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Title: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: ashyron on March 30, 2009, 03:52:37 AM
I was talking in another thread about putting black lights in slot machines.  :89- I bought some  :59- lights for my Crystal 7 machine and didn't like it but I also tried them in my S+ Double Diamond and I like it.  I have to say that in the pictures our C7 machine looks good but in person it doesn't.  Check out the pics.  What do you think? :103-



Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: ashyron on March 30, 2009, 03:54:29 AM
And one more of the C7 machine.   :3-



Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: ashyron on March 30, 2009, 03:59:57 AM
 :138- And some pictures of the black lights in my Double Diamond machine.  I think they'll stay there. Not sure if I like the black light over the reels though.



Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: ashyron on March 30, 2009, 04:02:21 AM
And more...... :88-



Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: tacman on March 30, 2009, 10:43:22 AM
Ashyron, yeah I think you're right. In the Crystal Sevens it washes out all the colors, which is a strong point for that machine. I also think it looks better on the DD machine.

 Dan (tacman)


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: idesign on March 30, 2009, 11:43:12 AM
What about fading?  Wouldn't the black lights accelerate this effect?  Especially on the reel strips.


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: tacman on March 30, 2009, 12:41:39 PM
Wow Jeff, good call. I didn't even think about that! :25- :25- :25-

 Dan (tacman)


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: jay on March 30, 2009, 02:11:47 PM
I was thinking of using Black Light with my Munsters theme but only by the reel strips.....now something else to consider.....


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: StatFreak on March 30, 2009, 03:46:53 PM
I'd keep the black light away from the strips. From the pictures, it looks like the best effect using the black light is in the belly glass of the DD; I might even take it out of the award as well, although it's hard to tell from the picture.


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: ashyron on March 31, 2009, 12:48:21 AM
I didn't even think about the fact that these black lights get hotter than the regular fluorescent bulbs.  Never mind having them in the machine, I took one of them back to Lowe's today.  I would have taken both of them back but I dropped one in the garage, of course it broke.  There's $10 bucks down the drain  :37-  Even behind the glass of the DD machine, it was messing with my eyes :25-  The belly glass was the best place for it and it wasn't bright enough in the awards glass to show anything. 

I seen some LED lights that I kind of thought would look pretty cool instead of the fluorescent bulbs in the reel glass but I dunno.  I'm pretty used to the fluorescent bulbs and that's what I have always been used to seeing and besides I have plenty of things keeping me busy, like trying to finish my game/family room.  :89-  Maybe one day I'll find some led lights that just hook up like fluorescent bulbs do.  And speaking of fluorescent, do the fluorescent bulbs run on 110 current or 12v current?  I heard that the bulbs in the switches are 6v (easier when its time to get LED's for them) but not sure about the fluorescent.  :99-


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: jay on March 31, 2009, 01:42:09 AM
There are always cold cathrode tubes that are plenty bright. They use these in PC cabinets.


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: StatFreak on March 31, 2009, 03:02:23 AM
I didn't even think about the fact that these black lights get hotter than the regular fluorescent bulbs.  ...

It's actually the ultraviolet light that does the most damage, although the heat would play a roll. The cold cathode tubes that Jay spoke of have been used by several members and look good when mounted in machines.


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: 5 ACES on March 31, 2009, 03:08:02 AM
I didn't even think about the fact that these black lights get hotter than the regular fluorescent bulbs.  Never mind having them in the machine, I took one of them back to Lowe's today.  I would have taken both of them back but I dropped one in the garage, of course it broke.  There's $10 bucks down the drain  :37-  Even behind the glass of the DD machine, it was messing with my eyes :25-  The belly glass was the best place for it and it wasn't bright enough in the awards glass to show anything. 

I seen some LED lights that I kind of thought would look pretty cool instead of the fluorescent bulbs in the reel glass but I dunno.  I'm pretty used to the fluorescent bulbs and that's what I have always been used to seeing and besides I have plenty of things keeping me busy, like trying to finish my game/family room.  :89-  Maybe one day I'll find some led lights that just hook up like fluorescent bulbs do.  And speaking of fluorescent, do the fluorescent bulbs run on 110 current or 12v current?  I heard that the bulbs in the switches are 6v (easier when its time to get LED's for them) but not sure about the fluorescent.  :99-

I believe the fluorescents run on 110V.


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: ashyron on March 31, 2009, 06:14:11 PM
I'll have to check in to the cold cathode lights.  Someone also suggested putting colored tubes over the fluorescent bulbs too.  It'll probably be a while before I really even do anything since my funds are still pretty low from buying the machines and working on the fun room.  Today I am buying LED lights for some of the machines Red and Green  for the S+ and white for the C7 machine.


