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I have a Bally 6000 "Triple Paytime" machine.  It was off for about 1 month, and when I turned it on this weekend, it displayed a 88FF error code.  I tried to perform a safe ram clear using the clear chips for U48 and U43, but did not get a CL message when holding down the test and pseudo buttons on the MPU board.  After installing the clear chips and turning on the machine, nothing appeared in any of the windows on the front of the machine (all were blank).  I will admit that when I first tried I had installed both clear chips in the wrong direction.  I reversed them to the proper direction and still got no message in the display windows.  Does this mean I need a new MPU board, or did installing the clear chips in the wrong direction cause them to be corrupted?  After I tried the clear procedure a couple of times with no luck, I reinstalled the game chips and still got the 88FF error code message.

Any advice on how to correct this problem would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

The Saferam Clear chips are U28 and U43, I'm sure you meant that.  If the chips were in the wrong direction, then at least one chip would be corrupt.  On a Bally S6000 this is what happens to mains or saferam, It usually only corrupts one of the two(pretty sure the U43).  If you het a new set of clear chips you should be back in business.  I know Jim (Blueridge on NLG) has the new versions of clear chips.

Thanks,
Wayne

Thanks very much Wayne.  I was afraid that putting the clear chips in backwards might have caused them to fail.  Can Jim of Blueridge, or anyone else, help me get a new clear chip set?  Please let me know how to contact you to purchase them.

Jim can take care of this, his number is     703 730-0821   
and this is a link to his profile for his email or P.M. http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=profile;u=76 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=profile;u=76)

Thanks,
Wayne

maybe somebody can help me,  i  am starting from scrap here and my bonus frenzy bally 6000 just started the 88ff  code.   i am new to all of this so please help me where to start on this problem.  dont know what to do and where to go for help.

I got that error after my battery died.  A simple ram clear took care of it.

once again,  i am new to this.   how do you do a ram clear?  please overlook my ignorance but i dont understand how to work on these units

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ-yRz4AnYc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ-yRz4AnYc)


Thanks Wayne!

that is perfect but where do you get the clear chips from?   thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim at Blueridge slots will have them.  He has a link at the top of the page.  You can send him an email and he'll get back to you. 

thank you!!!!!!!!!

Anytime - I hope you get your machine going soon!

K+ to you Jonathan for helping out.

Thanks,
Wayne

I should mention that (as stated in the video) you will have to hold the test and pseudo coin switches while turning on the slot in order to perform a complete clear.  You will need to perform the complete clear.  Please let us know the results.

Thanks,
Wayne

K+ for you Wayne - that video is so helpful to people who are just getting started with a Bally!

 :212-  That is a very helpful video Wayne...Thanks & K+

   i finally ordered and received the u28 and u43 clear chips.  i tried the complete saferam clear but all the display says is 8100 in the win window.   any suggestions!!!!!!    this is very upsetting for me.  the video is great and very helpful.   i dont have a paper payout,  just token coins if that helps.  other than that i am lost

Isn't 81 a battery - let me look

Yer 81 is low battery voltage. So you need to replace the battery then do another ram clear.   Bally machines have their battery die all the time.   


I bet the machine was off while waiting for chips right??

Actually, according to what others have observed, the 6000 series doesn't eat batteries like the 5500 does. Of course, he still needs to change his battery.

It is true Stat that they last longer however I have had to change mine twice - where my s+ not even once. 

I've never changed a battery on my three S+'s or my Wms Dot. As far as I know, the batteries in those machines are at least 6-10 years old. My Gamemaker battery seems to be holding up well. I've had it just under two years and the battery was several years old when I bought it (based on info from the previous owner), and it's still at 3.6v.

The 5500's last one to two years, tops, and I'm being generous.

I still have s6000 machines that have been stored and have 1998 batteries that are still good.  If you had to change yours twice, I'd wonder where you get your batteries from or if there is a problem with the machine that is drawing too much power.  I did buy some batteries on ebay in the past and soon learned that even though they were brand new and dated something like 2004, they died quick.  It's much better to buy batteries that are fresh.  The batteries I now use are current from within the year. 

Happy New Year,
Wayne

hello I have a Bally S6000 (French Quarter) marked 1997 on the mpu
we used it for 1 year from time to time we have lit
88ff and the error appeared.
after changing the battery, and ordered the ram clear u28 and U43
I am clear as the ram on the video, then it marks chp
83f0 ...
I ordered the other ram (DIP8) I did the procedure and the same problem
chp 00 in credit and then again 83f0

Have you any idea??

Thank you in advance

I would think you are using older Saferam clear chips than your mains.  You can either get the current Saferam Clear chips or older mains.

Thanks,
Wayne

I should mention that (for a Complete clear) you need to hold the test and pseudo buttons while you boot the machine with the clear chip installed.

W

Thank you for your message!
I test well maintained and pseudo ...
you know where I can get the right chip?
I've tried both here http://rudysdeals.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=38&product_id=147

as you are performing the clear, the display should show chc then change to clc once complete.  If it is showing clp then it is only a partial clear.  You sometimes have to hold the test and pseudo coin pretty hard for them to work.

Thanks,
Wayne

p.s.  Jim at Blueridge usually has chips.

The problem is that the clp never comes ....
chp it and immediately after err 83f0

A partial clear with not do it. You need to do a complete clear. You should see ch C, not chP.

As Wayne said in reply #27, you might have to press the test and pseudo coin buttons quite hard for them to work. Make sure you are pressing them hard before you hit the power switch. If you're pressing them very hard and you still get a chP (P=partial clear), then BOTH* of your buttons might be bad.

*You will only get a partial clear if you turn the power on with NO buttons pressed.


ADD:

• The first letter C is always a C and never changes.
• The second letter H changes to an L after you power up and let go of the buttons to indicate that the requested clear has been performed successfully.
   (I believe that it stands for high and low states.)
• The third letter indicates the type of clear you are requesting.  C= Complete clear, F = Full clear,  P = Partial clear

Hope that clarifies things a bit.

Stat :31-

I tested with both! Err always 83f0

as in the video is 5 seconds press is released and we start
and also start with both buttons pressed

Did you ever see a CHC?

"as in the video is 5 seconds press is released and we start"

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here, but it's important to press the buttons* and HOLD them with the power OFF. Turn the machine on while you are still holding the buttons. Keep holding the buttons until you Confirm that you have CHC in the window -- NOT CHP, and then release the buttons. You should then see CLC.

If you see CHP or CHF, it means that you either didn't hold down the buttons completely or that your buttons are not working properly.


If you did get a CHC, then you might have installed a bad battery, or your CMOS chips might be bad.




* Make sure you are pressing the correct buttons: "pseudo coin" and "test".

Thank you StatFreak  :131-
for your help I followed your procedure is it works
I will not press the buttons snapping, I tried to ask Advent
but not long enough, the CHC does not display video from  jdkmunch indicates not the same procedure  :103- .

I buy the new chip are erased with just 8 dipswitch
cons by the alignment is not on the jackpot (3 BAR on top line) is this normal??

Thank you very much for your help !!!!!!

If this is an upright, then the ends of the strips should align with the pay line (1 line machines).  If not then your strips are likely in the wrong notch.

Thanks,
Wayne