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I just purchased my first video slot machine from a seller on eBay over the weekend (MONSTER MANSION by IGT).  It finally arrived today.  I was so excited and could hardly wait to get it out of the crate.  When I turned it on, the screen showed "CALL ATTENDANT".  I opened the door, turned the key on the side and went through all of the prompts that it told me to.  I finally ended up with a repeating error that wouldn't clear:  EEPROM CRC FAILURE.  I've tried everything.  I live in Georgia and am not aware of any repair people in this area.   
The seller swears it was working fine when it left his house.  What does this error sound like?  Something that could've happened during shipment?  I've been Googling and read about the Clear chip that could possibly be used to clear everything.  I don't have one of those.  Can someone help me?
Is there something else I can try?

Thanks very much!

Here is a photo of the board:

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When you turned the key, did you get a prompt to hold down the test button on the MPU for 2-3 seconds?

Jason

Yes, and I did that.

With the machine off, check the eproms and SIMMs and make sure they are all seated correctly. Also check your plugs and other connections. These things sometimes come loose during transit. Hope thats all it is.

 Dan (tacman)

If it said EEPROM and not EPROM, check the 8 pin EEPROM on the backplane (board the MPU tray plugs into).  It may have came loose in shipping.

Could it be his CMOS battery is low? I find it hard to believe a chip could work it's way out of a socket during shipping

A board...possible, but a chip no way.  Unless the truck was driven off of a cliff.

Jason

OK....a little progress....I found a card on the board that wasn't seated all the way.  I pushed it in completely and now I no longer get the RAM and EEPROM errors.  However, I have yet another problem...
I cannot get the touch screen to calibrate correctly.
I can get to the screen where it says to touch the white dot until you hear a beep.  I touch the dot, but never hear a beep.  Finally, it will go to the next screen, which is the calibration test screen.  When I touch the screen and move my finger around, the green lines that it draws are about 3 inches northeast of where I'm actually touching.
Any idea what could be causing this?...and how to correct it?

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Does your screen have a gouge / scratch in it? If not then power the machine off and reseat the monitor. Clean it and recalibrate it to see if it acts any better.

If the screen has a scratch in it then it's throwing it off.

This machine arrived at about 11:00 this morning.  I have spent every minute on it today...just trying to get it to work.  Didn't even eat lunch!  I am slowly making progress.  I found one of the small wires that goes around the touch screen, underneath the tape, was broken.  Soldered it back together.  That fixed the touch screen issue.  I was able to calibrate it correctly.   NOW, I'm getting this screen when the machine comes on.  It wants the Accounting Denomination set.  I've gone into the Accounting menu and tried everything.  Anyone familiar with this?   I feel like I've come so far today with this machine....surely this will be an easy fix. 

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Looks like you need to press the test switch on the CPU and set the options. You'll need someone with better experience doing this.

Uh oh.  You're colors look screwed up too.  Take a look at this thread to get a look at mine that I recently set up.

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=25067.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=25067.0)

You might want to make sure that your monitor is connected properly.  Perhaps your colors are just out of adjustment on the monitor itself.  The touchscreen controller board is also mounted on the monitor.  You might want to take the monitor out of the machine and take a picture of it if the situation does not improve.  Hopefully the monitor wasn't damaged during shipping.

Thanks,
Jason

Jason

Just saw your message about the touch screen...disregard my comments about it above.  


Setting denomination will require a keychip.  I use a 40 Keychip on mine to accomplish this.

Jason

Where do I get a 40 Keychip ASAP?

Contact any of the vendors on the site.  I'd check with Buzz or blueridgeslots (Jim).

Jason

I would say there is a 99% chance your going to need a clear/key chip. But try this, press the test button on the MPU, touch Set up, touch Machine options, now if you see "denom set up " (words to that effect ) touch the denom tab. Machine may now let you set the accounting denom or it may tell you that you  need to be in key menu.  If it will let you set it. set it to a penny, press save, close the door and see if it will work.

We can go back at a later date after you get your hands on a clear/key chip and set the multi denom.  If the fellow that sold you the machine won't send you a Key 22 send me a PM with your address and I'll send you one.

Looking at the Base and Game numbers on the eproms, it looks like you have a 25 line multi denom game set.

