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Title: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: twa8000 on July 15, 2009, 08:00:30 PM
Hi i got a CHAM II meter... logic board... and power supply and the cables to hooks them all up..

Im missing the piggy back board.. but im going to be getting one...

There is the one plug on the logic board that has the two black ears.. i have that wire also and it plugs right in... im assuming the other end goes to the s2000 machine some how... however the other end of my cable is just cut off.. there are three wires... red.. black.. white..

Does anyone know how to hook this up or if i need anything else? Thanks

-Tom-


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: jay on July 15, 2009, 08:23:07 PM
You need the ChamII+ board and ribbon cable to connect to the meter.
check the upload a new file section for a Mikohn ChamII manual.



Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: twa8000 on July 15, 2009, 09:56:17 PM
I have the board and cables, from the boards interface port that hooks to the s2000, I don't know the wiring for that... Is it the same as the s+ in the manual or different?

-Tom-


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: twa8000 on July 18, 2009, 06:45:05 PM
Does anyone know how the 3 wires form the interface port wires into the s2000? i know there has to be someone with this display hooked to a s2000 machine.. I have a red, white and black wire in the cable... Thanks

-Tom-


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: zarobhr on July 18, 2009, 07:29:30 PM
i will put up how mine is wired when i get home, make sure you have a cham II + (plus)


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: twa8000 on July 18, 2009, 07:32:55 PM
Thanks im pretty sure i have a Plus model. Thanks

-Tom-


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: zarobhr on July 18, 2009, 07:42:18 PM
ok on the chame J7 on the row that is away from edge is pins 1 3 5 7 9 11 13

on the motherboard of s2000 J15 on all of mine but some have said its J85, but i have never seen the J85 one. bottom is pin 1

cham pin 13 to MB pin 2
cham pin 11 to MB pin 1
cham pn 3 to MB pin 3

you will also most likely need to program the cham using the psp software and connection a pc or laptop serial port 1 or 2 only to the cham serial port

pc pin 2 to cham pin 2
pc pin 3 to cham pin 3
pc pin 5 to cham pins 1 and 5

if your lucky the psp program will mysteriously appear in the submit a new file section


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: twa8000 on July 18, 2009, 07:49:08 PM
Thanks alot.. ill try it when i get home.. the display came out of a programmed machine.. is it possible it will just work when i plug it in?

-Tom-


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: zarobhr on July 18, 2009, 07:51:32 PM
mine didnt since it was a linked progressive with other machines (all machines had same progressive amount
yours will most likely have to be redone to be standalone on the cham and linked in the s2000


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: twa8000 on July 18, 2009, 08:45:55 PM
Ok I figured out the pins... Is there a certian type of connectors that I can buy to hook these 3 wires to each pin..

-Tom-


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: zarobhr on July 18, 2009, 08:56:28 PM
i four pin cd rom audio connector works for the MB side you may have to cut of the key release
then splice to the cable you have


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: westec1 on July 18, 2009, 10:14:41 PM
The connectors that I use for the MB on S+ are from Mouser Electronics

You can find them here: 

http://ca.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?N=3408075&Keyword=571-3-640428-4&FS=True (http://ca.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?N=3408075&Keyword=571-3-640428-4&FS=True)


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: brichter on July 19, 2009, 01:27:05 AM

on the motherboard of s2000 J15 on all of mine but some have said its J85, but i have never seen the J85 one. bottom is pin 1


Here's the Vision mobo connector diagram, I believe S2000 is the same. As you stated, it's J15, there is no J85.


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: twa8000 on July 19, 2009, 02:14:23 AM
Thanks for the tip on the connector.. i just happen to have a gutted computer and that cable worked great... however no luck on getting the display to work... all it says is "$0.00" and then it says "C1"

In the options it says Progressive is disabled.. i cant enable it... i put in my Key 31 chip into the game EPROM location and when it the game boot up all it says is NETPLEX is Down... and doesnt go any further... Any ideas... i appreciate the help here alot.. thanks for bearing with me...

-Tom0


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: CaptainHappy on July 19, 2009, 06:09:33 AM
I have not tried this before, but I thought of the usual "make sure there are no credits on the machine advice."

Also did you do a NETPLEX AUTO CONFIG from the setup menu?

Just a few tired thoughts.. I am sure that someone has much better suggestions and directions.

Regards,

CaptainHappy :95-
 :nlg- ADMIN


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: jay on July 19, 2009, 09:28:37 AM
I don't know S2000 but here are a few things that may help point you in the right direction.

A ChamII+ is not a Netplex device ... on a S+ this is considered a linked progressive (even though it is standalone). I believe (not absolutely sure)  that there are Netplex progressives that integrate different than the ChamII+

The C1 is however indicitive that it is not talking to the slot specifically the data return.