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: sommer on April 01, 2009, 03:00:44 AM
 
I'll have to check in to the cold cathode lights.  Someone also suggested putting colored tubes over the fluorescent bulbs too.  It'll probably be a while before I really even do anything since my funds are still pretty low from buying the machines and working on the fun room.  Today I am buying LED lights for some of the machines Red and Green  for the S+ and white for the C7 machine.
 
Well'  :88- :88-this is how the blue colored CCFL, cold-cathode fluorescent lamps look like and it almost look like black light??huh...really cool.. i used 2/12" CCFL, they're so tiny cool bulb(no heat)
??where do you buy that colored tubes over the fluorescent bulbs?? :72-


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: Brianzz on April 01, 2009, 03:17:47 AM
That actually looks very good with that theme.. gives it a horror movie appearance, although the munsters were never ment to be scary

Here's one website with a catalog of tubes..

http://www.lightingplastics.com/Colored_tube_guards_for_fluorescent_light_bulbs.html (http://www.lightingplastics.com/Colored_tube_guards_for_fluorescent_light_bulbs.html)



Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: sommer on April 01, 2009, 04:08:59 AM
That actually looks very good with that theme.. gives it a horror movie appearance, although the munsters were never ment to be scary
   

brianzz,thanks for your input and they really looks good!!thank for the link,they look expensive..lol...
 


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: Brianzz on April 01, 2009, 04:11:36 AM
You could probably make some yourself pretty cheap.. just use some gels that DJ's use in club lights, I don't think there would be a heat issue


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: Brianzz on April 01, 2009, 04:22:19 AM
Ahh.. thanks google..

http://www.wikihow.com/Add-Color-to-a-Fluorescent-Light (http://www.wikihow.com/Add-Color-to-a-Fluorescent-Light)


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: jdkmunch on April 01, 2009, 10:31:48 AM
I'm jealous of the BACK light reels -  I love that effect. 
I think a light under the reels in addition to the light above the reels would look good.



Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: tacman on April 01, 2009, 10:37:46 AM
Yes, the blue does look good. I was going to do that to my Munsters in green after I did the Phantom in red. Have to admit the backlit adds to the effect!!  :3-

 Dan (tacman)


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: jdkmunch on April 01, 2009, 10:40:07 AM
I was told in a thread several months ago that if the strips are original - they will not fade.   Do you think the heat  of a black light would change that?


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: tacman on April 01, 2009, 10:46:22 AM
jdkmunch, I have several original IGT strips that have faded in spots where the machine sat idle for awhile. The fluorescent tubes, sunlight, etc. will do that. Although if I remember correctly most of those have been with the water soluble inks.  :103-

 Dan (tacman)


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: jdkmunch on April 01, 2009, 10:52:51 AM
Yeah that's exactly what I've been afraid of.    I keep my machines on for a while and then turn them off if I know I'm not going to use then for a while just to avoid that issue.   Even a tiny bit of fading would drive me nuts.  :81-


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: stayouttadabunker on April 01, 2009, 11:31:45 AM
I always thought that the cold cathode CCFL lights were best really.
They only draw 5 mA per hour, very low heat but very bright!
It can be hooked right into the 12 volts coming out of
the brown 4-pin molex connector on the door harness right near the change light switch.
A company called logisyscomputer.com sells them...
They were originally made for clear computer cases to show off the insides...


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: tacman on April 01, 2009, 11:44:20 AM
Just in case someone missed the thread, here is the link to my cold cathode light project.

 Dan (tacman)

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=2456.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=2456.0)


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: sommer on April 01, 2009, 11:49:28 AM
Ahh.. thanks google..

http://www.wikihow.com/Add-Color-to-a-Fluorescent-Light (http://www.wikihow.com/Add-Color-to-a-Fluorescent-Light)
thanks,that is much better ways to change light colors..
and thanks every one for all your input.....


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: ashyron on April 01, 2009, 05:41:02 PM
Just in case someone missed the thread, here is the link to my cold cathode light project.

 Dan (tacman)

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=2456.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=2456.0)

Looks awesome.  You need to patent your idea and start making lots of them for us that want to convert our machines over.  I checked out the other thread and that machine looks awesome.  I knew there should be a way to get lighting down to the coin tray.

It looks like this has been a pretty popular thread and now wish i hadn't been sick yesterday so I could have been commenting but oh well.


Title: Re: Black Lights in Slot Machines
Post by: Op-Bell on April 02, 2009, 05:16:59 AM
The blue light looks really good with backlit reels, but I doubt it would look so good with unlit strips.

Black light tubes were really popular with Bally machines in Britain in the late 1960s (yes, I am that old). The reel strips were printed with fluorescent ink and they looked really cool in dimly lit locations like pubs and clubs. They wouldn't work so well in casinos with bright lighting, so perhaps it was just a British thing. The top and belly were lit normally. I tried a black light in my Bally, but without the fluorescent strips it looked nasty.