Thanks so much!  I just tried this and to no avail.  It looks like I definitely need the key chip.
I checked with the guy I bought it from and he doesn't have one.   I'll send you a PM now.

inkyspal   Swrew that guy, send me your address now and I will get my Son to drop it off at the Post Pffice tomorrow.  The guy doesn't even know or care how he puts labels on eproms. Why the F*** would you put one on upside down. And too lazy to put the complete number on the eprom.   ( Hope he's a member here. )

Holy crap, I was right? I guess even a blind squirrel gets a nut every now and then.

 Dan (tacman)

Dan  Did you ever think about a career change ?/ Seems like your pretty good at figuring things out.

A huge THANKS to everyone who took the time to respond to my desperate post today!  What a day it has been working on this thing!  Once I get the key card (thanks Buzz), I'll post a follow up. 

No way! I make too much begging at the highway exits, and it's all tax free!

Dan (tacman)

Glad you fixed the issues. Hope you are up and running after getting the Key chip.

I received the Key Chip from Buzz today.  (Thanks again!)   :131-
I was able to go through all of the steps and FINALLY....my Monster Mansion is working.  I've been playing it now for almost an hour. 
I only have one remaining problem....hoping this isn't due to damage during shipment...
My monitor colors are off.  I have no red or blue...what is supposed to be red is purple.  See photo below.
Was there something in the Key Card settings menu regarding color adjustments that perhaps I missed?...or is there a place to adjust color on the monitor itself?  (It is a Ceronix 17" monitor (not LCD)).   

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I would start with the simple..... Check the socket on the CRT to make sure the board (plug) didn't come loose in transit

Just checked...seems good.

 Push on the glass on the right and left side wiggle it up and down to see is the color comes back . Shut off the power and pull out the monitor  i think there are two screws that hold it in place ( can't remember ) . Try reseating the monitor by pulling it out then push it back in . or pushing it up or down or right or left corrects it then maybe it is just a loose or bad connection . i had a 17" CRT that did the same thing it would work for a while then go back to the greenie color you posted . My monitor died about 6 months later  I am now in the process of trying to get the bottom board rebuilt  . P.B.

Nickie  Of course the seller is going to say the color was perfect when the machine was shipped. You didn't miss anything in key menu, there are no color adjustments on that monitor.

You can try pulling the monitor out about 4 inches and shove it back in, it may have a bad connection. You can also pull the monitor all the way out ( Caution moniter weighs close to 50 pounds )and you will see a green board and some wires plugged onto the back on the picture tube neck. Maybe a bad connection, just pull straight out on it. Attached is a couple of pictures of that board, the bottom piic. I drew a red line around three small white boards, they are the color boards that are soldered to the green board. Take a look at the solder joints and see if they look good.

I have a bunch of parts for 19" Cernoix but I don't know if they will work on a 17" CRT.

Kevin  I see you beat me to it, but screw it I typed it I'm gonna post it.  If you send your chassis to Ceronix, they will rebuild it for a flat fee of $45 plus shipping.  If a 19" chassis will work I've got about 40 of them and I know they can't all be BAD. For what it's worth, at the Ceronix factory they do not turn the power off to a machine when removing a monitor. I saw them remove a monitor from a machine that was on and ask them about it. said they never have turned the power off. By the way the hot monitor they pulled out, they sold it to me. ( 19" LCD )

Jason  Note I sent inkyspal a Key 22 and not a Key 040.

Nickie  I'm not sure about this but it may be possible a CGF or PXL simm may throw the color off. It's easy enough to try. Pull the main board back out ( you won't have to do a clear or key again ) See a smaller green board mount above the main board, that's the MM II sound board, you need to remove it, it may have a couple of screws holding it in. With the screws removed pull up on the sound board. Below the sound board is the CGF simm, ( it's a little larger than the PXL simms ) it has a metal ear on each side just move the ears outward and the simm will come loose. Now take a pencil eraser and clean all the contacts both sides. Now there are two PXL simms right next to where you installed the Key chip, clean those contacts also. ( It's no big deal which socket or what order you put the PXL simms back in.)

