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Title: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: keith on July 31, 2009, 01:07:05 AM
does any one have this glass in round top or a 9" please let me know
thanks
keith




MODERATOR: Changed subject and moved from the classified section after the ad expired as the thread contains interesting information about the history of the Blazing Sevens theme.  SF :31-


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: StatFreak on July 31, 2009, 05:52:22 AM
Interesting.. I didn't know that Bally made a direct clone of IGT's MAG 7. :128-

I hope someone has one to sell you. :71-


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: slots4home on July 31, 2009, 12:36:04 PM
I think I have it in my storage. I know I have the 16 " but I may have the Roundtop. I will let you know this evening
Darell


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: a69mopar on July 31, 2009, 05:14:25 PM
Interesting.. I didn't know that Bally made a direct clone of IGT's MAG 7. :128-

I hope someone has one to sell you. :71-

Maybe IGT cloned Ballys....


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: ashyron on August 02, 2009, 06:29:28 AM
does any one have this glass in round top or a 9" please let me know
thanks
keith

I have a RT piece that is similar but it's blue and I think it's 1 to 4 coins.  Darn, wish I could have helped. :37- :37-


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: a69mopar on August 02, 2009, 08:11:14 AM
does any one have this glass in round top or a 9" please let me know
thanks
keith

the pic posted is of a 4 coin, and I think the colour is off in the pic, I think it is Blue.  The 4th coin pay is the 8000 coin Jackpot.

W

I have a RT piece that is similar but it's blue and I think it's 1 to 4 coins.  Darn, wish I could have helped. :37- :37-


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: StatFreak on August 02, 2009, 08:20:24 AM
does any one have this glass in round top or a 9" please let me know
thanks
keith

I have a RT piece that is similar but it's blue and I think it's 1 to 4 coins.  Darn, wish I could have helped. :37- :37-

I agree with Wayne, Ron. The game is a three-coin multiplier with a 4th coin bonus. It sounds like you might have what he needs if your glass is Bally (and not IGT, which is basically black) and if you're willing to part with it. Post a pic. :89-


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: ashyron on August 02, 2009, 08:39:13 AM
I was on my way to bed but thought I would post these pics first.  I highly doubt this is the same glass but here are some pics.

BTW, the glass is dirty, not been washed. 



Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: ashyron on August 02, 2009, 08:42:25 AM
Also, this has a different top to it than IGT has.  See for yourself.  I'm more than willing to part with it, heck, that's why I bought it, but don't know what to sell it for.

Here's a couple more pics.  ALso, there is the number that's on it plus a couple little nicks in it, like most glass these days.


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: StatFreak on August 02, 2009, 09:14:54 AM
It's the same game and is for a Bally, it just has different artwork (including the symbol designs).
Well, now that you've posted the pictures, Keith can decide if he wants it or not. :71-

K+ for taking the pictures Ashyron.


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: Slottex on August 02, 2009, 01:18:20 PM
Bally made this game in 2 versions Magnificent 7s with 4th coin bonus & Blazing 7s 4th coin bonus. I have it in the Blazing 7s version. Both are 3 line pay glass.

SMI - 7557
        7558
        7559
        7560

Frank in Las Vegas has it in the Blazing 7s version. He has the Magnificent 7s only in 1 line 3 coin No Bonus ! The 4th coin is s fun game to play!

Hope this helps


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: uniman on August 02, 2009, 01:23:29 PM
Interesting.. I didn't know that Bally made a direct clone of IGT's MAG 7. :128-

I hope someone has one to sell you. :71-

Maybe IGT cloned Ballys....

Now just holdon there.  :81-
Maybe IGT cloned Ballys who cloned it from Universal!!   :72- :72- :72-
I know Universal created their version in 1989.


Or maybe IGT cloned it from Ballys and Universal, then copywrited it, then sued.  :97- :97-     Just kidding!!!


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: a69mopar on August 02, 2009, 01:47:48 PM
I'm pretty sure Bally had a 4 reel version called Magnificent 7s in the early 80s, not sure when they changed it to 3 reel.

W


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: uniman on August 02, 2009, 02:05:47 PM
Universal's most popular game was called Magnificent 7's too! Developed in 1985. IGT using the same payout scheme came out with Sizzling 7's.
I bet both Universal and IGT took names from Bally's earlier EM games.


