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Hello all .. new here .. though my wife reads your posts... and helps reset ..etc.. my three machines .. i have a few questions for anyone that could possibly help .. they are all currently working after changing the batterys .. and doing the system reset ..

Have one Red White Blue 7's ... igt ..

Gold rush .. bally .

Black/white double jackpot .. bally 5500 boards ..

i d like to put them on Free play .. now they are set on 25 cents ..

on the igt .. there is one set of pin switches..

on the bally there are two sets of switches . both with 8 settings ..

any one have any idea how to reset them .. or maybe set them at one cent .. so they allow more play ???

Thanks ..

Dan

There is no free-play on the IGT.
About the closest you can come is to set it to a 1c denomination and then run a $100 bill through it a couple of times to build up credits.
You would then want to pull the wires off the CASH/CREDIT button so you can't cash out either.

Hi there ..

well the igt is Quarters only .. the two bally ones have bill machines ..

Do you know how to change the igt to take 1 cents .. is that a pin switch function ?

thanks

dan

To change a machines denomination....
You would need to change the sample coin in the comparitor to a penny.
It is recommended that if you are going to be using coins that you change the COIN HEAD. That is the silver thing on the outside of the machine.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
You should also change your Shelf Wheel in the hopper to one designed for pennies.
The main difference between the quarter one and the penny one is that the penny one lifts the coins higher so they are seen by the optics.

You then need to use a SET chip to change the denomination of the bill validator. Basically the machine is dumb and a coin is a coin. Coins in = credits on the machine.
However when you are using bills the machine needs to know how many credits to give for a dollar.

SO if this is a machine without a bill validator you can forget that part.

Thanks .. i appreicate it ..

so i guess i ll leave the igt as it is ...

What is a chip set ... ? ... About the bally machines with the two set of pin switches on the motherboard .. what are those for .. if anyone knows.. ?

do they change values  ? the payouts .. etc.. i have no idea so any information would be great ..

Thanks a lot ..

Dan

You mentioned that you have 5500 boards. Yes, some of the DIP switch settings are used to set denomination, but you need to do a complete SafeRam clear to change the settings. You might be able to put it in tournament mode, which would be a form of free play, but I've never tried it so I don't know if it will work with just any game. For example, IGT only has a few titles that have tournament chips, and you have to have the special chip as well. I'm not sure about the Ballys.

We will need to know what mains you have in your Bally 5500 to determine how to do a SafeRam clear. The older mains just use a jumper setting on the board, while the newer ones need a clear chip. With the power off, pull the MPU board and get the numbers off of the top of the chips in U3, U4, U12, & U15.  "9200000.." (c)1995  can be cleared using the JW10 jumper. Later versions need a clear chip.

It looks like both the Bally 5500 and Bally 6000 manuals are currently in the Submit a New File section. Click on the blue button at the top of the page to get to the files. Right click and choose "save file as" to save them to your computer. You can reference the 5500 manual to see what each of the switches does. Just be aware that most of the switch settings don't take effect until a full SafeRam clear is done, and then their states are read only once.

As Jay pointed out with the IGT, if you actually want to use pennies you will have to change the hopper shelf wheel and coin head and put a penny in the comparitor. You can always put some pennies in the hopper and see if they pay out alright without the shelf wheel change. My experience was less than stellar.

If you own a IGT S+ you should get yourself a SET CHIP and a Clear Chip.
Most of the vendors on the main page can fix you up. You might also want to look into getting a
bill validator if your machine is designed to have one.

A Set Chip lets you enable and set the denomination on the Bill Validator.
Basically how many credits do you get for a buck ?
If you get a IGT Progressive a Set Chip is also used to set the Progressive amount and increment amounts.
To use it you pull the MPU board. This is the removeable board in a metal tray behind the hopper.
You remove the game chip, insert the set chip, pop the board back in, perform the various set functions using the self test button and spin wheel button.
You then reverse the process - pull the board - put the game chip back in.

The clear chip is used to bring the machine back to factory settings.
There are two main boards - the MPU board and the motherboard which is the small fixed board that the MPU plugs into.
On the Motherboard there is a CMOS chip that gathers up all the game information, statistics etc and holds on to them permanently.
In fact if you watch your machine closely every 100 spins there is a brief pause while the machine updates the CMOS.
When the battery located on the MPU board starts to fail (about every 7-12 years) you need to replace it.
After you replace the battery the contents of the CMOS has corrupted. When this happens you will either get an error on the
LED display and most of the standard error-clearing procedures won't work. Other times the machine just locks up and nothing works.
In this case a clear chip basically reformats the CMOS and brings everything back to factory. After running the clear chip you do need
to use the set chip and enable other functions like the Credit/Cash selections and Reel noise.

