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This video on You-Tube shows this machine with two row of buttons is this correct?
 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9R3zCO0qeM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9R3zCO0qeM)



Thanks,

Freebird4

freebird, usually the double row bet deck is used for the I game + and enhanced slots, one row of buttons for the number of lines played, the other row for coins bet. I'm pretty sure but not positive, especially for the 044 games that they are game/cabinet compatible meaning if you have a game king multi-game setup in a double row bet deck, probably only the front buttons will work. If you have an I game + software in a single row bet deck machine than some of the options would have to be selected on the touchscreen since you would not have that row of buttons available on the bet deck. If I am mistaken, someone please jump in here since I have not put a GK set in my I+'s yet. Of course the previous comment about 044 boards also depends on you having all boards needed for the conversion.

 Dan (tacman)

nope you are correct Dan.  we have several single hand poker games on our floor that have the 14 button panel and only the lower five hold buttons are active, along with the cashout, service, max bet, etc...

GameKing and iGames are the same machines. Their are only 2 differences. 
1) iGame software is single game software and GameKing software has mulltiple games available per software set. 
2) So, software and glass are the only differences.

Thanks,
Eric

 :103-  Aren't there also hardware differences? Different MPU boards, SIMMs vs. EPROMs? etc.. :103-  I've been trying to get up to speed on GKs now that Buzz has one, but I'm still unclear about a lot of the details.

I know that my older MPU board can only do Game King games -- I'm under the impression that if I were to buy a newer board (which fits into the same backplane) that I could then do I-Game stuff.  I know that the newer I-Game games use SIMM cards.  I don't know if there were ever any EPROM-only-based I-Game titles.

Kevin, you are correct that the 3802 board is eprom based, but it would not surprise me in the least if there were I game sets for dedicated slots that were all eprom and could be used in the 3802 as well. Seems the next step up was the 3902 board and an upgrade to Simms,, the nice thing is that the 3902 board will also accept the 3802 eprom sets if you have the first MMLB you can use the sound eproms as well. I have several GK multi-sets that are Simm based as well so the platform evolved for both GK and I Game to use the new tech. I don't know about 044 though, are there GK games on those flash boards? I don't see why not.

 Dan (tacman)

The 044 supports all (Flash and SIMM including eprom)   The I+ Enhanced games are the ones like Texas Tina etc.     Rquires the extra board that sits ontop (Flash or Eprom)  no MMLite board used or needed

The 3902 supports all I+ games, I games and GK games (either SIMM or Eprom)  Uses 2 different MMLite boards  (one SIMM, One Eprom)    Square board that sits ontop or really plugs into the 3902

The 3802 support all eprom based games,this includes GK and I games.  The early I games (before I+) were all erpoms.    Uses one type of EPROM sound board if needed (L shaped)

hope that helps everyone.

Hi All

IGT has confused the issue a bit as Game King can refer to the Multigame sw or the actual gaming platform

Game King Platform

These use the old 3802 boards and have the IO board in another tray above the main processor board - EPROM based.
The ones i have only have one row of buttons - not sure if they can accomadate a second row

Game King Enhanced Platform

These can use the 039 boards or the 044 boards - The IO boards are small plug in cards - Usually come with 2 rows of buttons

With 039 board
EPROM and SIM based. As Tacmans stated EPROM only games will work on this platform from the earlier Game King range
 
With 044 board
To upgrade to 044 you need a new processor and mother board. 044 boards have a daughter board that goes on top of the main board. There is a legacy board that takes EPROM/Sims. This was designed accomadate 039 based sw.
Alternatively it can use a card with flash memory - These can be programmed via a PC or with a special flash card programmer.


PS - Slotmaster beat me to it with some details but to lazy to edit post :>

Regards
Ian

thats ok, more info the better!

To note that only the 044 requires the backplane change. 

Hi Again

The backplane board (or mother board) is different between the Game King and the Game King enhanced.
However the 3802 and the 039 processor boards have identical connectors so i would assume that they are compatible ? - will check up on this tomorrow as i have both types in the shop at the moment.

Also note that the 039 backplane is also used in the older S2000 machines.

correct same backplane between the 039 3802

The S2000 was the same but the enh version of the s2000 is not.

Thanks to all for the great information! As always I learn alot from the Pro's here on N.L.G.!!!  :3- :3- :3-
I look forward to learning more about the Game King Plus.

Freebird4

Thanks guys! That helps to clarify things. :3-