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As a continuation of this thread. http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=27051.msg208215#msg208215

I got my new SP1271 because I broke my original. I did the ram clear and setup the denominations and bill validator. Now I have a Reel tilt 42 and so I tried swapping the reel to slot 3 and I get a Reel tilt 43.
I did some searching and found this thread http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=9519.0 BUT to my luck the OP never replied with what fixed the machine.

I found someone semi local with a reel assembly they will sell for me $20 bucks but I have not gone to get it because I want to be 100% sure that is what it needs to fix it.

Like the guy who started that thread said, I may just have to see how well this machine holds up to some gun fire. But instead of his .357 I will bring out the 7.62x54R and see what the machine is made of!

Make sure the reel strip is tight a not loose at the end. Sometimes the strip  touch glass/door and cause this tilt. I've never had a bad reel on an S+.

With the high cost of ammo these days the 20 dollar reel might be cheaper :)

Good luck,
Mike

all the reels look alike as far as the strip goes...when it tries to spin the reels they dont ever spin but maybe 3-4 pictures, never even making a full revolution.

Try looking through reel glass when reels start to spin and see if they are rubbing.

You might also try turning off power and spinning each reel to see if they're tight or rubbing.

They have over 1/4 in of clearance. They are not hitting the glass at all. With the power on each reel feels the same tension on it when moved and with power off all 3 reels feel the same when you spin them. They spin freely with a slight sound of the motor

Maybe try some contact cleaner on the connector on the reel and the harness? Like mentioned earlier, having a bad reel on an S+ is not a common problem. Corroded connections on an S+? Probably the MOST common problem on an S+. Worth a shot and only takes a minute.

The pins look really clean

My personal experience with S+ error codes 41, 42 and 43 have only been fixed by running a clear chip. I never have been able to clear these particular errors any other way. I have had several, mostly by opening the door while the reels were in play.......dumb move.

Just my opinion, Dale.

The fact that the reel tilt followed the reel position might mean he really does have a bad reel.  If you put that bad reel on position 1, do you get an error 41?

ok I picked up the reel for $20 bucks and started back over from scratch. Ran the clear chip. Then put the set chip in and set it to 9  1 and then 25 on denom. I then got the typical 61/ 61-1 then the reel all roll and stop 3 2 then 1 and then it shows 0 in the coins played and the rest of the displays are blank. the machine will not accept a bill or take a quarter. I have the quarter put in the coin acceptor like its supposed to be.

These 7.62x54Rs are about to go in the gun! I am getting frustrated by this old boat anchor lol

Ok I have no clue! what I did but it started working. BUT not perfectly. It seems like reel 2 (the one I replaced)  is the only one indicating correctly. It will pay out at weird times. Is there a way to self test this to setup where the reels are supposed to be?
(all the reels paper is lined up on the notches)

Don't get frustrated, we have all been there.  I'm not very good with these S-plus machines but there are some on here who are good with them.  When I was working on one of mine it took a couple of weeks but it got there.  Sounds like maybe BV was not enabled or some limit is set to low.  If someone has the PSR sheets for the chips that might help. (I think that is the correct terminology).  That sheet will help a lot in the setup.  Has the machine worked before since you have had it?

Mike

The reel strips are usually installed in numerical order (lowest to hightes). Check to make sure they are in the right order from left to right.

reels are in 1-3 left to right. I had it working then I took my 20 bucks out of the bill collector and closed it back up and it quit working again. I have taped the bill collector door switch down because it was not contacting well since the lock is not there to hold the door closed. But I am totally stumped on why it quit working. Its almost like how it just started working out of no where.

I am getting more frustrated than ever. I can work with codes or clearing things because its black and white....now im in this weird gray area where its just not working and showing no codes at all.  :279-

I was referring to the reel strips (the "paper" strips installed in the plastic baskets).  You need to remove them and look at the number printed on each strip and make sure that they are installed in numerical order.

This machine literallly does everything its supposed to but it stopped taking bills or coins. Everything was fine till I wanted my 20 bucks back out of it

Put the cash can back in all the way....you just said it was working until you got your $20 out....backtrack!!! Whenever an S+ does the "opossum" mode, always check the cash can. If it was anything else, it would give an error code.

