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Didn't know where to ask this..

But is there a good place, besides ebay, to get a idea what some glass and/or kits might be worth?

A guy came to look at some conversion kits.. and we found a box full of brand new Arisocrat plexi inserts.. Like 10 of them are " Buffalo" .. new with the protective cover still stuck to it.. He said these go for $100 each.. so it's like 1k.. plus there is like 20 more.. mr. cashman.. a wolf... looked like multiples. more...

Any truth to the price point?...

So now.. how do I fiqure out retail value.. in order to sell at wholesale?

Thanks..

just inserts and they are worth 100 bucks a  pop you should have told him to give you 50 each   you be Lucky to get 10 bucks each imo  , I love when people go and tell people high prices on shit they don't buy them self's , most likely  those inserts are for toppers , which if you don,\'t have the game or don't like the game you won't buy

This is a tough game.. I can see why so many are buying and selling this stuff..

Knowledge = power = cash

Well.. this individual is one of the people looking to buy it all.. He is waiting on the final list. Maybe he just don't know. I don't know.. searching online.. it is certainly a popular game.. and my daughter says she still plays it in the casino.. maybe that is why there isn't any? its current issue?

I've seen just inserts sell for $100.. even more.. on ebay.. Seen them sell for $5 too...most companys have glass only kits at 50-100.. and most are at 75 .. and kits with chips and software.. for $150 - $175.. And they are getting it...And there isn't a lot for sale .. that I can see.. Maybe no demand for it? or no inventory? not sure..

I guess you just have to wait for the guy who needs it to come along. He will pay the most..

no all kits are the not  same there are some dogs out there that aren't worth 40 for full kit , there was a  guy in newsgroup a few days ago with I game kits at 4 for 200  very fair price , the glass that's 50 to 100 each isn,t selling unless its something rare , topper insert are  selling at 10 buck a pop  , just because its still in the casino  means nothing   some  casinos still have s2000 double diamonds ,that still makes a few bucks  but you couldn't sell that kit for 50 bucks imo ,  selling kits is not easy 1st you need right s/w and it has to be all there and working , also strips , then the buyer needs the type of kit you have to fit the cabinet they have  ,rt, 9in, 16in slant top ect,

Well I will sell you 100 pcs of Aristo Plexi's for $500 delivered and you can make more money, there is plenty of kits around for most all machines you are just looking at wrong places, we have over 4000 kits in stock for popular machines (believe me Aristo's are not) and don't advertise anywhere you would have searched probably. I will admit Buffalo is a good theme but 1 good and 9 so so themes don't average out, and it better be correct size needed too. You could buy that Buffalo glass retail (used) in Vegas right now for $25-40 a sheet and they would probably give you 10 pcs of other themes to go with it.

there you go junk  you  can buy at 5 pops a pop buying the 100 from jim and sell to mr know it all in vegas for his 100 bucks each  think of the profit

Yea.. I can see there could be big price differences.. these kits all have the softwar, chips, reel things, button inserts, all the glass including the toppers.. Many are brand new .. never used.. That said..

I realize that they still can be junk.. Look for a list of the higher priced ones.. like I was just looking at 2 pieces of "south park " glass for $350.. WOW.. I'm hoping I have some stuff like that..lol

Most of this stuff is BALLYS, WILLIAMS AND iGT..

Is there someone in Vegas , I can pay, to give me a honest appraisal ? Like .. retail - wholesale -

Naw.. He's learning ebay.. he's up and running now.. and believe he has a contractor beginning to list for him.. That said.. He has a TON of stuff that looks like money to me.. but.. I have have 20000 items I have in my warehouse waiting to be listed.. Hitting up car part forums next.. have 20 pallets of new engine parts that have been here for a year.. and 40 pallets of new lighting waiting to be listed..4 pallets of remote control gas airplanes.. big ones.. Plus a lot more.. and I have a big auction tommarrow.. I can't stop..lol

if they are brand new never used kits  and they are good games they would have never sold them  they still have crap in many of their casinos  , they might be brand new  so so games that didn't make money  , harrahs didn't get so big giving anything away , the casinos in tunica ms still have games from 1990,s  early 2000,s in them

Without getting into detail.. I don't think these where supposed to be sold.. Toppers either. There more to the story.. but can't post it here..
It's still happening .. today.