Buzz,

Just tried everything you suggested.  Took the monitor out, examined the color boards...everything looks fine.  All connections seem solid.   Took out the CGF and PXL cards and cleaned the connections.  No luck...Still just a purplish-green color on everything.  Beginning to think I'm not going to be lucky enough to fix this problem.  
Called Ceronix.  I will probably mail them the chassis tomorrow and let them rebuild it.
Thanks again for your help.

not to highjack thread --just a "tip" .its quite common for a chip to loosen up in "any enviroment" its from heat expansion rates of the two products joined -

I have 1000 plus poker boards stored in shelves -when i put one away  knowing it works.

 i know all chips are seated tight . when 6 months later or even a week later after a high heat week -have pulled a board to install in a machine to find a chip has almost fallen out . then to proceed with pressing the rest of chips back in .
Its a good practice to check your chips on any game board periodically -from power offs to power on -the heat built up from cold to hot daily if used can actually squeeze the chip out of its socket .
many will think I am full of shit .. but try your own boards I guaranty you will find a chip that can be pressed in more . shipping does not help constant vibrations in a trailer truck or box truck can cause just about anything to happen .   

Hey guys.
Well, I gotta come back to this old thread to update my situation.  At the bottom of Page 1 of this thread, back on 8/19, I posted some photos of my Monster Mansion game colors...showing how everything is in a greenish gray tone....no yellows or reds or blues.
Anyway, I've been playing it like this until I saved up my pennies enough to buy a new LCD.   So, last week, I ordered my new LCD from Ceronix and it arrived today.  I could hardly open the box fast enough!!!  Finally, for the first time I would be able to see my monsters in their appropriate colors!!   No such luck.  After getting the new LCD installed, I STILL HAVE THE COLOR PROBLEM!   I was 100% convinced that the issue was within the monitor.....now, it obviously isn't.   Any ideas?
Here's a pic of my new LCD, just installed.....with the same dull colors.  UGH!   So disappointed!   :60-

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Dang!  Well, you will love that LCD once it gets figured out.  So to rule out a problem with your MM chipset, do you have another game that you can throw onto your board?  If another game displays normal color, the root cause can be narrowed down to your MM set. 

I wonder if there is an issue with the receiving socket that your monitor plugs into?  Perhaps a motherboard or MPU?  Let's see what other feedback comes in.  Switching games is what I would suggest next if possible.

Jason

Jason, what is an MM set? The software set?

Hey, Jason.   Well, the Monster Mansion set of software that I'm using is a new set that I ordered from Jim at BlueRidge Slots a few weeks ago.  (It's the multi-denom set....my first set was single denom)...anyway, when I changed it out, the color issue remained the same.  Doesn't seem to be related to the chipset.  
I definitely thought about the receiving plug that the monitor pushes in to.  I've checked all of the wires that go into it, and best I can tell, they all seem to be secure.  I've traced the wires to the other end where they go into the little white plug that goes into the board on the back of the machine.  Again, best I can tell, they seem to be ok.  I wonder if switching out that harness would help?  Not sure where I would find one, though...unless someone on here happens to have one I can buy.   I can't believe I just paid $500 for the new monitor and I'm still looking at the same drab!  I know I'll really be glad I invested in it if this ever gets fixed.

Monster Mansion software set

Awww! I thought I was out of the loop on some new lingo!  :25- :25-

If the set had a problem, it would fail the security checksum set.  My money is on the harness that connects the monitor to the game, one of the color pins is not making contact.

The next step would be to swap out your MPU board.  That should hopefully fix your color problem.

Do know where I can find a replacement harness?  I'd like to try changing this out as my next step.

Looks like your blue is gone or very low. Your CRT only uses red, blue and green to make all colors. I'm not familiar with IGT tube adjustments but I would think there's either an electronic or mechanism all way to adjust them. More than likely electronic based on the age.

This is a new LCD monitor.

Did you try any other game software besides MM? If so, are you still getting bad color? I would check to see if your pins in the cabinet socket correspond to the pins in your monitor harness plug, maybe there's one missing or bent. You could also check the harness from the cabinet plug to the backplane, maybe a pulled pin or broken wire? If everything looks good with the wiring, I would try overdriving the blue color on your monitor to see if you get a difference, you already have it hooked up. There are adjustment buttons on top behind the screen. It may be a little difficult to get to if its a slide-in model.

