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Title: New slot owner need info
Post by: Pondus on May 13, 2009, 01:22:16 PM
Hi everyone!  :88-

I'm finally become a slot owner and i'm thrilled about my new investment :3-
We imported 6 Igt S+ to Norway from Sweden and I'm the lucky owner of 3 of them. But I have some questions. I'm not gonna take them all at once in the same post, but rather take it slow since all of the machines are up and running.

Does anyone have any info on some of the following machines:

1 Red, White & Blue
   SP114
   SS3444(?)

2 4th of July
    SP494
    SS4364

3 Triple Diamond
    SP584
    SS4788


Useful information may be things like:
-which set and clear chip is the right one?
-is there some spesific game options or manual available?
-is there any other reel chips or other things that can be exchanged for an alternative game?
-any funfacts or other interresting info

Hope someone have some knowledge on these machines since I didn't see them in the bible

Thanx
Pondus


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: rickhunter on May 13, 2009, 01:26:58 PM
All those titles you list are on the S+ bible.  You select how many coins your machine(s) take and then look for the title.  Also there's a good section on things you can do with your slots such as game changes and enabling bill validatorsand common error codes and resolutions.


http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/ (http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/)


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: rickhunter on May 13, 2009, 01:33:08 PM

1 Red, White & Blue
   SP114
   SS3444(?)

http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Red,%20White%20&%20Blue%20(3%20Coin%20Multiplier.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Red,%20White%20&%20Blue%20(3%20Coin%20Multiplier.htm)

2 4th of July
    SP494
    SS4364
http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%204th%20of%20July%20(3%20Coin%20Multiplier).htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%204th%20of%20July%20(3%20Coin%20Multiplier).htm)

3 Triple Diamond
    SP584
    SS4788
http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Triple%20Diamond%20(3%20Coin%20Multiplier).htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Triple%20Diamond%20(3%20Coin%20Multiplier).htm)



Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: Pondus on May 13, 2009, 02:12:11 PM
Sorry my bad! :25- Somehow I thought the list in the top of this category was the bible, but now I've learned something today also. Thanx!

Regarding game chance, I was hoping there was possible to make for example RWB haywire or some other fun combination. Any thoughts?


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: rickhunter on May 13, 2009, 05:10:26 PM
The issue is the software.  There are games that have similar characteristics as far as the reel strips and winning combinations that basically turns one game into another one.  For example:

1.  Triple Diamond shares reelstrip order and paytable combos with Triple Dollars with Mystery reel action. You can use a Triple Diamond kit and use the chips from a Triple Dollars w/Mystery reel action to give a Triple Diamond game the mystery reel action feature.

2.  Double Diamond  shares reelstrip order and paytable combos with Double Jackpot Haywire.  You then basically turn your kit into a Double Diamond Haywire kit.

Giving RWB a haywire feature, although possible (anything is possible) is VERY difficult unless you have guidance from IGT, which as you may imagine is unlikely that they would just be nice about it and give you the information needed to create such a mod.  You would have to have a working knowledge on how the reel chip is made up so you can manufacture the game to your liking (which is what IGT does when they make a game, but unlike us, they have all the information regarding the layout and function of every byte in the program).  Because all this information is HIGHLY regulated by various governement compliance agencies,  information regarding this type of modification is a welcome mat for lawyers to come knocking on your door with Cease and Desist orders.


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: jstraa on May 13, 2009, 06:41:08 PM
I guess you got lucky, finding them affordable in europe, I think you've got luck!
Unless you paid an absolutely fortune!


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: Brianzz on May 13, 2009, 07:52:58 PM
There is a verison of red white and blue that haywires.. it's called Chaos


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: rickhunter on May 13, 2009, 07:54:13 PM
oops!!! Forgot about that one!  :25- :25- :25- :25-

I even have it. Double  :25- :25- :25- :25-


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: Pondus on May 14, 2009, 12:25:17 PM
Thank you all for all the feedbacks!

I wasn't planning to hack any software, but rather switch out the reel prom to something fun. Like many of you guys I like to tinker with games of all kind and thought it would be fun with an alternative slot machine.

But if i understand correctly: My RWB can use the Dollars chip, but there is nothing that maches the triple diamond?

A little funfact: These types of slot machines has never been allowed in Norway. Not in public anyway. We only had what you call fruit machines. The only place we could play these were on the ferries going between norway, sweden, denmark and germany.

We got them suprizenly cheap to... only about 500$ included transport to Norway.


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: rickhunter on May 14, 2009, 01:27:48 PM


But if i understand correctly: My RWB can use the Dollars chip, but there is nothing that maches the triple diamond?


