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I just picked up my first IGT S+, and it has a DBV-200.  The problem is that it doesn't want to work in the game.

When I boot the game the transport gears move, then they stop.  The game boots up and plays fine but the DBV acts like it's dead, it won't even try to feed a bill.  The illuminated panel above the bill slot on the door doesn't light up at all during or after the game boots.  The validator is enabled in the game test menu.  The front panel does light up in the lamp test.  The validator wires are plugged into the J6 connector.

I removed the cash box and ran the DBV 'bill registry without stacker' test.  It fed a bill past the head and all the way into the transport until the leading edge of the bill was just shy of the transport exit, in other words the entire bill was inside the transport.  Is that the correct result from that test, or should the bill pass all the way through the transport and drop into the vacant area where the cash box should be?  The illuminated panel was flashing during the test, so I know that works.  I believe it was giving 4 flashes after reading in the bill.

I did the 'bill registry with stacker' test, and it didn't work.  I'll have to do it again, as my fuzzy memory can't remember exactly what the results were.  

The transport gear appears to be hanging down low enough when I look at it with the cash box out.  I've read all the posts about making sure the two points in the back of the transport fit in the recesses, and I think I've got them in there.  I'm pretty sure the transport gear is fully engaged with the cash box, although I can't tell for certain due to not being able to see back there when the cash box is inserted.  

What should I try next?

If the DBV's display lights don't come on then I think it might be in your options settings
or the DBV chip version could be the wrong one perhaps?
I'm not the top DBV200 guy here but I'm sure some of our DBV experts will chime in soon.
I hope we can get your DBV up and running again! :89-
Post all the numbers you see on the DBV and also the dip switch settings (whether they're on or off)
for them to help ya figure out what's wrong.
They also need to know what kind of MPU board you have in the machine (Does it have the little blue knob on top?)
Some MPU boards have dip switches that need to set correctly too.
Post the SP and SS chip numbers too...that'll help on know which PSR they'll need to refer to as far a option settings set up.

I just tried to turn on bill acceptor tilt, but it wouldn't let me change it from 0.

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Game: Money Storm
Motherboard: 10mhz with blue volume pot
Chips:
G926
SP779
SS3732
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DBV-200 B123
Socketed EPROM:
DBV-200-SS
ID 022/023 USA IGT
V 2.60-04-03 (65 BE)
All DIP's are off

Hello!

Are you using a SET chip to change this setting?  This setting requires a SET chip to change and also you can not have any credits on the machine....

Dan #2

I didn't realize you need the set chip to change that, and I don't have one yet.  I just went back to the game, and noticed that the bill acceptor menu options make the 'spin reels' button light go out.  This must be because you need the set chip to change those settings.  I just learned something new!

I just retried the bill registry with stacker test.  The results are that the front panel light flashes until I turn off dip# 6.  At that point the flashing stops and it will not read a bill, just like when it's in 'normal' game mode. 

I also turned the game on with the cash box removed.  It definately makes different noises, as the gears run for a longer time before stopping.  I then put the box in and the gears started up, so it seems to have known that I inserted the box.  I also forgot to mention that the door switch has been disabled, but I understand that's common.

I just unplugged J6 and booted the game, and it acted exactly the same as it does with it plugged in.  I've verified continuity in the wires, so could it be the the motherboard has a problem with that connector?  How about the motherboard thinking it's not enabled, even though the setting is turned on?

Any suggestions on what I should try next? 

I just separated the mechanical part of the cash box, and manually held it up to the back of the opening.  I then turned the game on, and it cycled with the same sounds as when the entire cash box is inserted.  This way I could see what's happening inside the box.  What I saw is that the pusher plate moved in and out, so I'm pretty sure that's what's happening when the complete box is in there.  All gears are engaging, the plate moves and everything seems OK but the light on the door doesn't come on and it won't feed any bills in.

At this point I'm stumped on what to do next.  I could try to find someone in my area with a DBV-200 who would let me swap parts in my or their machine to see if the problem lies with the DBV or the game.  I could just buy a set chip and try to turn off the acceptor, then turn it back on.

Does anybody have any other ideas?