Dan (tacman)

Nickie  This is just a shot in the dark, but here lately I've been having trouble with the tape the Gaming Commissions put over the eproms and simms. Sometimes that tape gets down in the socket the PXL simms installs in. Just remove the MPU and remove the two PXL simms and check for any tape in the socket. Won't hurt if while you have the simms out if you will use some of your finger nail polish remover and clean those two simm sockets. Just a couple of passes with that little brush or your Husbands tooth brush will clean them good enough.

Here's the deal I'll make you today. I have a 3902 board I just removed the software from today ( softwear is being mailed tomorrow ) so I  know it's a good board with a new battery. I'll send you this board, if it fixes your problem you owe me $100 if no change in the machine send the board back to me and were even.  I think you can find these same boards on ebay for around $75 but are they any good ??   It's up to you. ( I still have your address )

Dan  Did you know Ceronix makes a remote control to adjust their LCD monitors with it still in the machine ? You do have to open the main door to use it, but if you made a small hole in the bezel it would work with the door closed. I thing they get around  15 bucks for them. 

Yeah, I just upgraded 3 of my Igames with refurbed Ceronix 2212's from Patriot Gaming. My problem is I can't find anyway to adjust the vertical screen height. part of the bet/line/spin screen buttons are halfway below the bezel.

 Dan (tacman)

Dan  Using the remote control press menu, press Mute, press Auto Adjust (3) times,  now mute button  moves the screen up and Brightens button moves screen down.

Dan, if you want to use a remote I have a new one on my desk you can try

My bad, I'd replied from page 1 and didn't see page 2.

I have both 19 pin and 25 pin harnesses and you are welcome to borrow one to try as well as a spare CPU if you like, need to know if you have 19 or 25 pin harness. Look on your old CRT and see if adjustments were push button on screen (Digital) or small wheel type to adjust (Analog)

I appreciate you doing business with me and am glad to help you out since you have had trouble from the day you bought this machine

Buzz,
Thanks so much for the reply.   Just took the MPU out and inspected the PXL Simms for tape.  I did see some tape residue around the edges, but none down in the sockets.  Used the old man's toothbrush (lol) & brushed them out good.   Did another inspection of every card and chip on the board to check for loose connections.  Put the board back in and nothing has changed.    Buzz, you have made me an offer I can't refuse with the 3902 board.  I will take the board and will HAPPILY pay you the $100 + a tip!   What do you think about replacing the harness that the monitor plugs in to?    Do you have one if those?

Thanks again...you've been so nice to help me with this crazy machine.  One day it will finally be right...that's what I keep telling myself anyway!  

Thanks, Jim, hope you're feeling better. Thats why I called, these LCD's. No Vertical adjustment in the menu, so all I can do is move it up a little to get access to the screen buttons. Was hoping someone knew a trick for it. Ceronix has so far not returned my call.

Dan (tacman)

Sorry to get off topic for the original problem.

Jim,  you've been great to do business with.  I am loving all of the software that I've purchased from you.
My harness is a 19 pin.   The old CRT monitor that I just replaced had the 5 little adjustment dials on the top.  
Buzz is supposed to send me a  MPU board tomorrow to try.   Not sure if he has a harness or not...waiting on him to reply.  If he doesn't, I'd really appreciate trying one of yours.   The problem has gotta be one if these two things, right?!

Since the problem is identical to the CRT and LCD, I would venture to guess the problem is not the monitors or their harnesses. If the game plays fine and the only issue is the loss of color, then I would check connections, plugs and wire harnesses from the cabinet socket and even the MPU plugs to see if any pins are bent or missing going into the backplane. I would think that if you attempted to overdrive the blue in the monitor and got no change, then the signal for that color is getting interrupted somewhere.

Dan (tacman)
Not a Tech

Yes, I tried manually adjusting the blue on the monitor.  (My hand barely squeezes in that little space just enough to reach the buttons).   None of my adjustments corrected the problem.   

I agree, I scraped the s**t out of my knuckles trying to get my ham hands in to press those buttons. OK, so, no change shows signal interrupt for blue. I'm assuming bent/missing pins or broken wires. Does anyone know if there are video driver components on the MPU or backplane that might be the culprit?

Dan (tacman)

From my experience in the computer industry, these kinds of color anomalies are almost always a problem with the cabling. All these modern gaming LCD monitors are for the most part VGA monitors, which means the mpu circuitry contains the video display hardware with a DAC.  Normally you rarely ever get a missing line going between the video circuitry and the DAC other than perhaps broken traces.