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: a69mopar on August 02, 2009, 03:03:42 PM
A couple things, then an article(at the bottom) that states the Blazing 7's was inspired by Universal Magnificent 7's,
 1) i did a search and came up with this link re Bally 1983 copyright Magnificent 7's http://www.arcade-history.com/index.php?page=database&listtypes=all&lemot=&annee=all&editeur=683&genre1=&keyword1=&gallery=&position=18 (http://www.arcade-history.com/index.php?page=database&listtypes=all&lemot=&annee=all&editeur=683&genre1=&keyword1=&gallery=&position=18)

2)  Bally made a variety of different artwork for each theme, the colour could vary as well as symbol size etc, as well as the glass dimension 9", 16" etc.
 The glass in the pics (Ron's) is: Glass number on bottom right corner = G609-00217-++++   Artwork = MJ7-5003  Game = Magnificent 7's, Coin Pays

here are a few examples og the same game with different art work
G609-00217-++++   MJ7-5003  Magnificent 7's, Coin Pays
G609-00277-PROG   MJ7-5005  Blue Magnificent 7's
G609-00277-++++   MJ7-5005  Blue Magnificent 7's, Coin Pays
G609-00277-12MI   MJ7-5005  Blue Magnificent 7's, Coin Pays
G609-00277-MYST  MJ7-5005  Blue Magnificent 7's, Coin Pays
G609-00277-SP++  MJ7-5005  Blue Magnificent 7's, Spanish, Coin Pays

Thanks,
 Wayne

Blazing 7's - What makes this game a classic -- and why it has lasted two decaded

Strictly Slots - Hall of Fame Article, April 2006 Issue
by Frank Legato

It was in the early years of the electronic, virtual-reel slot machine that Bally Gaming (then Bally Manufacturing) came up with the reel-spinner that would save the slot-maker, several times over. Bally was on the decline in 1987, having diversified beyond fiscal efficiency in the early '80s to the point where it's one-time stranglehold on the slot manufacturer, International Game Technology. However, it would be games such as this month's Hall of Fame entry that would revive Bally, and keep it moving all the way into the 21st century. Bob Manz had started with Bally in Chicago in 1970, and was a project manager in the engineering department before moving to Las Vegas in 1983 to work exclusively in game design. After working on Bally's first generation of electronic slot machines, Manz was in the thick of developing games for what was to be the prototype of the classic Bally electronic slot, the E2000 series, when he completed work on a game that was to define the classic reel-spinning genre, for Bally and countless imitators: Blazing 7s

The concept was simple: Players likes to see winning "7" combinations; let's place several in the pay schedule. Bally rival Universal had used this concept first in a game called "Magnificent 7s," which had red 7s and blue 7s (the top jackpot), with an extra pay table win for mixed 7s. It was a three-coin buy-a-pay game, with the first coin activating bar and cherry combinations, the second coin multiplying those jackpots, and the third coin activating the "7" combinations. Magnificent 7s did moderately well for Universal, but wasn't a smash hit-and like other Universal games, it disappeared after manufacturer's so-called "near-miss" method of mapping reel results in the virtual program (lots of losing combinations that led players to believe they "almost" won, such as 7-7-blank) was outlawed by regulatory authorities. Manz was to take the "7" concept and apply some serious math to it- a mathematics program that would make it the most popular Bally reel-spinner of the modern age. There was some tinkering at the bottom of the pay table- the first coin bought the bar wins and three blanks were added as a paying combination; the second coin activated two of the three "7" combinations and the third coin activated the top jackpot. But the slam-dunk change would come at the top of the pay table, not only in the program math but in the art-work. The secondary "7" symbol was a red 7, but Manz added fire to the image of the 7 for the top jackpot. ("The reason I put fire underneath the 7s was to represent a hot slot," Manz says.) All "7" wins were generous, Mixed 7s paid 150 coins at max bet. Red 7s paid 300 coins. The top Blazing 7s combination pays 1,000 coins- $1,000 on a dollar machine; $250 in quarters. The kicker? It hit. A lot.

"I designed it to be a gambling slot machine," says Manz, who is now vice president of game content for Class II slot supplier Rocket Gaming. "The hit frequency wasn't the best on it but a player could win a jackpot every 4,096 plays on a 32-stop machine. If you put 10 Blazing 7s games together with an average of 10 plays per minute On each game, you will see a jackpot every 30 minutes on one of those machines. That's what made it so popular." Banks of Blazing 7s games became focal points of casinos- crowded areas in which reel-spinning was often punctuated by the excitement of a jackpot, and in which players jockeyed for a position at one of the machines. "I gave the gambler a fair shake at winning the jackpot," Manz says, " and that's why this game was first designed in 1987 and it is still Bally's top-earning slot." Not only has it had nearly 19 years of legs, but Blazing 7s has served as the model for countless new Bally games, from reel-spinners multiplying the "7" combinations like Double Blazing 7s and Triple Blazing 7s to multiple pay-line games like Diamond Line 7s, to more modern offerings like Bonus Times and Roaring 20s in the ProSlot Series. High-end games like Monte Carlo, the latest video slots like Hot Shot Progressives�all of them start with the Blazing 7s model. For years, the list of the top -10 most popular slot games in the United States, measured by earnings, has included one constant from Bally, and it is the simple reel-spinner with the fiery 7 combinations and the frequent top jackpots. Before leaving Bally in 1993, Manz designed many other successful slots, including classics like Black and White. But Blazing 7s is his legacy.