You got it backwards, the triple diamond can use the triple dollars chip w/mystery reel action.  It requires a different reel and game eprom.   RWB does not have an equivalent.


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: Pondus on May 14, 2009, 01:59:07 PM
Obviously I need new reading glasses :5-
It's this one right?
http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Triple%20Dollars%20w-Mystery%20Reel%20Action.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Triple%20Dollars%20w-Mystery%20Reel%20Action.htm)

How does the mystery reel feature work? Is there any chance to buy this chip somewhere???


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: StatFreak on May 14, 2009, 02:15:06 PM
There is a verison of red white and blue that haywires.. it's called Chaos

Just to clarify, Chaos is very similar to Wild Star RWB, but the pay table is slightly different for the top two payout combinations, and the strip symbol order is completely different. It is therefore not possible to use the Chaos chips with a Wild Star RWB kit.

It is a variant of RWB, but you would have to buy the whole kit to have it play properly.


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: rickhunter on May 14, 2009, 02:52:01 PM
Obviously I need new reading glasses :5-
It's this one right?
http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Triple%20Dollars%20w-Mystery%20Reel%20Action.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%203CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Triple%20Dollars%20w-Mystery%20Reel%20Action.htm)

How does the mystery reel feature work? Is there any chance to buy this chip somewhere???

That's the right one.  The mystery reel action is just that.  The reels from time to time randomnly nudge up or down to the payline, there's no way to know when, it just happens periodically.  You should be able to obtain a chipset from any of our vendors.  Just post a WTB 3 coin (or 2 coin, whatever your Triple Diamond set is) Triple Dollars w/Mystery Reel action eprom set and you should get a bite shortly.

Do the machines have bill validators?  If they do you will need a set chip to re-enable them after you change to the newer chips.


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: Pondus on May 14, 2009, 03:59:12 PM
They don't have bill validators sadly, there isn't any mounting possibilities for this either. Not on the machine itselves. If I decide to get one, I'd have to mount it in the stand or on the side of the slot.


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: rickhunter on May 14, 2009, 05:27:07 PM
Ok, then you just need the 2 eproms.  I'm sure someone will contact you regarding availability.


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: Pondus on May 21, 2009, 05:36:38 PM
Do I need the SP chip also? Anyone know if it comes with Montana Credits (Triple Dollars)


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: rickhunter on May 21, 2009, 05:47:06 PM
Do I need the SP chip also? Anyone know if it comes with Montana Credits (Triple Dollars)

Yes you do need both, SP and Reel that's why I said you need the 2 eproms.  As far as Montana Credits, I'm not sure if a Montana Credits SP game chip is available for a type 23 game like this one.


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: Pondus on May 21, 2009, 06:21:17 PM
Is there any chip for 4th of July with Montana credits then??? :91-


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: rickhunter on May 21, 2009, 06:31:07 PM
yes, SP1137 is one that will work.  You will also need SET86 in order to set the value of each coin.  You could, for example, have the machine give up to 99 credits per coin inserted.  If you don't get a SET86, then theres 1 coin per credit.  If you configure the game to use montana credits, you could just feed the machine coins until your hand is sore (or you exceed the credit limit, whichever comes 1st)  :5-


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: Pondus on May 21, 2009, 07:03:12 PM
Does any SP or SET Bible exist? That would be great :72-
It would at least be easier to find out what chip you need for your slot. Another chip question I've got is: Can I choose any of the SS chips from the bible when I only want to change the payout percent??? Under the specific machine of course.


Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: a69mopar on May 21, 2009, 10:17:23 PM
SP1002 Type 38 (Little Devils) 16MHz?   YES   ID-023   SET062 0.05
SP1003 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz   YES   ID 2.4   SET019 0.01/0.02
SP1004 Type 0,1,4,5 10Mhz   YES   ID 2.5   0.05
SP1005 Type 41 (Cash Quest, Party Time), 16MHz   YES   ID-023   SET054/59 0.25 only
SP1006 Type 37 (Run for your Money), 16MHz?   YES   ID-023   SET054/59 0.25 only
SP1007 Type 32 (Pinball DLX, Party Time), 16MHz   YES   ID-023   SET054/59 0.25 only
SP1008 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz   YES   ID-023   SET016 0.01/0.02 Tokenized
SP1009 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz   YES   ID 2.4   SET011 0.01/0.02 Tokenized
SP1010 Type 30 (IGCA Interface Bonus) 10MHz   YES   ID-023   0.05
SP1011 Type 2 (Haywire) 10MHz   YES   ID 2.4   SET011, 0.01/0.02 Tokenized
SP1012 Type 3,6 (Volcano,Tidal Wave) 10MHz   YES   ID 2.4   SET011, 0.01/0.02 Tokenized
SP1013 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz   YES   ID-023   SET019, 0.01/0.02
SP1014 Type 0,1,4,5,12,14 10MHz   YES   ID-023   SET011, 0.01/0.02 Tokenized
SP1015 Type 27,29 (Wheel of Gold, Wheel of Fortune) 10MHz   YES   ID-023   SET054/60
SP1016 Type 30 (IGCA Interface Bonus) 10MHz   YES   ID-023   SET58, 0.01/0.05
SP1017 Type 27,29 (Wheel of Gold, Wheel of Fortune) 10MHz   YES   ID-023   SET041, 0.05
SP1018 Type 0,4 10MHz   YES   ID 2.5   SET064, 0.01/0.05
SP1019 Type 0,1,4,5 16MHz   YES   ID-023   SET077/78, 0.01/0.05
SP1020 Type 27 (Wheel of Gold) 10MHz      ID-023   0.01/0.02 Tokenized
SP1022   YES      
SP1023 Type 31 (Jeopardy) 16MHz   YES   ID-023   SET041 0.05
SP1024 Type 33 (Top Dollar) 16MHz   YES   ID-023   SET053/57, 0.05, Req Add on Mem PCB
SP1025 Type 37 (Run for your Money) 16MHz   YES   ID-023   SET053/57, 0.05, Req Add on Mem PCB
SP1036 TYPE 37 VOLCANO         
Sp1048 Type 0,1,4,5 10Mhz   YES   ID-023   SET58/76,  $0.01/0.05
SP1049         
SP1057 Type 19 (4th coin BAP) 10MHz   YES   ID-023   SET011, $0.01/0.02, Tokenized
SP1059         
SP1060         
SP1061 Type 19 (4th coin BAP) 10MHz   YES   ID-023   SET011, $0.01/0.02, Tokenized
Sp1077 Type 20         
SP1085         
SP1086 Type 2,21 16MHz         
SP1092 Type 37         
SP1102         
SP1106   YES   VER 2.5   TYPE 32 PINBALL
SP1115   YES   ID-023   TYPE 38 LITTLE DEVILS
SP1131 ?         
SP1135         
SP1136 Type 37          (Needs Set 91 to enable progressive)
Sp1145 Type 0,1,4,5 16MHz   YES    ID-023    SET088/89/90/91, $0.01/0.05
SP1146 Type 2,21 (Haywire, Haywire DLX) 16MHz   YES    ID-023    SET088/89/90/91, $0.01/0.05
SP1147 Type 0,1,4,5 16MHz         
SP1148 Type 14 Tournament         
SP1160 Type 0,1,4,5 10MHz   YES   ID-023   SET088/89/90/91, $0.01,0.05, 9 Paylines
SP1166 Type 37 (Needs Set 91 to enable progressive)         
SP1174 Type 0,1,4,5,12,14 10Mhz   YES    ID-023    SET087 $0.01,0.02 Supports 9 Paylines Tokenized
SP1175   YES      
SP1176   YES      
SP1184 Type 44 (Barcrest Hot Rod) 16MHz         
SP1191 Type 37          (Needs Set 91 to enable progressive)
SP1192 Type 37          (Needs Set 91 to enable progressive)
SP1206 Type 0,1,4,5,19 10MHz   YES    ID-023   SET088/91/101/102, $0.01/0.05
SP1207 Type 2,21 10MHz         
SP1213         
SP1216         
SP1227 Type 0,1,4,5,19 10MHz      ID-023   SET088,91,101,102,116 $0.01/0.05 9 Paylines
SP1228 TYPE 20         
SP1229 Type 2,21 10MHz         
SP1240         
SP1242         
SP1249         
SP1252 Type 2,21 16MHz   YES   ID-023   
SP1253 Type 0/1/4/5/14         
SP1264         
SP1271 Type 0,1,4,5,19 10MHz   YES   ID-023   SET088,91,101,102,116,121 $0.01/0.059 Paylines
SP1272 Type 0,1,4,5 16MHz         
SP1274 Type 2,21 10MHz (Haywire/Haywire DLX)   YES   ID-023   
SP1306 Type 23 10MHz    YES   ID-023   SET088,089,090,091,101,102,116,121


here is some info from one of my lists.

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Title: Re: New slot owner need info
Post by: rickhunter on May 21, 2009, 11:45:43 PM
Yes, to change the percentage, you only need the SS prom.