As to the rest.. no clue if they are worth anything.. Just commenting what I see..
That's the reason for the thread.. try and figure it out.. before I just give it all away. too low..

I don't mind passing along a deal.. but no one wants to be ripped off.. and in this town.. ripped off is more likely what you would get...lol
 

Why do you need an appraisal, if you have someone willing to pay $100.00 ea????  :103-
Jump on it and count it sold.

Do you have a website where I can see your kits?
And where in Vegas can I buy the buffalo glass? I can stop in..
I just search google.. and nothing comes up..for the buffalo one.. a lot of them in fact.. That's my problem.

Maybe the only way to be sure about the value is to ebay ?.. As I see you do.. Now it's worth what someone just bid it too..

Thanks

He said that's what they are worth.. he wasn't offering.. Besides.. it all stays together til I see offers for it all..

There over 140 kits of so.. Plus a lot of stand alone glass and software.. I have no clue of the total value here..

Just as a side note, that South park glass has been for sale forever. It's eBay, people can ask whatever they want, selling is what sets the value and one unknowing idiot paying too much doesn't raise the real value across the board

I seen it on this site.. But realize people can do as the please.

I need a list of the good, sought after ones.. who has the secret list?

Someone needs to get rich writing a book or magazine for this stuff.. like baseball cards.. comics.. etc.

 :208-

 :331-

That is SO true.  Unfortunately, I've been that "unknowing idiot" from time to time.  A lot of us have.  I'm just glad I can laugh at it now. :8-

:Dave

For reference?

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26426.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26426.0)

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26350.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26350.0)

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26389.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26389.0)

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26401.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26401.0)

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26322.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26322.0)

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26325.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26325.0)

We've ALL been the unknowing idiot before. My point is we don't alter the overall market with our mistakes. One guy paying $500 for a pachislo machine doesn't change the fact that they can be bought for $150 all day long. If you can find a sucker to pay to much, good for you, I hope you can live with yourself. And if you can, I hope life catches up with you swiftly and justly

Thanks man.. seen all of them .. last looks ok for glass... not a kit though..

Few more for ya from vendors on this site ...

http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/wms-milk-money-game-kit.html (http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/wms-milk-money-game-kit.html)

http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/wms-jackpot-stampede-top-glass.html (http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/wms-jackpot-stampede-top-glass.html)

http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/game-king-triple-play--five-play-poker-glass--slant.html (http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/game-king-triple-play--five-play-poker-glass--slant.html)

http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/wild-rose-game-kit.html (http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/wild-rose-game-kit.html)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGT-S-DOUBLE-RED-WHITE-BLUE-R-T-SET-/150914648745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232336caa9 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGT-S-DOUBLE-RED-WHITE-BLUE-R-T-SET-/150914648745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232336caa9)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGT-S2000-9-SLOT-MACHINE-GLASS-KIT-TRIPLE-STARS-4-REEL-3-COIN-/360770161895?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ff93cce7 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGT-S2000-9-SLOT-MACHINE-GLASS-KIT-TRIPLE-STARS-4-REEL-3-COIN-/360770161895?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53ff93cce7)

I should add that Central Valley Slots and other vendors offer discounts to NLG members.  Thanks Roz!  :Dave

Ok that's great.. I'm just trying to find the market price.. Even that seem impossible..

I guess we can say on average.. the kits are apx $150 each.. That would get me close, I guess..

Since there seems not to be a good overall answer to this question..

In the end..each kit would need to sell on it's own.. at auction....to determine the real value..

Do they post prices? I'll ck in  a minute.. thanks

I must have either some good ones.. or some real crap..

At of all them links .. I didn't recognize 1 game that I have..

I did notice most kits don't have the install instructions, all the chips or software.. and none have all the bags of stickers/inserts for the buttons and stuff..
I'm thinking that is what makes it the $150 kit, or more....

Gonna try and post the first day list my daughter made.. it's all bally.. she sorted the kits by mfg..

There is NO approx. value available because prices vary so greatly depending on title. A very good example mentioned earlier is sports cards. This isn't a hobby you just jump into and say, "holy crap I can make a bunch of money on this", buying and selling games and/or kits  to make a living requires experience akin to what collectors of sports memorabilia have. Besides, you're selling wholesale and in lots, retail value or individual values in large mixed lots have no resemblance to retail pricing and/or individual unit sales. Big lot sellers don't give a crap about average price, they want to sell 100+ quickly and at a profit, period.