If you check out RICKS FAQs there are all sorts of things you can do with your machine and he has it all well documented and illistrated.
I personally think he has the talent to write childrens books... like Moms gone Gambling how do I order a movie on PayTV ?
Seriously he has done a great job and they are not the usual dumb stuff that microsoft feeds you....

Hello all!

Keep in mind, on the IGT machines - if they are S+ machines and have older SP chips, you will not be able to set the denomination as low as a penny - I think a nickel it the lowest.  Check what your SP chip is and post it here and we can tell you for sure.  To find out your SP #, follow these instructions http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm) in Rick's Online FAQ.

Also, older SP chips do not require a SET chip to enable or configure the Progressive - it is done via the DIP switches on the MPU board.

Dan #2

Good point dpalmi. You will also need a SET026 to set a penny denomination. The more common SET015 won't do it.

Hello!

For example, SP779 won't do penny....lowest is nickel.  Looks like SP872 and newer can handle it...but I am just going by the PSR's I have and I don't have them all. 

But you are correct, if you have a SP that does support it, you will need a SET026 to enable it.

Dan #2

hello again ..

i have the motherboard out .. here in front of me ..

i see  the game prom SP731 .. on my igt red white blue 7's

There is no bill valditor on this maching .. it is currentyl set at 25 cents

The current pin switch is # 3 is on .. the rest are all in the "off" postion

it is supposed to hold 1000 credits .. but pays out @ 300 ,, is this also something i can correct by the pin switch settings ???

is this enough information to help me change the amounts of credits per quarter .. etc..

i have no white button next to my power switch ... just the one on the outside on the motherboard casing

Thanks so much ..

Dan

Hello!

:172-

I e-mailed you the IGT SP731 PSR :)  FYI - the lowest this SP can go is nickel - it can't do penny :)

Dan #2

You should check out Ricks FAQs.
You can get the chip numbers without pulling boards.
That particular game chip ignores the dip settings
You might want to check the upload a new file section for R273's simplified slot setup guide.
It will help you walk though the PSR that you just received in the mail.
A 1271 game chip will allow you to do a 1c denomination.

Hello!

Umm...I disagree...according to the PSR, SP731 does use the MPU board dip switches for "max hopper pay, reel spin sound, fast or normal game speed, progressive enable, high/low or alternating progressive, double or single progressive, and link or standalone progressive."

Dan #2

Hello!

I've attached a pic with the different DIP settings below.  You said the only DIP that is on was # 3 - which makes sense.  DIP switches 1 and 2 set the Max Hopper Pay - and both off are 300 coins.  Take a look at the chart and and re-configure them.  FYI - the "Progammable" setting will allow you to set the limit via the Self Test menu and then you can set it to whatever you want, not just the 300,400 and 600...follow?

Dan #2

dpalmi is correct. The SP731 does look at the DIP switches for the credit limit. I had the same problem that dmann7953 had when I got my first type 0 machine back in  :58-  ... well, a long time ago. :96-

Another thing everyone seems to be missing: He can't set ANY denomination, penny, nickel, or otherwise, because he doesn't have a bill validator. To an S+ with no bill validator, a coin is just a coin. There is a setting for denomination, but it only affects the bookkeeping values. So if dmann happens to be an odd ball like me who actually wants to keep the books on his slots, then it would be a good idea to set the denomination correctly, otherwise it makes no difference. Also, since he has no validator, he should be able to change the denomination in the setup menu; no set chip is needed.

dmann, if you want to be able to get a lot of credits for one coin, then you can change your SP chip to one that supports tokenization. The flip side of doing this is that the machine will pay out only one coin per tokenized amount. For example, if you set the machine to give you 10 credits for every coin that you play, then when you cash out it will only pay you one coin for every 10 credits left on the machine. Any extra credits will have to be cleared using the JP reset key (this is called soft credit collect) or by playing them off.

If you want to use a tokenized SP chip for your RWB (a type 0 game), you will probably want SP1137. There are many others, but I think that this is the easiest to find.

Good afternoon ..

Well FIRST thing i want to say is how nice ALL you men are ...    i have nt had a chance to do anything yet ... though i ll try over the weekend ..

my father has pancreatic cancer and lives in lauderdale .. so i dont know if i will have a chance to come home this weekend and try the things you have all suggested .. but it sure is

nice to finally find some nice people on the internet .. just wanted to ackowlegde your solutions

thanks guys ..

Dan

Been through that with my mother. Spend what time you can with your family.  It takes them fast. The slots will still be there later.