I'm still trying to learn how to navigate the menu system.  The results I get when checking the denomination don't seem to make sense.

Coins Played shows '6'
Winner Paid shows '500'   
Nothing shows in Credits.

Shouldn't the denomination show in Credits?

I ordered a set and clear chip, but now I'm thinking it may be the cash box door switch.  I have a solid green wire off the motherboard connectors that is then shrink wrapped to a green with blue stripe.  That wire simply ends near reel #3 with a red quick connect.  I'm not sure what colors the wires should be, or where they may be. 

This is the last issue I need to fix to make this game 100 percent working.

You might want to download Rons Simplified guide to the S+ PSRs. Its not all inclusive of every chip but it covers a lot of ground, and when your done using that in conjunction with a actual PSR you will be an expert in the menus. Its an Excel sheet within a zip and you can find it in the upload area.

I would wait for your set chip, before we start mucking with wires that do appear to be connected.

Do you have a cash can ? - you cant accept bills without a cash can.

I've got Ron's guide and the PSR for my machine.  I think I'm getting confused by trying to look at Ron's guide and my PSR at the same time, and loosing my place in the menus.  A little more practice and I should get it.

The cash can is there, and appears to be working fine.  The transport gear is engaging with the cash can gear, and everything seems to cycle fine on boot up.  The darn thing just won't even try to feed a bill, and the front panel lights don't turn on.  It's like it's disabled, but it shows enabled in the menus.  Running the 'bill test without stacker' works perfectly, so I know the head is fine.  When in test mode it also lights the front panel light.

It was this way when I got it, so at least I know I didn't do anything to cause it.  I'm pretty much stumped.  With any luck it just needs a clear and setup.

You previously stated that the BV setting is at 0 and you can't change it.  With the set chip you can, and the bv wont work unless that setting is changed.  Personally, I would also change the SP779 chip to a newer chip such as SP1274, the game plays a little quicker, which I like better.

Thanks,
Wayne


here is your sp779 setting instructions.
SELF TEST MODE
Pressing the self test switch or the Bet One Credit player switch “pages” forward through the self test mode, and pressing the Play Max Credits player switch pages backward.  Changes or selections in the options pages may be made by pressing the Change switch or turning the jackpot reset key.  The self test pages appear in the following order:

Accounting System
Communication Type   Determines the communication type on channel A (DCS port).  Options are none {0}, Bally’s serial SDS (XMISER) {1}, or IGT SAS (Standard and EFT) {2}.

Communication
Address <0>   This page is displayed only if the communication type is SAS.  When using the SAS protocol, a machine address is required to distinguish one machine from another.  The valid address range is {001} to {127}.
WAMM/CCOM

Address <0>   WAMM/CCOM is always installed on channel B  (printer port).  This page allows the setting of the CCOM address.  The valid address range is {00} to {63}.  Once the valid range is selected, the new value must be saved by pressing the change switch.  A bell will sound when the new address is accepted.
Player Selectable

Credit <0> [5]   Options are standard credit or noncredit{0}, player initiated credit {1} and player initiated noncredit {2}.

Mechanical Bell <0> [6]   Options are ring on all pays {0} or ring on hand–pays only {1}.

Drop–Door Switch
Enable/Disable <0> [7]   This page is always displayed, but can only be programmed under the following conditions:  if there is no communication, if the communication type is XMISER or WAMM, or if the communication type is SAS with a zero mini system address.  (The drop door option is automatically enabled with a non-zero SAS mini system address).  Options are enabled {1} or disabled {0}.  If enabled, opening the drop (cash) door causes the door open candle to flash at twice the door open rate, and the number of times the drop door is opened will be displayed in the statistical data mode.

Bill Acceptor
Pay Mode <0> [8]   This option can be set so that bills are always converted to credits on the machine {1}, or to follow the player selected credit {0}.  If set to follow the player selected credit, bills will be converted to credits if the player has selected the credit mode, or paid from the hopper if the player has selected the noncredit mode.

Bill Acceptor Enabled/Disabled
 Display <0> [9]   Indicates if the bill acceptor is enabled {1} or disabled {0}.

Bill acceptor is set to 1, but bill acceptor tilt is set to 0 and won't let me change it without the set chip.  I wanted to turn tilt on so I would get an error messsage to help figure out why it isn't working.