Just posted a partial list in the other thread..

Frank from Casino Glass - a legit and licensed dealer of orginal Slot Glass will sell you ANY sheet for $60.
So when I see crazy prices on ebay that exceed that I just laugh.
Frankly (Pun intended) Casino Glass  is at the high end of the spectrum for what I am willing to pay for glass.
I have purchased from Frank and he offers top knotch stuff at a fair price.

However admitting I tend to be somewhat frugal - I generally wait until I can get it for less.

Is that just 1 piece of glass or the whole machine?

How much are you willing to pay for kits?
all the glass, software, chips, reel tapes, button incerts..

Is he on here? Should I give him a call?

You can look him up in the Nevada 411.
Casino Glass is the name of the company.
Generally $60/sheet is what he sells at.

I have bought game kits - 3 sheets glass, strips and software as low as $30.00
I have paid as much as $120 for the theme I wanted.
Generally I have paid an average of $60 for complete kits.

Really depends on the theme.  There are a couple of IGT themes I've paid close to 4 bills for...each theme.  It all comes down to perceived value, rarity, and what blows your hair back. 

Game King upright glass is certainly on the "tall" side of the $ spectrum these days!

Jason

So I could buy lots of 100 of these somewhere? Where exactly?

Never said these are going wholesale in lots, for sure.. Right from jump, I said we are logging and taking photos for ebay..Would like the whole pile to go.. if money is right... then maybe some lots.. if money is right..If not.. I will have them all loaded on ebay by Friday.. All of them
Because I nickel and dime for a living.. I buy by the pallet and sell by the piece.. Let it sit on ebay forever... That is my core business.
This product in no different than any other.. buy low.. sell at auction.. make money.. The difficult part here is sales history.. Hard to id exactly what some of this stuff is worth...

A simple solution could be 7 day auction.. start each of the 130 at $50 .. list as parts only. . no returns.. and let them fly.. Shoot.. they are already in shipping boxes..
Record the results for the "price book" ..lol

I tell ya,  the more I try and put a number to it.. the more I am leaning that way..$60? $100? $150 more? .. Big differences x 130...
Just at $100 each.. its 13k.. with out all the misc stuff..

Oh.. we are licensed as well.. That is why all Nevada sales are taxed, unless you provide me with a reseller certificate..

Thanks

Those are the type I want to avoid selling for $50... and there is my problem...lol
I think I'm at buy it all... or buy it on Ebay.. It may be the fairest way too..
I can see issues when I 4 guys want the same kit..

Just depends on what you have dictates price.  A buy it all lot of 120-buyers/investors will not by 120  if 100 are dogs to get 20 good ones--Just my opinion.  In a lot price they would have to make $ as well,to include the pickup/transport/shipping-etc.  These prices are included.  I thought you did well listing the first page of game kits and would list the others as you catalouge them as well.  Some pics of the them would help as well.  Yes a package deal would be best but you have a lot of game kits as it seems.  You would need to sell indv. or perhaps a overseas casino etc. vendors here may be interested in my opinion.  Even some games that are not that desirable may fullfill somes needs -"just stuffing the holes" to get something going--Just a opinion.   No pun on your thread-Just thoughts.

130@50 bucks a pop from a guy that don't know which chips or simms go with what , just because they are in same box don't mean they are for that  game , he might not know which is a full setup , which chips   are missing,  if right strips are there , we had a member  here that's been in the slot biz for along time send out  wrong parts in kits    , best thing is to hire that guy that told you the insert are worth a 100 bucks each to check kits  pay him 5 inserts a day

All OEM software / chips match game titles in the box..
We have pictures of all kits contents... and close ups of the chips/software box contents.. So you get what you see. not what I say..
In fact .. ad will be like  I love lucy conversion kit.. You get everything in the photo's.. as is.. no returns.. parts only.. Combine shipping.. free palletizing..

But hey..  bid it on ebay.. Back to basics for me..

And bidding Starts at $50.. A lot of these are $150 wms bluebird....

What do you think?

When Sam get the rest of is complete.. I'll start a new thread or something.. And post..

