIED MY CORRECTION FOR TEN BATTERIES STILL OVERPRICED FOR OLD STOCK BATTERIES  

25.00 FOR 4 BATTERIES IS NO BARGAIN -- IF BRAND NEW OR NOT

EBAY IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE TO BUY BATTERIES -


AS I SAID I BUY FROM CANADA DIRECT OR CHINA OR ISREAL DIRECT IN QUANTITY . YOU WAIT FOR THEM BUT YOU GET A BRAND NEW BATTERY . BUT AS I MENTIONED AT TIMES IN ORDERS OF 100 OR MORE THEY SLIP IN A FEW THAT ARE A FEW YRS OLD .
BUT QUANTITY PRICE CAN BE DOWN TO AS LOW AS 1.90 EACH PLUS SHIPPING WHICH IS DIRT MONEY



Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: proten on July 12, 2013, 02:15:47 PM
If you zoom in on the picture of ten battery's, you
will see the date of Dec. 07 on the side.


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: ROCKET on July 12, 2013, 02:22:18 PM
If you zoom in on the picture of ten battery's, you
will see the date of Dec. 07 on the side.
THE PICTURE OF ALL OF THEM ""YES" I SEE 07 ON THE SIDE OF ONE BATTERY THE REST I SEE NOV -11 IN ANY CASE THEY ARE 6 YRS OLD ON ONE -2 YEARS OLD ON THE OTHERS -AS FAR AS THE CURVE -I DONT WANT TO SOUND NASTY -THEN BUY STRAIGHT LEED BATTERIES THEN ONLY --BATTERIES COME IN ALL CONFIGURATIONS AND HAVE SEEN THEM PERSONALLY BUILT IN A BATTERY STORE FOR A SPECIFIC USE -BUY STACKING BUTTON BATTERIES WELDING THEM TOGETHER ETC WITH CURVED LEADS OR STRAIGHT LEADS . -

-BUT I ALREADY SAID I WOULD NOT BUY THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE OVER PRICED ..


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: ROCKET on July 12, 2013, 03:13:38 PM
THE TWO PICTURES OF BATTERIES I POSTED HERE
ONE IS A--- 1/2 AA BATTERY MADE IN 2012 MY COST 1.90 EACH WITH NO LEADS OFF IT  3.6 VOLTS
I HAVE MAN AT BATTERY STORE WELD ON WHATEVER LEAD I WANT FREE .

SECOND OPTION IS MOST POPULAR IS GET RID OF SOLDERING ONCE AND FOR ALL
BUY THE BUTTON BATTERY REPLACEMENT HOLDER THAT HOLDS A PANASONIC OR OTHER BRAND 2032 BATTERY
I PAY .08 CENTS EACH FOR THE BATTERY FROM CHINA MADE BY PANASONIC .
YES 8 CENTS .. THE HOLDER YOU SOLDER IN ONCE .
IN THE OLD HOLES ON BOARD - JUST POP OUT OLD BATTERY POP IN NEW BATTERY ..
PLASTIC HOLDER FOR BUTTON BATTERY AGAIN QUANTITY IS KEY SINGLE I THINK 2.99 I CANT REMEMBER MY QUANTITY DISCOUNT BUT CLOSE TO 1.25 FREE SHIPPING FROM CHINA ON ALL
QUANTITY IS KEY FOR PRICING PLUS OVER 40 DAY WAITING TIME FOR DELIVERY .


SAME 2032 BATTERY USED IN CAR REMOTE AT WALL MART OR CVS PHARMACY TWO 2032 BATTERIES RUN 5.99-8.99


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: ROCKET on July 12, 2013, 03:37:11 PM
THESE ARE OTHER DESIGNS OF 3.6 VOLT DC BATTERIES FOR GAMING /ARCADE EQUIPMENT
TOP BATTERY of bottom picture modified as to what picture  HAS CUSTOM STEEL LEADS SPOT WELDED ON BATTERY FROM STORE OWNER-PER MY REQUEST  
TO FIT IN PRE-EXISTING HOLES ON BOARD -BECAUSE THE POKER BOARD I USE IT ON HAS A TRANSISTOR
THAT RUNS UNDER THE BATTERY -WONDERFULL DESIGN (BEING SARCASTIC) BY "MICRO GAMING" LATE 1980'S
 THE IDIOT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED WHO DESIGNED THE BATT PLACEMENT -- SO THE LONG LEADS EXTEND IT ABOVE THE TRANSISTOR AFTER ITS SOLDERED IN PLACE .
GREEN BATTERY IS COMMON GAMING BOARD BATTERY WITH STEEL LEADS ON EACH END

MY POINT IS ALWAYS CHECK YEAR OF MANUFACTURE WHEN BUYING ON EBAY . THEY SAY NEW THEY VERY WELL MAY BE NEW
JUST NEW IN 2007 OR 2011 ETC
 


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: erbs on July 12, 2013, 11:25:41 PM
Thanks for all the info.I will not buy these especially after reading in his description AS IS. That tells me they are old batteries and some may be no good.
  I had thought of using the coin battery and holder that I use in the S-2000s but they are 3v. :103- So these will work even tho they are not 3.6v ?  Thanks Again Ed :244-