The 0.00 and other values, messages etc get programmed via vi a PC running the DOS program called PSP.
Though PSP you set:
      Base Amount (the amount the progressive reverts to before after it is won) - normally this is about equal to the top award.
      Current Amount - this is any value you want but generally it is equal or above the base amount.
      Incremental percentage - I use 4% this way each quarter gets me a penny on the display .... casinos use any where between 1/8 of this ---- 8 coins = 1c to 100 coins = 1c depending on how active the progressived is.

     There are lots of other cool things to play with in PSP as well but those are the main ones..


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: Ron (r273) on July 19, 2009, 10:36:53 AM
I am trying to hook up the same thing. Does the CHAMII+ require a CON1 or CON2 to run in a S-2000? :103-

Ron


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: zarobhr on July 19, 2009, 10:43:56 AM
no it does not.

also on the progressiive setep on the cham, using the switch and buttons make sure it is in standalone


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: Ron (r273) on July 19, 2009, 11:13:40 AM
no it does not.

also on the progressiive setep on the cham, using the switch and buttons make sure it is in standalone



That clears it up for me, that's why all the settings are done with a key chip in the S-2000....... :25-

Thanks zarobhr!

Ron


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: jay on July 19, 2009, 02:02:54 PM
A CHAMII (non plus) is a link only and requires a CON2 to drive it.
A CHAMII+ can be set into linked mode and be driven from a CON2 as well.

A CON1 to the best of my knowledge can not drive a ChamII.



 


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: sommer on July 19, 2009, 05:14:13 PM
trying to hook up my cham II..
i need help on j-85 connection pin#number?is #1 from top to bottom or bottom to top?? and j-15 progressive on MB, what's that for?? i tried that j-15 connector nothing happened..
thanks
sommer


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: zarobhr on July 19, 2009, 05:16:43 PM
i have never seen the j85 only the j15 if you have j15 thats what you hook up to the cham II + , do you have cham II or Cham II +


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: sommer on July 19, 2009, 05:55:17 PM
i have never seen the j85 only the j15 if you have j15 thats what you hook up to the cham II + , do you have cham II or Cham II +
j-85 at power supply. i have cham II stand alone.  :89-


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: CaptainHappy on July 19, 2009, 05:58:21 PM
A ChamII+ is not a Netplex device ... on a S+ this is considered a linked progressive (even though it is standalone). I believe (not absolutely sure)  that there are Netplex progressives that integrate different than the ChamII+

Great point Jay, I did not pay enough attention to the CHAM II+ in the title, and I assumed it was the netplex spectrum meter because of Tom's mention of netplex. I should have looked better!  :25- :30- Thanks for catching that! :3-

CaptainHappy :95-


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: stayouttadabunker on November 12, 2009, 03:51:38 PM
sommer,
Did you get this Cham II or Cham II + to work yet? :129-


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: sommer on November 13, 2009, 01:45:35 AM
Mark,

Not yet,(too lazy) :30-. my machine was stuck at$5 denom for a long time.finally got the Clear chip,Thanks to Buzz, Ashyron.



I'm looking for instruction,how to set up Cham2 stand alone progressive S2000~[ 7 Key Chip Config] 7.1  7.2  7.3  7.4 ?,?, use Key31. :103-

Thanks

Sommer



Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: stayouttadabunker on November 13, 2009, 01:56:35 AM
for some reason, dunno why, I heard it was a key chip 17 combined with an SG000363 to help accomplish that?
or am I thinking of all the multi-denomination S2000 topics lately?


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: sommer on November 13, 2009, 02:10:50 AM
Hmmm.I been using key chip31,i have mult donom. SG363. i have key17 but they don't work. i'm not 100%sure,do you needed the key chip to set up Cham2.


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: stayouttadabunker on November 13, 2009, 02:18:19 AM
I played with a ChamII all day today trying to figure it out...
I got it to work on a S+ and it increments perfectly...I set it to add .01 cent for every quarter played.
But I'm having a bloody time trying to get it to work on my S2000 though...
I'll update ya with my progress...


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: Foster on November 13, 2009, 02:45:36 AM
Stout,
Key chip
Progressive
Level 1: Link
Be aware if you do not have the Cham II+ wired correctly and the communications set properly, the S2000 will stay in Progressive link down tilt until you do.
There are 2 progressive connection points on the S2000 motherboard and the comm board. I used one on the motherboard.
Yes the S2000 wants to know the progressive value all the time. I do not know how often the cham II+ sends it but it keeps the S2000 happy.
Depending on which MPU and game chips you have you may have to have 2.11 SA firmware on the Cham II+ I have been lucky with 2.07 with a 501 and 502 MPU
Recommend using Game 363 unless you want to key chip every time you change a base or SS reel chip.