You see the ballys ones.. are they dogs? I have no clue..

I stress .. that I really, really , really prefer to sell as one lot.. I think If I try and sell a few kits off here and there.. your members will start getting pissed at each other.. and more pissed at me.. and all of this becomes  more of a mess..

I'm thinking I should have just loaded it up on ebay..to begin with.. as I normally would do.

Maybe some of you could get together and split up the lot.. I know some are considering that..

After looking into a bit.. I think the WMS stuff may start at $100 ...As well as some of the funky titles of the IGT's and ballys..

Steve,  Just do what is rite for you, The parts and etc. You will do good over the long run on ebay if it is desired/needed/or wanted kits/parts etc. for this time frame. Some can use,some cannot,some just would not want.  Just no need anymore here if it is eyecandy that cannot be purchased at a decent price.  Just being pollite about this. 

Will load up the list when done.. entertain offers for all of it.. And go from there..

thanks

gonna sign off til then...

Ya, just remember those kit boxes are fine for shipping on a pallet where it gets moved with a lift truck. But send one of those boxes by UPS and your buyer will have a box of broken glass.

Good luck

It's good enough for the mfg .. it's good enough for me.. Many have shipping tag via fed-x.. which is our first for shipping as well.
We insure everything too.. lol

Don't take any advice from anyone on here, we've never sold a kit or shipped any glass before... :97- :97-

You don't even realize when someone's trying to give you legitimate help.  :60-

he already got too much advice from someone ( the 100 buck insert guy ), plus he knows more than most in here so he thinks

Yah, we don't know anything. Don't know why he'd even waste his time posting here... :72-

Maybe that explains the negative feedback on ebay.
You try to tell him so he can learn and not have to repeat the mistakes made by others but obviously doesn't care if his customer gets a package broken. He just says Oh well, it's insured...

I've been trying to stay away from this thread, because you folks that know me know I would rather take a beating than piss someone off. Now you folks just gotta take it easy on one of our newest members the Junkman. ( by the way take a look at his ebay store, he comes by the name "Junkman" honestly, maybe "High Priced Junkman" would have been a better title ) Come on now all he did was go to a Auction and out bid all the Professional slot buyers on some parts. I do have to question about not buying a pallet of (50) toppers for  $15.00 ( his words not mine ) thirty cents each sounds like a pretty good price to me. Well I said he was local I didn't say he's real bright. WTF a empty pallet is worth ten bucks !! Now all hes wanting is some free advice on the value of the parts he bought and if you read the responces hes getting it. He does have one really good idea, hes gonna take his s**t and go to Ebay, in my opinion not fast enough.

Dave ( 4 Deuces )  I see the Junkie-man made a good impression on you, just remember the old Carine expression " When I have my arm around your shoulder and patting you on the back, at the same time I'm pissing in you boot "  I'd suggest next time you go see Junkie take some dry socks with you cause I think your gonna need them.

Neon I think you gave some pretty good advice about the glass, but I'm sure ashamed of you. Giving as to where you live and the job you do and your trying to give advice to someone from the Big Apple, shame on you. Did you ever meet anyone from there that didn't know everything about everything, and has a longer line of Bull Shit than I do? Oh there must be some goods ones from NY City, I've just never met one. You know Stat always told me he was from San Francisco, I'll bet he's from NY and won't admit to it !! ( I don't blame him I wouldn't either )

Buzz, the local saying here is "I don't give a $hit how they do it up north"...  :81-

But being the friendly fellow that I am, I do try to give good advice if needed.  :88-

He's a scavenger by trade, so everybody else must be a scavenger just trying to steal his food, he can't trust US!

Rob It's strange you said that because I've found that most of the locals in Las Vegas don't trust anyone. Casino employees don't count because they are paid to be nice to you, but get away from the casinos it's a different story. Hell if you hold the door for someone they get pissed, like maybe you expect a tip for being nice. Poor ol junkie here is F***ed  two ways, from NY and lives in Vegas.

 :103- :103- Wonder now many I'm gonna piss off today ???

not me BUZZ I see PISS EVERY DAY . Lol  . P.B.

Hey....  :81-

Not all New Yorkers are bad apples
and speaking of the Big Apple which many of you western types might not know
is they have there own accent too,where as in upstate New York or 80 miles west has no accent.