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: ROCKET on July 13, 2013, 09:57:05 AM
Thanks for all the info.I will not buy these especially after reading in his description AS IS. That tells me they are old batteries and some may be no good.
  I had thought of using the coin battery and holder that I use in the S-2000s but they are 3v. :103- So these will work even tho they are not 3.6v ?  Thanks Again Ed :244-
I NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE BUTTON BATTERY HOLDER AS A STD REPLACEMENT ON
>>>>ANY OF  BOARDS IGT MADE OR ANY ARCADE TYPE GAME -THE 2032 OR 2016  BUTTON BATTERY AS A REPLACEMENT OF THE 1/2 AA AT 3.6 VOLT THAT IS SOLDERED IN PLACE --- BECAUSE MOST NEW BUTTON BATTERIES TEST IN AT 3.6  VOLTS OR JUST BELOW I FOUND IN MOST OF MY TESTING IF YOU HAVE 3 VOLTS YOU WONT LOOSE MEMORY .
AS I SAID ONCE I SAW THE BATTERIES IN THIS BATTERY STORE ONLY
IT MADE THE LIGHT BULB TURN ON !!!!!AS TO WHAT HAS BEEN ALREADY DONE BY BATTERY MANFACTURES
IF YOU LOOK AT 90% OF YOUR CHERRY MASTER BOARDS OR ARCADE BOARDS THEY WENT TO THE BUTTON BATTERY BACK AROUND 2006 AS A REPLACEMENT OTHERS STILL USE A SOLDERED ON 3.6 VOLT DC OF SOME DESIGN AS I POSTED PICTURES OF . BUT THE BEST DEAL IS THE BUTTON BATTERY PLASTIC HOLDER SOLDER.----

 ONCE ITS SOLDERED IN AND ITS POP OUT THE OLD POP IN THE NEW -OR USE THE METHOD I DESCRIBED EARLY IN THIS POST USE A BATTERY THATS RECHARGABLE AND A BARREL PLUG TRANSFORMER PLUGGED INTO A AC OUTLET THAT TURNS >>OFF<< WHEN BATTERY IS CHARGED . THAT WAY IF MACHINE GOES LONG LENGTHS OF TIME WITHOUT USE THE BATTERY IS ALWAYS UP .
Rocket

 


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: knagl on July 13, 2013, 08:24:25 PM
I had thought of using the coin battery and holder that I use in the S-2000s

They also make 1/2 AA sized battery holders that work nicely for the S+ boards -- check out this thread:

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=119.msg517#msg517 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=119.msg517#msg517)

The 108C retaining clip cover mentioned in that thread can be found here (http://www.newark.com/keystone/108c/battery-holder-1-2aa-pcb/dp/50F4686?Ntt=108C+cover).

Also, here's a link to a 3.6v 1/2 AA battery on their site: http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=87F6402 .  I'm sure there are other sources for those batteries, however.




Edited to add: It looks like this part (http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=57R3956), which is also a few cents cheaper, has the correct mounting tabs for a S+ board, rather than having to bend the tabs on the one linked to in the above mentioned thread.  The down side of that one is that the retaining cover has to be ordered in a quantity of 100, which is useless for a home slot owner.


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: erbs on July 14, 2013, 01:10:39 AM
Thanks for all the info. I like the idea of the holder and cover.


Title: Re: S+ Battery Question
Post by: ROCKET on July 14, 2013, 08:18:20 PM
 :244- :244- :244- :244- :244- :244- :244-
JUST A FOLLOW UP ERBS,
HERE IS THE SAME BATTERY I POSTED IN MY PICTURES YESTERDAY  "XENO"  WITH ENDS ON IT .
JUST TO LET YOU SEE HOW THEY COME IN DIFF STYLES WITH AND WITHOUT LEADS ETC

AS I MENTIONED WHEN I BUY QUANTITY OF THE BUTTON BATTERY
 IT COST ME .08 CENTS EACH FOR "REAL" PANOSONIC 2032 BATTERIES OR 2016 BUTTON BATTERIES .THOSE BUTTON BATTERIES SAY 3.VOLT BUT TEST IN MOST CASES 3.6 3.7 -3.4 ETC ETC


FORUM MODERATOR >>KNAGL <<<WAS KIND ENOUGH TO DROP A LINK IN FOR THE HOLDER OF THE OLD STYLE 3.6 VOLT AND HOLDER ETC

I HAVE USED THE BUTTON OR PANCAKE PLASTIC REPLACEMENT WHENEVER I NEEDED ON EVERY "IGT" BOARD I HAVE WORKED ON FROM S SERIES --S+ -- S-2000- "I" GAMES -PE -POKERS -BALLY SLOT BOARDS - MISC MODEL POKER BOARDS ETC MISC ARCADE GAME BOARDS AND ALL CHERRY MASTER BOARDS . AND EVEN OLD OLD GRAYHOUND BOARDS .

AS LONG AS VOLTAGE I FOUND DOES NOT DIP BELOW 3.00 VOLTS DC

OR THERE WILL BE A FIGHT ON THIS???? BUT I FOUND MOST BOARDS LOSE MEMORY AROUND 2.61 TO 2.81 VOLTS . OR A SIGNAL ON SCREEN OF VIDEO SLOT OR GAME WITH COME ON AND SAY LOW BATTERY

BOTTOM LINE IS YOU SOLDER IN HOLDER ONCE AND FOR .08 CENTS A BATTERY YOU CAN REPLACE ONE EACH MONTH FOR GIGGLES AND LAUGHS
AS I MENTIONED WHEN ORDERING OVERSEAS YOU WAIT 40 TO 60 DAYS FOR DELIVERY .


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