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Hi, I want to back up my S2000 and Wms 400 chips. Which burner from MCUmall do I want to buy? Which chips are needed for my backup purposes? Thanks

i dont know much about new chip burners but i use a chip master 6000 s2000 use 4002(base),801(gme1&2),4001(version)

Get the GQ-4X and you will need the ADP-054 adapter for the 27c4002 chips

Works Great!!!  Never had a problem yet!

I own two from these guys Batronix I use the BX40 ( http://www.progshop.com/shop/programmer/BX40/index.html ) more, works like a champ. and a Batronix USB Chip Programmer  this one works faster but wont do 40 pins.
AkLarry

I was told there is a bit of a learning curve with this model...True???  :103-

Stepper Version Chip is a 27C1001, 27c010

I have one for sale,with adapter.Just bought a different one so I could do Aristocrat chips.

Hardly used...$100

Not at all. Very simple to use. Even I can work it !! And I knew nothing about chip copying when I got it.

Exactly what type/size devices does your Williams use Mike?
It will be written under the label onto the top of the eprom body.
The GQ-4X is good for the S2000 but I'm not sure about WMS 400 chips.
This is why I ask.

Why do they call it a "Wilhelm" Programmer?

I'm going to take an un-educated guess...lol

A guy named Will was at the helm when they designed the programmer?  :5-

It is German for William.

Will the GQ-4X burn back-up chips for game king,  I+games? I know it wont do simms, or is there an adapter for that too?  :103-

Again,
It depends on what type/size chips you're using.
The MCUMall website has a complete list of what the GQ-4X programmer
is capable of using and what adapter is needed...>>>

http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/mcumall_TrueUSBWillemsupportICs.asp (http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/mcumall_TrueUSBWillemsupportICs.asp)


Simms are more like memory sticks/cards sort of like the ones
that go into slot on a desktop computer.
They are in no way shape or form similar to eproms other than
the fact that they store data.  :60-
It would be very surprising if you could find any burner that
can do both devices using the same programmer/reader unit.
As for a Simms burner , Eric Forrhouse can help you with that...  :71-
Below are the physical differences between a Simm sound card and an eprom chip...>>>

Base on the suggestions of Stat, Buzz and Bunkler I got the GQ-4x and have been using it with no problems at all.  Very easy to install and use.  :89-

Want to make sure no one on here is interested in my GQ-4X,before I put it on Ebay tomorrow.

Tom   NOT me.  I have never used a GX-4X in my life.  I'm to old and they are to slow !!!!!!!!  Batronix  BX40 is programmer of choice.

oops sorry Buzz... didn;t  mean to have you give an unquaified endorsement... you did tell me to get "a" burner   :30- :89-  But the GQ-4x does work for me and is fast enough for me..  :89- :79- :200-

I have the GQ-4x with the latest software release installed for Windows Vista64. I have no speed issues
I have burned:
27c64, 27c128, 27c256, 27c512, 27c080, 27c1001, 27c4001, 27c4002, 27c1096,and 27c010 with no issues or speed problems. Get little burner for the money.

@laneman - pm sent

For most of us who only burn or read the occasional chip, the GQ-4X is fast enough. If you have lots of machines and are constantly working with chips, it might become an issue.

Both Bunker and I experience write speeds of about 1Mbit per minute with the GQ-4X, so an 8Mb chip (a 1 MByte file) takes about eight minutes to burn. (Reads are much faster.) Since most of the chips I burn are 1Mb or 2Mb, it only takes me 1-2 minutes to burn the majority of the chips I work with.

By contrast, Buzz's BX40 burns an 8Mb chip in about 20 seconds. (I think -- Buzz can correct me if I'm wrong.) 80 seconds. (<ADD> Buzz corrected me :5-)

Of course,  the BX40 costs three times as much as the GQ-4X.


Don't forget, Einstein proved that t_s = m_s^-2  where t_s = Time Spent, and m_s= Money Spent.  lolol. :72- :72- :72-

I wasn't talking about the speed of the chip, the speed of the burner is my concern.

Capt. Happy. Bunker, and Stat have all told me their GQ-4X takes 8 minutes to burn a 8 meg chip. My Batronix takes 80 seconds to burn a 8 meg.  If your burning one or two chips that's no big deal is it, but as I sit here I'm thinking I have 30 S2000 I need to remove the SG000155 and replace them with SB000363 so the machines will have multi denom.  You do the math   60 X 8 minutes = 8 hours  or  60 X 80 seconds = 80 minutes ( that's a savings of 6 1/2 hours that I can use typing on this damn computer )

Your GQ-4X needs adaptors for 40 pin chips, I don't.  Batronix has Chip Auto Identify, GQ-4X doesn't ( I don't have to peel back a label and try to read those small numbers to see what size chip I have, one click of a button and the burner tells me what I have)   



David you got in ahead of me.

But it costs way more than the GQ-4X right? I have seen some burners go for 1000 dollars or more, is it just a speed issue??

No it's not just speed, the Auto Identify is the one thing that sold me on the BX 40. and it is made in Germany, not Japan or China. Cost $280 + shipping. This is the truth, I have never ever had to look at my manual for my burner. And that's what I needed, a NO brainier burner!

The Thousand $ plus burners usually do gangs of 4, 8, or 16 at a time, so, while good for a production environment, they are overkill and way to costly for the home user.

Expect to pay $250-500 for a good single socket USB like the Batronix or my favorite, the ChipMax 2. I chose the ChipMax 2 because the company's North American presence is less than 4 miles from where I work. I did have an issue with mine about 6 months after I purchased it, I took it to their office and had a replacement in in my hand in about 20 minutes.

My Chipmax 2 is awesome.  I also have an easypro 90B which works very goo for chips up to 40 pins but isn't as fast as the chipmax.  I believe it cost me $100 from ebay new.

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The GQ is sold.