No need for me to comment on the johnny come lately glass/parts seller  :200-

Tim

I' try and get a count for you Buzz, but you'd have to give a shit what the total was and I know you don't waste your time on that, lol. And don't mistake that statement for anything but a compliment...

Being born in the south such as my self and then spending 4-years in the alantic city NJ area the folks are diff.  most are arrogant by nature but alot just cannot help it.  Spent 2-years in the wisconsin area near cand. boarder---Nice folks there for sure (they freezing their buns off)!!,  spent some time in Calif.-LA  -- mixed pot there-mostly freaks and what not there high on drugs etc.  And been everywhere else in the us also.  This all was a while back in my lifetime.   Everything I have noticed in diff. areas is it is pretty much a "tribal" thing.  I do not like NY and yes I have been there-just not for me.  I like the "laid back lifestyle" and where I am it has just become ridiculous.

 Tim  My Mom didn't raise any idiots,  no where did I say anything about all New Yorkers.  Do you think I want that Native American on my a$$ ??

Peg,

See that's just it I live 10 miles from the Canadian border
If I look out my back window I see the woods and out the front I see the river.
NJ or the Big Apple is nothing like where I live it is totally laid back here.
Don't ever confuse that side of the state with the rest of it..
Lots of farm land and open spaces.

Who cares about a little cold and snow
that's why we have skis and snowmobiles,get out and enjoy life while you can.
I couldn't imagine x-mas morning as a kid without snow on the ground.

In fact you can have all that hot 100+ weather where you can't go outside
twisters,earthquakes,smog,hurricanes,and god forbid a dusting of snow down south
it becomes a disaster area...hehe okay I said my peace...

But out of curiosity Buzz or Peg
you wouldn't happen to have a old tv set with tin foil
wrapped around the rabbit ears so you could pick up that long distance tv station
just so you could watch Gunsmoke...would ya ?  

Tim

 Just watching TV with the family . Boy are you funny . You don't even know where the foil goes .P.B.

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Well.. Some of you folks make it hard... damn hard to keep coming on here and try and give some deals to some people.. You ruin it for everyone here.. And I think that is your plan.. You win. I hope the other members realize who you are.. Because you cost them. I am the one of the biggest buyers in this part of the state..and I personally work with the rest of them.. While it's all Junk.. It's Junk people want. It's Junk people pay for. Including you.. Yep.. You cost them.. I just don't have the time to keep playing here..

Search the archives here.. it seems to be a very common problem for ANYONE new trying to sell anything here..

Some of you mistake being straight forward as being aggressive.. Many people do. You should fix that..

Will send out the list via email later or tommarrow..

Btw..Just got back from a big MGM/venetian auction.. and I'll be damned if I even tell you what is on the 22 pallets that I bought. .Buy it on ebay....

Oh.. and I didn't buy those topper at the rio.. because most only sell for $20.. I was 25k in, with  8 ryder truck in route to my shop.. why would I buy some crappy toppers?

And I am from Upstate ny.. But love the city.. real people.. not fake ass wanna bees..

Well when you tell the rest of your buyer buddies what a Son of a bitch I am, make sure you spell my name correctly !!!!  It's Buzz, with a capital B

Oh no, did he take his ball and go home? Now what do we do? :279-

Prob. Just use that ole used,trusted ball we have been using here as far as a "trustworty" ball--(vendors,good people etc.)  Been using that same ball here for years.  Sheet we just aired it up a couple weeks ago. 

Well, I'm just glad I'm part of the "family"...apparently, it's a secret family....which, thankfully, can see right through Junkers selling their treasures! We're just here to help people fix games, peddle a few parts, and enjoy good company. Will we get rich? Probably not, but at least we can sleep at night knowing we didnt screw anybody over on anything today!

Maybe I should get in the utensil biz....I hear its HUGE! Or lighting overstocks, I bet that's a good one too! Or maybe I'll just stick with slot parts, as I hear ALL the dumbasses are doing that!!!!  :97- :97-

Holly S**t  I've been black listed !!!   http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26481.msg204263#msg204263  Top of the list and he spelled my name right, making progress. And all this time I thought he promised to gp to Ebay.  Now if he would just get past the idea that I would buy anything from him. 

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26446.msg204697#msg204697 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26446.msg204697#msg204697)

:Dave