I must have missed that.  I never turn on the tilt as I like the game to be able to play without the BV when I pull it.  Are you sure the software is as you listed earlier.  With the wrong software, or the wrong protocol(id022/id023) setting it will cycle upon start, but wont pull bills.

sp779
Bill Acceptor   Acceptor model is jurisdiction-dependent, and uses bill validator software protocol version 2.5.  Acceptable bill denominations are $1, $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100.  The following exceptions are reported to SAS:  cashbox removed, stacker jammed, hardware malfunction, cashbox installed, cashbox full, bill rejected, and reverse bill detected.  Use the set-chip to enable/disable the bill acceptor.


here is a dbv200 manual with the setting of the dips for protocol id022 or 023

Thanks, I found the DBV manual and already tried changing the ID from 23 to 22 via dip switch# 10 - no dice.

Ok  some one smarter than I could put up a link to this thread but I don't know how.  How to turn on Bill acceptor WBA 11 on S+  Dec 10 2008      look close at Pic in reply #35 posted by Dan 2 ( do not look at the Pic of the big titted gal shooting the Bow and arrow )  I know this one isn't a WBA but neither was that one.

Thanks for finding that post Buzz. The second part of the thread was on the wrong board, too, so I split out the two topics and moved them to the appropriate Bill Validator boards.

Here is the link to the post that you found. It is now Reply 23. How to turn on Bill Acceptor DBV200 on S+ FIXED IT Thanks Reply 23 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4226.msg8620#msg8620)



<EDIT> Split the old thread into two and moved each to the appropriate Bill Validator board.

David  I've looked for that thread so many times that I put it in my Favorites.  I guess I just remember the bitch of a time I had reinstalling my first DBV

Grab the link above and add it to your favorites. Your old link won't work right anymore (It might go to the first part of the thread, which is now another, shorter thread).

The first part is still called ...WBA 11 ... and is in the WBA board of the validators. The second part is now called ... DBV200... and is in the DBV board of the bill validators.

I'm sorry - I looked. The Devil made me do it.  >:D  It's a good job she's using one of those short compound bows, otherwise she'd need some Amazon surgery! :8-

Uh... what were we talking about again?

The bow is pointed in the right direction...as well as other things... :96-

man that picture is really distracting, isn't it?... :72-

I'm sorry, did you post something? :103- :30-

you know the people on this site are just like my kids, they just won't listen. you tell them something for thier own good and ect,ect ect

You know how it is with kids: they do listen, and then go off and do exactly what they want anyway, which is usually the opposite of whatever you said. :25-
..I think I need to take up archery.. :96- :30-


<EDIT> It occurred to me that we need to preserve this, uh, 'educational', avatar so that future readers will also know the joys of archery. :79- :97- :97-

$100 to the first man to find a bow in this picture! :5- (Just kidding. There is no bow. :72-)

(http://i30.tinypic.com/egsevd.jpg)

Hmm   I just never thought of Op-Bell as being a KID   but what the hell do I know I'm just  a truck driver, I'm not suppose to be smart !!  :103- :103- :103- :25- :25-

I just used the set chip, and the denomination was definately hosed.  I set it to 25, and now the validator comes on and feeds bills.  It holds them in for several seconds, then rejects them.  Searching the board makes me think it's a communication issue.  I changed the dip switch# 10, but no change.  

I'm soooo close!

"...the denomination was definitely hosed"...you mean it was at "0"?

This is what I got before the set chip:
Coins Played shows '6'
Winner Paid shows '500'   
Nothing shows in Credits.

After:
Coins Played shows '6'
Winner Paid shows nothing   
Credits shows '25'.

I just wiggled the 6 pin connector, and the validator cycled.  I've wiggled it before thinking it might be a bad connection, but it didn't cause anything.  I've already metered the wires, but I wonder if the terminals inside the connector are too wide or maybe the solder holding the connector to the PCB is cracked.  I'll have to take a look at that next.

Did you check this post of mine about the tabs in the back??

Dan #2

Problem solved! 

Once I decided that changing from the slot machine hobby to archery would be giving up, I decided to start work on the game again.