I have had it out and back in again 4-5 times since it quit working.....when inserted it cycles the BV but it wont accept anything. Idk if you saw my post about how it magically started working. Well it stopped as oddly as it started. Nothing I open/shut remove/replace gets it to do anything different. The person I bought the reel from says there is a switch on the belly door but I do not see one anywhere.

Instead of taping the Cash Can door switch down, tape the cash can door shut. Sometimes when you don't use a lock and close the main door the cash can door gets ajar. It doesn't have to move much to screw things up.

The main door has a 7 pin barrel lock but the Bill catch can doesnt have a lock on it.

Open the door with the power on and check to see if the reels spin freely or have resistance.  If they spin freely check the harnesss from the side of the power supply to the motherboard.  The connection on the motherboard is a problem area for S+ machines.  Move the plug up and down to clean contacts, if you keep your eye on the reels they will jump a little and lock up when you make a good connection.

I have already fixed the reels. The machine was working like it should then I removed my money from the bill collector and it went into possum mode. I have tried everything to get it to start accepting coins and bills again but it wont.

did you try my suggestion?  I've seenb these connection problem come and go. 

After talking with Ripohl on the phone we were still not able to get this possum to wake up. I guess I will screw with it tonight after work. Hope yall have some more ideas or I may use this machine as a boat anchor.

if the machine worked as it should  and the only thing you did was to remove the money from the cash can, then the only thing that is causing your problem would be the cash can door switch, it will disable the whole machine. check and see if the switch is still installed, it is a trigger operated type switch, when the door hit the roller arm it will push the arm in and activate the switch, bypass this switch, and your problems will disappear. 

once this is done you should be able to press the tiny white button on the coin optics board and establish credits and play the machine. then you can go into the test mode and run the test that shows you the SS and SP numbers, just press the spin reels switch, each winning combo will come up on the reels and show the payout values, you could check each and every combo.  this will compare the correct reel strip position to the glass payouts.

Hope this helps

Jim

Okay, now I am confused even more. While getting ready for work my power flickered, and the machine recycled, then just started working. I was certain it was a connection issue somewhere, but now I am stumped. Any ideas?

True to it's history, it quit working as soon as it started - without opening the machine at all.

As posted in the previous message, I taped the bill collector door switch down. I will try running these tests as you suggested when I return home.

Please see above post for a little more info on the problem.

Instead of taping the switch, remove the wires completely and twist them together then tape them. That switch is now out of the loop. Never worry about the BVD door again

When the machine isn't working, are there any numbers on the red LED displays?  If not, it could be the power connector between the power supply and the motherboard, which is covered in a sticky topic in this S+ subforum.

The way the machine is acting, I would unplug and reconnect each connector multiple times. Since it sat unplayed for so long in a basement I would suspect corrosion. And I mean every connector, not just until it starts working again. Do 1 at a time several times to make sure you have good contact. The power connector Knagle is talking about is behind the hopper. Has 6 wires in a flat connector plugged into the motherboard on the bottom of the machine. Look at the backside of that plug for a burn mark. Good Luck

I have done the main power connector that you describe and it is clean. I will do the rest of the plugs this weekend and get back with yall.

Ok I found the wire connection that was loose. It is the white plug on the left side of the BV. I just starting wiggling things around until the BV light came on.

But what is interesting is again when I pulled money out of the bill collector it stopped working. During the process I redid the tape on the door switch. It stopped working again. I tried the white plug like I had found and that want it. I untapped the bill collector door switch and bam the light comes on and the BV was back to working LOL I have no idea why if I push the bill collector door switch the BV stops working.

Instead of taping the switch, cut the wires to it (just 2) and twist them together and tape them. Move the wires away and tuck them under the bottom. Never a problem with that switch again. That is the first thing I do to all my machines.

so are you saying the switch is a closed circuit when the button is pushed? Because right now if I open the belly glass and push the bill collector door switch the machine will STOP working. I have to leave the button unpushed for it to work.

Yes, the switch makes the circuit. Possibly someone moved your wires. I have seen switches with 3 connectors for normally opened and normally closed. Maybe someone moved one wire. I would still wire those suckers together and forget about them.

if it ever gives me an issue I will go down that road at that point but right now the machine is working great. played it for a few hours last night. So I am not going to fix what isnt broken