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: uniman on August 02, 2009, 03:39:41 PM
That's a nice piece of history. Thanks for posting!  :89-
But I have a few corrections. The article states Universal Magnificent 7's had Bars and Cherries activated with one coin. Uni Mag-7's has/had no cherries. They paid for Blank-Blank-Blank.
And Legato appears to give Manz credit for the Blank-Blank-Blank payoff.??
Here is a pic of my 1995 Universal Magnificent 7's. So they didn't just disappear. (Using 256 stop virtual reels they almost duplicated the near-miss feature with several hits next to the 7's)
added;
And, despite Universal being out of business since 2001, there is still a bank of Magnificent 7's at Circus Circus. I counted fourteen last visit. As they breakdown they replace them with Ballys version.

But the flaming 7 is a slot icon. One thing Universal never did and they're not around anymore. hmmm


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: keith on August 02, 2009, 07:15:20 PM
ashyron do you have the bottom glass to go with it
heres another pic i found of it


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: keith on August 02, 2009, 07:20:29 PM
wayne i think that was you talking about the blazing 7 version i love to play it but i only seen a few of them i know harrahs has 1 and the flamingo has 2 of them


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: ashyron on August 02, 2009, 08:43:59 PM
ashyron do you have the bottom glass to go with it
heres another pic i found of it

I am not at home right now but I don't think I do.  There are a couple bundles of glass I haven't been able to look in yet.  I'll get back to you and post if I do when I get home.  Thanks for the pic too, that gives me something to look at while looking throuhg the bundles.

Ron


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: a69mopar on August 02, 2009, 09:28:25 PM
wayne i think that was you talking about the blazing 7 version i love to play it but i only seen a few of them i know harrahs has 1 and the flamingo has 2 of them

(http://newlifegames.net/nlg/profile_pictures/186_1245109938.jpg)

this is a 1500 coin jackpot Blazing 7's(s6000 with Pro SoundII), I have had the 4 coin version(picture below) that others mentioned also, and likely have one in storage.

Thanks,
Wayne


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: a69mopar on August 03, 2009, 12:17:00 AM
My brother in law just hit the jackpot on one of my Blazing 7's progressive machines, I uploaded a video, see this post http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=55.msg33045#msg33045 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=55.msg33045#msg33045)

Thanks,
Wayne


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: keith on August 03, 2009, 01:32:04 AM
yeah the 4 coin one was what i was talking about


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: ashyron on August 03, 2009, 04:24:55 AM
ashyron do you have the bottom glass to go with it
heres another pic i found of it

Searching through what I have, I don't have the belly glass for this.  :37- :37-  I have a couple of other Bally RT glass but no bottoms to go with it.   :8- :8- Sorry I couldn't be more help.  The only other ones I have in Bally is pictured below.


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: keith on August 08, 2009, 01:50:01 AM
hey guys thanks for the help looking for the glass i need :3-
no luck with finding what i need so if any one comes across it let me know.
thanks again  :131-
keith


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: ashyron on August 08, 2009, 02:03:54 AM
Keith, I have an email in to my friend to see if he happens to have the belly glass for the blue or the upper piece for the red.  I should know by tomorrow.  Don't hold your breathe though, cause if you hold it that long, tomorrow might not come  :97-


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: keith on August 08, 2009, 02:22:51 AM
lol yeah i know what you meen
the belly glass your talking about goes with this top right?


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: ashyron on August 08, 2009, 02:32:14 AM
Yea, that's the top.  I asked him if he has the belly glass for it.   :103-


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: keith on August 08, 2009, 02:35:17 AM
ok just checking to make sure hope he has it  :3-
thanks
keith


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: ashyron on August 08, 2009, 03:18:54 AM
Keith, I have an image, a premination if you will, of someone with blue lips.  :103-  Are you holding your breathe?? :72- :72-  Oh wait, nevermind, that's not you, that's me, I'm cold.  OK, back to your regular scheduled surfing. :97- :97-


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: ashyron on August 08, 2009, 04:49:26 PM
 :88-  Keith, I got an email bak and he doesn't have either piece of glass.  :60- :60-  I know he doesn't have much glass but thought I would try anyway.  Sorry I couldn't help more.



Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: keith on August 08, 2009, 06:15:07 PM
thanks any way  :3-


Title: Re: Some info on the history of Blazing Sevens
Post by: ashyron on August 08, 2009, 07:47:58 PM
I'll keep an eye out still.  Maybe we will run past it somewhere.