New Life Games Tech Forums

Hey gang glad to be here! I have an issue. I accidently bumped into the main board an then I had to continusly  turn the power on and off before the machine would display the error code 61.1  the I hit the reset and  it would work  but as soon as I turned off the machine I'd would have to hit the power on and off a few times before the error would show. I purchased a new chip set for the reel prom and a new game  prom but it doesn't get passed the reels check point I get and 41, 42, 43 error depends on the time of start up. The new chips solved the eprom issues having to reboot problem  but now cannot get pass this issue. Now if I switch back to the old chips the game works except the still have the original issue.  My game is a haywire 3 wheel ,the original chips for the  game eprom is
Sp1146 type 2 reel eprom is ss4152 the new chipset
 Ss4079 and a sp779 type 2 please help.

What do you mean "I accidently bumped into the main board "?   Did you pull it out while machine was on?

What do you mean by "main board?" Do you mean MPU or the mother board? I'm thinking you mean the MPU. Assuming you meant the MPU - I'd check to make sure it's seated properly and there are not bent pins. I would also check to make sure your chips are in the correct direction. Also look carefully to make sure one of the legs isn't squished and not making contact.

Some how when I put the coin hopper in it bumped the board

Yes the mpu no bent pins all wires seem to be sturdy

Did you check the chips... eproms?

Yes I did did I get the wrong chips

Not sure what is going on

Are you saying "Yes I did get the wrong chips" Or are you asking "Did I get the wrong chips?"
Are you sure they are installed in the correct direction? There's a listing on NLG for the proper SP and SS chips...should be in the s plus category.

I'm sorry I was asking did I get the wrong chips ill look at that section and see if it works.

Ther are in the right direction notches are correct

Ok since I've pit in. A higher percentage chip do I need to clear chip it

Any more ideas

Ok, ok, ok...lets slow down a bit here. We still don't know what you mean really when you say you "bumped the main board". If the board was seated in the tray, bumping it would not cause any problems. I can't figure out what else you could have done by bumping it. These things aren't that delicate really. Why did you change chips? If it was something you wanted to do to get a different payback percentage, that's understandable, but hopefully it wasnt because you thought it would "fix" something.

When you power on a machine, the error code does not always appear instantly. Sometimes it will take a little bit. Powering it on and off will do nothing, all you are doing is restarting the process. I know you probably think we just don't know what the hell were talking about, and maybe that's true when it comes to some things, but when it comes to S+ machines, we've seen a few, and experienced about every problem there is with them. Unless there is some issue with the power supply, powering it on and off at start up does nothing but confuse the machine by ,asking it restart over and over. Just turn it on and wait....

If you get a 61-1, you should NOT hit the reset AGAIN, instead, you should turn the jackpot reset (small brass) key on the side of the machine. Ive never had one "work" after hitting rest when a 61-1 is displaying. Elaborate a little more on the EXACT steps you are taking at each error (or just ask what to do before doing anything) and we can help you.

Thank you whenever I put in the hopper the machine went blank, I decided to put in a higher percentage chip and ordered a new eprom just in case so righ now when I use the two new chip, I turn on the power hit reset and the reels spin but the I get an error code 41, 42, 43

Ok, hardware and software are 2 different departments on the machine. Lets separate them completely for a minute. Put the hopper back in and power up the machine. What do ya get? Now, power off, pull hopper out, and power up. What do ya get?

You could have something crazy shorting out your hopper. Machine just needs chips, it doesn't care what ones it has. For now, I would go back to original chips and get the game back up and running. THEN, I would change the SS and Sp if desired.

Ok The SP1146 is a 16Mhz game chip and the SP779 I would guess is a 10 Mhz.
You need to find out which MPU you have and the easy way to find out is look
at the top of the MPU board for the Blue Volume wheel.
If the have the blue wheel the it's a 10Mhz board.

But it was working before  then it's most likely a 16Mhz board
Put the Sp1146 chip back in and leave the SS4079 in the other slot and try it again.

Good catch Proten! My way of thinking is to go back to the original config and work forward from there. If game was working, and you tried to fix it, them maybe the fix didn't work. So go back to where you were originally and re-think it!

Ok it doesn't have the blue volume button let me do what you suggested. Thank you partner.

He never said he got a 61...partner....only a 61-1.  :103- :103-

Ok with old chip 1146 the machine doent boot up I turn the power off the on this time it boots up i get a 61 then clear that out machine works but only after I turn it off then on naturally if I turn it off its going to be a pain in the butt. Now after I bumped into the back of the machine like an idiot it started getting an 85 bad eprom a guy said it was fried so that is why I wanted to install the new one. But if I use the new chip my reels do not pass the reel check

Well, one thing at a time...machine needs to clear its errors one at a time. At a 61, you would press the little white button.if it goes to a 61-1, turn the key ONE TIME. If you turn the key at wrong time or too spammy times, you will need a Clear. I really think we can get you out of this without a Clear!!!

I am able to clear it and it does work however  if I turn it back off then on it doesn't want to boot up now if I turn it off and off maybe three, four times it finally boots up  the 61 process begins until I tun it off then the process starts over. A person suggeted that it had had a bad eprom so I replaced that and a new reel chip to get a better percentage

Ok...you really need to STOP!!! Slow down, and take one step at a time!!! Just because you clear a machine doesn't machine it will be GOOD after that!!!! If you want help, we are here. If you can get it going by yourself, them have at it. You can't expect us to spend time trying to get YOUR game going, if you won't listen or respond to what we say or ask????

Sorry, I know it's frustrating. We are trying to help, but we need to stay on the SAME PAGE as you!

What exactly do you need to know read my last post that is where I am at

I think he has got it jacked around to bad to fix without a Clear Chip.

Here's what you should do.
I don't have those chips to send you, so you need to post a WTB (Want To Buy)
for the SS 4079, SP 1146, a Clear chip and a Set chip (SET088/89/90/91).
One of the venders here can get you the right clear.
Once you get the chips  you then get back on here and we will walk you through one
step at a time and get you going again.

Ok I have a clear chip coming I aleady have a new the same chips that I purchased from ebay. So the clear is the trick?

The clear will clean out the crap in the eprom on the motherboard
and you will have a clean slate to start.

Are the new chips the ones that you've been working with tonight?
The ones that you got the error code 85 for?

If so they may be toast, I'll look and see if I can find some and get back with you.

Yeah, lets go back to "when the game was working"....

Yes the chip that had the 85 code is what I have in it now .  I will wait until the clear and set chip come in funny cause I ordered those before I got these. Thanks guys.

If I can find the right chips, I'll send you a set to make sure you have the right ones.
We have seen some strange chips come out of eBay.

What was scary was he was turning the power on and off like crazy in the first few posts here.
I hope it didn't hurt his 16MHz MPU board.
It's not good to be flipping the power button off and on, or opening the door while the board is trying to "boot up"
and causing reel error codes such as [41], [42], or [43]

Like others, I'm going to wait until his chips come in.

When you install these chips hellzbells, make sure the notch on the chips are pointing in the same direction as the notch stenciled on the board itself.
You will see a little square notch in white etched right on the board by the chip socket.
Be very careful that you don't fold under a leg beneath the chip body when pressing the legs into the receiver sockets holes.

Thanks guy but I have a 090 set chip coming. Anyone here have the instructions for that set chip.

Maybe try whoever you bought if from. They will most likely have something for you.

I know someone has to have it here. The person that sold it doesnt have detailed instructions like how to set the progressive

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=1030 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=1030)

That is a link to the PSR that details all the options of the SET 90 chip.