There are a couple of capacitors and resistors that the video (RGBHV) signals flow through from the MPU board to the monitor connector (J5) on the motherboard.  If one of them were bad it could cause you to lose a color signal.  Unless one of them was physically damaged I'd lean more towards the MPU board where all the video signals are generated.

Here's a wiring diagram for the harness that goes from the motherboard to the monitor.  If you have a multimeter you can ohm your harness out.  In this case since you're missing the blue color, check pin 3 on each end for continuity.

Thank you!   I will check this out tomorrow.  I appreciate this diagram!

Just to be perfectly clear, when you changed from the single denom Monster Mansion chipset to the multi-denom, did you change out the graphics chips (or SIMMs), or just the base chips?  If you've never changed out the pixel/graphics chips or SIMMs, I'd suggest trying an entirely different game in there if you have one for troubleshooting purposes.

I changed all of the software chips - base chips and Simms., and have tried an entirely different game set in the machine and the colors are unaffected.   I am pretty positive that this isn't a software issue. 

inkyspal  OK I mailed the MPU today and they said you will have it Friday ( flat rate box )  Here's what I did, I left a 3,5,10 Play Action Gaming Poker set of software on the board complete with sound simm. When you get the board put your old sound board on it with the Poker sound simm, the Poker game only has one PXL simm and you can put it in any of the three sockets ( I removed it from the socket because of the Post Office and how they destroy most things )  install your Key 22 and do a clear and key.After you install the base chip and it boots up you MUST set the accounting denom. a penny or a nickel it doesn't make any difference. I wouldn't worry about any of the other settings because after a color check I can see MM going into the machine. Unless you want to play Poker for a while then you may wish to set the limits and sound after you get out of key menu.

 GOOD LUCK  I'll PM you a west coast phone number and tracking number

Now we have some important stuff to take care of, If that's a picture of you in your profile were going to have to have a contest of our members trying to guess what in the world do you have hanging around your neck ??  Don't give the ans. away too soon.

Wow....Buzz must have just seen the profile pic!!!! Free software sets for everyone!!!! Just PM Buzz for your set!!!!

Gettin me a new profile pic.....  :72-

-Styx

I haven't received my set yet Buzz.  It was supposed to be here today.  Don't you remember our conversation the other day?  :p

Jason

Jason  It's like I told you " Your to flat chested to get anything for free from me "  Besides Nickie never said a word about MINTY

Look at it from my point of view, if I sent you a eprom and the label was a little crooked you'd piss all over your self. Trust me I'm helping your blood pressure by not sending anything.

I talked to this young Lady today and here is a PM she sent me. I guess the forum is now OPEN for anyother suggestions.

 Here's what's been done so for, two different monitors ( one is a brand new Ceronix LCD ) two different 3902 MPUs ( one was good when I mailed it Wed. ) three different sets of software ( one set was also good Wed, ) I'm going to hear a bunch of BS over this but that's for a different thread. I had her with power on to pull the monitor out and in a couple of times to see if the color would change, it didn't.  Then I suggest she unplug and replug all the connections to the mother board, I'm guessing that didn't help because she didn't call back. I also suggest some contact cleaner on the plugs.

I sure wish I had her machine, I'd luv to figure it out.   


Hey, Buzz.
Well, bad news.  The board arrived today.  Everything was perfect with it.  Put the poker game in and still just purple and green colors. 
Needless to say, I am so disappointed.   
I also took a multi meter and checked the harness...it seems to be OK.  From the wiring diagram, I was able to figure out which wires controlled the red, green, and blue so those are the ones I checked. 
I'm at a loss at this point....could it be the motherboard on the back of the machine?   
 

Here is a photo of the screen with the poker game installed:

So Buzz, if I rocked a rack like this, would you reconsider? 

Jason

You know your gonna get me in trouble with the NLGs Cops if I give you the ansewer I'm thinking.  Let's just say ya gotta have just the right wiggle in your walk.  You can bet that Dude doesn't have the right wiggle and I'll bet the plumbing is all wrong also.

I think I'd better stop or be up S**t creek. 

Ok, it's not the 3902(MPU) board, not the software, not the wiring harness, not the monitor/LCD, the only thing left is the motherboard.  Swap it out and see what happens.