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: stayouttadabunker on November 13, 2009, 02:57:18 AM
Okay, great info Foster! K+ to you and thank you so very much for this help!  :89- :89-
I'll only be able to get back to it next week but I'll post my results later on...


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: stormrider on November 13, 2009, 09:13:30 AM
Just a side note for anyone programing a cham2 + in a S2000
if you get progressive link down on the S2000 display you have to change
F8 setting in jackpot programming in the psp to MS08 for IGT.
I found that out last time I did a S2000 Tabasco


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: stayouttadabunker on November 13, 2009, 02:08:21 PM
thanks Storm!
I'll work on it soon but I might be doing the shuffle to buffalo tomorrow morning to the Niagara Caz.


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: stormrider on November 13, 2009, 02:40:14 PM
thanks Storm!
I'll work on it soon but I might be doing the shuffle to buffalo tomorrow morning to the Niagara Caz.

Cool...I'll be there meeting up with Thor777

Tim


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: sommer on November 15, 2009, 04:41:55 AM
Finally,Got my Progressive display working! gotta love that~S2000, :208-
BtW:top display!They're not duel lever Progressive, 2 chamII.     

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4bloTuKqyc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4bloTuKqyc)


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: stayouttadabunker on November 15, 2009, 04:54:47 AM
That is fabulous Sommer! :3- :3-
When you get a chance,  while it's still fresh in your mind - Can you try to explain
in some detail,  how this was done for the future?
It would be fantastic to save this topic as a reference as to how this is done... :89-
Again, I must repeat myself, I think you did a great job!!!


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: sommer on November 29, 2009, 07:54:38 PM
I'm pushing for the Jackpots.made an auto play, just wanted to see the progressive working in action. :25-
just bought these games from slot master last month,still in my family room.now it all apart,miss match glass et,
PS,I'm still don't know how i did it,the progressive setting,still screw up,only working on one denom. :25- :30-
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPoRT2ZYDUs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPoRT2ZYDUs)


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: stayouttadabunker on November 29, 2009, 08:28:20 PM
lolololo I like doing that too...
guys come up to my room and see everything running at once...
looks like a nightmare!
The auto-play switch allows us to do that and it's a blast to use when
you have like 4 or 5 machines all feeding one progressive sign...
makes the odometer spin like nuts... :72-
All I need is a couple of ambulance lights, streamer and confetti cannons going off!


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: Ron (r273) on December 11, 2009, 04:37:38 PM
I put a multi-denomination button on my Tabasco game that has a ChamII+.
Now it does not increment. Do I need to change a setting in the PSP file?


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: stormrider on December 11, 2009, 04:51:05 PM
I put a multi-denomination button on my Tabasco game that has a ChamII+.
Now it does not increment. Do I need to change a setting in the PSP file?

I think it only increments on whatever you set the main denomination at
so if the machine is set for 25c the display should increment and the other values
the display would shut off.Im not aware of any setting in the psp maybe in the S2000 menu itself
Don't think I ever saw this subject touched on  before running multi demon
with progressive working on all denominations.


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: Ron (r273) on December 11, 2009, 06:16:49 PM
I put a multi-denomination button on my Tabasco game that has a ChamII+.
Now it does not increment. Do I need to change a setting in the PSP file?

I think it only increments on whatever you set the main denomination at
so if the machine is set for 25c the display should increment and the other values
the display would shut off.Im not aware of any setting in the psp maybe in the S2000 menu itself
Don't think I ever saw this subject touched on  before running multi demon
with progressive working on all denominations.

I have it set for .25, .50, $1.00 and $2.00. It does not increment on any of them. ??

Ron (r273)


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: Foster on December 11, 2009, 06:26:26 PM
You would have to enable it for each denom in your 7.3 menu's.

The only thing is the cham II does not know when you change denominations on the machine.
So whatever increment you have in PSP would not change.
My suggestion is to pick a increment that is the mean or average of the four increments you would like to use.


Title: Re: Cham II in a S2000
Post by: Ron (r273) on December 11, 2009, 08:59:54 PM
You would have to enable it for each denom in your 7.3 menu's.

The only thing is the cham II does not know when you change denominations on the machine.
So whatever increment you have in PSP would not change.
My suggestion is to pick a increment that is the mean or average of the four increments you would like to use.


Resetting the increment might be my problem. Right now it is set real high @ .10 for each .25 coin in.  :5-

Ron (r273)