I performed a system clear, then reset the validator and denomination - SUCCESS!

As mentioned in my post above, I had an odd value in the denomination setting.  Although using the set chip to fix the denomination back to .25 got the validator to at least light up and feed bills, it would just reject them after 4 or 5 seconds.  I had bought both a set and clear chip, so today I used the clear chip and then the set chip.  This fixed the validator!  So the odd value in the denomination setting should have signified to me that there might have been other odd values hanging around in the RAM.

Thanks to everyone here for offering suggestions!  I was chasing my tail thinking it was a problem with the validator, cash box door switch or harness.  Turns out it was the simple solution that I should have tried as soon as I received the set and clear chips.

Tom

Glad you got it up and running. :3-  Thanks for letting us know how you fixed it. :89-

Ron

I know this is an old topic But she really is stunning to look at And I think she should know that.   Just a bit off topic huh

I have somewhat of the same problem, BV won't lite up, and my set chip won't show the A-0 after pressing the reset button.
only have one machine with BV so I can't try the chip on another machine. I did try another main board, no lite and nothing with the set chip, also tried the clear chip on both boards,,same result, no A-0. 
P.S. It did lite up and would pull the bill in and then spit it back out, thats when I tried the clear chip and set chip thing,,,so I know the BV works,,jst can't turn it on,,,shows 9-0
any sugestions,,thanks

5 line red white and blue
SS 4471
SP 731

Is the game otherwise working accept for the bv.    And are you saying you cant get the display window to show your chip numbers ?

After pressing test button it should show  9 - 0       I don't think you will find a set chip that will display  A - 0   :25- :25-

the game works fine, no BV,,shows 9-0,,not 9-1..all the reset functions work fine,
my clear chip also works,
the rectangle would lite up before and would pull bills in and spit them back out after a few seconds,
figured I would try the BV set chip to see if it would correct the problem. cleared all credits,
I pulled the game chip(U52) and put in my set chip and nothing happens,
the instructions I have say to press the reset button and it will display A-0 in the coins played window, and 9-0 will show in the winner paid window.  press the spin reels button and it will change to 9-1.
nothing happens when I power up the machine with the set chip in place.

I also borred a friend set chip to try,,,same result,,,
but his chips are in the same case and labled the same as mine,,
I have another set coming, will post results.
thanks

This is and IGT S+ machine correct? No display on the S+ shows letters for any reason. What game chip do you have in it?

You are not programing a couple of steps. When you get 9-1 press white test button 1 time, display should read 0 push Spin Reels until display changes to the coin denomination that you want, then push test button to save settings. install game eprom and BV should work.

denomination must be set first then the BV

W

yes, it is an S+
5 line red white and blue
SS 4471
SP 731

ran the clear chip,,set demon. to .25
ran the set chip and I get no display

I got a new #15 set chip.
the 9-0 finely showed up,,set it to 9-1
set the coin denom.(6) to $.025.
press the reset button again, to set the denom.
turn off machine, change set chip to game chip,
turn on machine and the BV rectangle lite is now on. :)
it's a 5 cm and smallest bill it takes is a $10.
it's also an older BV and only takes older bills,,
I tried a $5 to see if it would take it a then spit it back out.
yes it did.:)
I left the machine powered up and went it find an old bill, (about an hour)
when I came back the BV lite was off,:(
put the set chip back in and it still showed 9-1,
the denomination (6) was at 0, changed it to 25
press the reset to lock in settings,
replaced the game chip,,no BV lite,
tried the clear chip and set chip route a couple times,
no luck,:(
leaving it unpluged for a while to test a heat thing,
I am getting closer, and more frustrated,,
thanks for all the help,,,

Depending on your setting for maximum credits, it's possible that the machine is disabling the bill validator until it can accept a bill and not push it over its maximum credit setting.

For simplicity of testing, cash out the machine and then see if the "insert bills" bezel lights up.

as it turned out, the BV was half put in correctly and took 3 bills to pop it out of place,
pulled the cash box and checked for the gear protruding in the rear left ,,HUMM not there,
reinstalled the BV (into the 2 holes at the rear) and it's all good,
thanks for all the help...