Where does the video feed come from on those games? I mean the actual plug from wherever to the monitor. I had a GameKing once for abouta week and never really looked it over other than to clean it before delivery

Cliff  I have one I have to put in a machine this weekend and test before it goes into the mail Monday. I would have bet the farm that a MPU would have fixed the problem. I guess one way of looking at is if I was smart I wouldn't own a slot machine.

I don't think this part of the story has been told. She bought this machine off of ebay  from a home owner . The seller had pictures of it working as it should. ( he said they were pictures of that machine ??)  When the machine was delivered the crate was all banged up and the belly glass was cracked, like maybe the trucking Co. dropped the machine. I'm thinking there would be a lot more damage than a cracked glass to harm the mother board.

Rob  From your left to right, third plug top row it's marked as "Slave Monitor" right below that is says "Bill Val"  next to that plug ( to the right ) it says " Monitor"  Same mother board as a S 2000.  "960"

I only have one true I Game machine, all the rest started out in life as a Game King. I just looked at the I Game and nothing is pluged into the "Slave Monitor" socket.

If it hasn't been done, I'd disconnect all plugs and reconnect to the motherboard if it was indeed working before.  Maybe that's already been done.

Jason

Jason In the PM she said she used a mulltimeter on that harness.

Sounds like the motherboard is all that's left :103- Could she plug into the slave monitor socket for a test? I suppose they probably just ran branched traces for the two sockets though. Might be worth a try...

Good morning.
Using the wiring diagram that Tilt posted earlier, I was able to find the 3 wires that control the color.  Yes, my multimeter showed continuity on all 3 wires.  However, I'm still not convinced that the problem isn't there.  I was reading online yesterday about computer monitors that have color issues and from what I read, it is almost always something wrong in the cable or a connector, just like Rickhunter said above.  So, I thought I should focus a little more time on this harness.    Yesterday, after I hung up with Buzz, I went to Radio Shack and bought some wire and some connectors.  I didn't have time to work on the machine at all last night, so I will tackle it today.  I'm going to try and rewire those 3 color wires and see what happens.  If I still have the color issue then the only remaining culprit seem to be the motherboard.  All of the pins where the harness plugs into the motherboard look fine.  I will post later today with an update.   Thanks everyone for all of the help!  Someday I'll get this resolved...I hope!  

Any chance of when the shipping company dropped the crate, it jarred some loose coinage around and landed behind the motherboard?

At one point in time, that motherboard needs to be removed and checked for burnt traces or a stuck coin in behind shorting out something.

K+ to all in this thread for trying to help out a new slot owner that purchased a machine off ebay. Sure wish the ebay seller would have stepped up and provided a working solution to the buyer or the fix may be an insurance claim from the shipping company. This has been a bad way to start on a newly purchased machine. Inkyspal, if you ever buy another machine, check with the reputable seller here first. You'll get a good working machine and support. ebay can really be a crap shoot.

DRUM ROLL PLEASE......



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I wasn't expecting to have such good news this early in the day!   
I was about to begin my rewiring adventure and was down in the machine taking another look over the motherboard.  Below where the monitor plug goes into the motherboard, there is a long port with lots of pins sticking out.  Above it is the word "Reels".  Nothing is plugged into this port, but my husband happened to notice that many of the pins on it were very bent and some were touching each other.  He took a screwdriver and carefully moved the pins apart so that none were touching.  I really didn't think this would have anything at all to do with my color issue, but I stuck the monitor back in just to see...turned the power on...and voila...perfect colors!   Can you believe it?  How could this unrelated plug have anything to do with colors?  I'm guessing that the touching pins were causing a short?   Here is a photo that I took of it...you can still see some of the pins are very bent.    I am pretty sure I know what caused this, too.    When I received the machine, at some point during transit the power supply box that attaches to the back bottom of my machine had come loose and was no longer attached.  I'm thinking that during transit it had bounced all over the place and probably hit these pins.  That's the only thing I can think of that could've done this.  (Yes, Neonkiss, I've definitely learned my lesson about eBay...the next time I buy a slot machine it will be from a reputable seller!  I think this machine was fine when it left his house, but due to his insufficient crating and packing, it was not properly secured to withstand the ride & the carrier's rough handling.)   

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So, after a long & exhausting journey to get this fixed, my game is finally the way it was intended.   A huge thank you to everyone who offered help.   Thank you to Buzz for sending me the board to try.
 :95-  Off to play my game!     

 :wa :136- :wa
:105-

That was it, something shorting out the 960 motherboard....

Good job, enjoy the machine and your new monitor. You've come a long way baby...
(ok, I'm showing my age with that quote)

Nice job, glad you got it fixed. With the original problem of loose SIMM and disconnected power supply and the bent pins, I would go through the machine and make sure all plugs and parts are secure. With that rough shipping, even though things are working, they could be loose and cause a problem in the future. Also consider letting members know what shipping company was used.

 Dan (tacman)

The shipper used Fed Ex ground....which has a weight limit of 150 lbs...which is what he declared on the paperwork.  You all know it weighed far more than that!  The CRT that was in it alone weighed 50!  I'm really surprised they took it.  There's no telling what the machine went through!

Outstanding!  Congrats!

Jason

Oh, and post up a photo of the machine in it's glory!  :)

Jason

Thanks!   Gotta go out for a little while.  Will post one later today.

Congratulations!   I'm glad to hear you found and fixed the problem.   :244-  I just marked up the schematics showing the signal flow from the 3902 board, through the Motherboard, and through the cable going to the back of the monitor.  I'll post them anyhow for future reference.  If you look at it you'll see the Red, Green, & Blue signals from the MPU board (changes signal name to RV19, 20, & 22 on motherboard schematic), gets split on the motherboard, with a set going to J17 (Reels connector) and the other to J5 (Monitor connector).  So a short at J17 would also effect the signal at J5.

Buzz,

My bet was on the 3902 MPU board too, because that's where the signals are generated using CMOS chips and other semiconductors that are more prone to fail than a series resistor and a cap on the motherboard.

Cowboy,

The slave monitor connector has a couple more pins that the J5 monitor connector, so the cable won't fit.  It appears that connector was designed for use with some type of different Multimedia board.

Thanks Tilt, guess I need to pick up and study a Coue different machines so I can speak from knowledge on them. Or just take a vacation and go fix some machines at Buzz's house :72-

inkyspal  Not a Whole lot I can add GOOD WORK  Not many new slot owners could do what you just did.

Now you have just got to tell us, who's Inky ??  Husband, dog, cat or a pet pig in the back yard.

Rob if you want to fix all my junk, make it a long vacation your gonna need it. Always Welcome.

Perhaps a fan of Pac-man?  :)

Jason

Ha ha....yes, I'm definitely a Pac Man fan.  Grew up in the 80's and played it all the time.  However, Inky was actually my cat.  I had him for 17 years.  He was white with black spots...when he was a kitten, he looked like he'd been splattered with ink.  Sure do miss him.

As promised, here's a photo that I just took of my machine:

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You know, when I received this slot machine about 6 weeks ago, I didn't know an MPU from a CRT...much less how to use a clear chip and change out software!  Had never even seen inside one before.  I learned so much about many facets of this device, from sheer necessity.  If it weren't for this forum, I would probably still be back at ground zero with a non-functional machine.   So glad a place like this exists with good folks who are generous with their knowledge. 

Nice looking machine!   :259- for sticking with it and getting it fixed.  Congrats!

Awesome machine!  Run away while you can...this site can cause you to spend a lot of money!  :)

Jason

There's a theory floating around this site, that if you turn off all the lights in the room with your machines, they will multiply before you know it.  It's a mystery!

Congrats on getting your machine fixed!

Congrats on getting your machine fixed. Sorry im late to the party but my health hasnt been good.

i would buy from the vendors here as they will support what they sell.. Ebay is a mixed bag. never know
what you will get.

Enjoy your new toy....

Cowboy,

Let me know when you are going to Buzz's House in advance so that I can bring up a few machine's for you to fix!!!!  :208- :97- :72- :200- :208- I am too busy and lazy to do it on my own! :279- :25- :30- :208-

CaptainHappy :95-

inkyspal: GREAT JOB!!!!  :131- :244- :3-  :105-

And for everyone in this thread, look out I see a  :50- :50- :50- :259- KARMA STORM  :259- :50- :50- :50- coming!!! :293- :284-

CaptainHappy :95-