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I acquired, (for free!), an IGT RWB slant top reel machine. I managed to clear a couple coin hopper error codes, but, I still can't get the machine to function properly. The white light on the tower stays lit no matter what I do to clear it. Upon powering up, I get a flashing "263" then "10" on my credits display. The machine does not reset with key, power down or test switch. I'm not sure if this is an M series or not. It has a date of 1/95 and model#GC36CPI.  Any help would be appreciated!   :99-

95' would probably make this an S+
Did you try pressing the Change Light on the button deck to get the light to turn off.
Some pics of the MPU board would help.
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Most likely the 263 10 is 263 coins paid 10 coins won on last game

Yes, I did try pressing the light buttons, no go. I'll try to take some pic's and post them in the next day or so. (at work now).
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Silly question, but is the "Insert Coins" light lit up with the door closed, and have you tried dropping a coin in?  (I think it's an S+, too.)

Not silly at all. So far the evidence is that the machine is functioning normally. The display is indicating that the last payout was 10 coins and the cashout was 263, and the candle light indicates that the door was previously opened, a tilt condition that won't clear until one complete game is played. It sounds like the machine is ready to play. :71-

Yes, I tried dropping coins in and the bill collector as well, no luck in either case. No insert coin light lit.
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No, the coins do not register, they just pass straight thru to the tray. I'll try the slam test when I get off work. Thanks

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That's funny you say that. The original error was a coin hopper error, turns out someone put a Susan B. Anthony dollar coin in the machine and it was jammed in the coin chute! I tried changing out the quarter in the coin comparater but still no difference. The bill validator keeps spitting the bills back out. I've tried various denominations and series bills to no avail.
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Can you please post a picture of your machine so we know what kind of machine you're working on?

Also, are you saying that the bill validator is attempting to accept the bill?  If so, it would seem that the machine is ready to play.  Try using a $1 bill in good condition in the acceptor.  Unless the machine was set to be a higher denomination than $1, it should accept the bill, post (a) credit(s), and stack the bill.

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Make sure the cabinet door is on and latched too, that prevents the game from seeing the main door closed because the main door won't latch without the bottom panel on

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 :103- What profanity? :103-

When you close the big slant top do the numbers on the display go out? If they don't you hay have an optic problem. Ben

Married  :72-

you have a S+ machine      I never saw a S slant top    It sounds as if the machine is ready to play, if it wasn't you would never get it to attempt to even try to accept a dollar bill,  so I guess the optics must be good. If it were in a door open state the bill acceptor would never come on line.  Open your machine, latch the top in place and find the coin comparator. down in the left most cornor of the coin in optics is a little white switch, if your game is not in a tilt mode or payout mode, when you press this button you should be able to establish credits and play the game. If this works then your problem is in the coin comparator or its associated wiring. check the plug to the cc-16 make sure all the wires are still attached, this was probably the weakest point of the S+ series.

Hope this helps

Jim

P.S.  the 25 cent denom. lamp has power to it all the time so you can use this to test all your other "86 bulbs

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Great posts Rocket!  :3-
This is all very, very helpful!

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Thanks to everyone for the info and pic's, sorry I haven't been right on top of this, but other daily activities have consumed most of my free time lately. I have no manuals on this, so it's been a slower process than usual. I took some pic's yesterday, now I have to figure out how to post them. Not the most computer savvy! Again, Thanks! I will try to get to some of the suggestions when I get off of work today.

I knew if you hung around long enough you would be good for something............just kidding. :72- Hanging around here myself for since January of 06 I am still one of those between needing to be spoon feed and sucking there thumb. My back ground is mechanical and business not electrical so I always have a hard time fixing my slots. :37-  I don't have a slant top so it was interesting to see some details. Thank you for taking the time to SHOW us spoon fed slot enthusiast pictures we can understand.  :97- :97-


Ron

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Here's some pic's, I hope this works! By the way it is set up as a quarter machine.

Here's 2 more

The final 2

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I've removed the coin hopper and escalator about 3 times already and it looks clear. I have some prior experience with pachislo machines, so this was nothing new. A little background on me: I'm an industrial electrician, so I have knowledge in power distribution and control logic circuits. But... without a schematic to work with, everyone's input sure cuts down the troublshooting time. I know, if you have a print, what do you need an electrician for! Thanks again to all!

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Joe-

I'm still not convinced that your machine is broken.

Is the bottom candle ("tower") light on steady, or blinking rapidly?

Also, does the yellow plastic right below the bill validator (where it says "insert bills", directly below the black beak to feed bills in) light up when you close the door, and go dark when you open the door?

Finally, try adjusting the coin comparator.  First, make sure that the coin is seated properly in there, and then using a tiny screwdriver turn the adjustment pot all the way to the "-" (minus) setting.  That should have the comparator reject fewer coins.

The bottom light is blinking rapidly. After closing the door, the machine goes thru a self test, then the bottom light blinks and the display alternates between 263 and 10. the bill acceptor appears lit and accepts the bill then spits it back out.

The 10 is the last winner (you have 3 any bars that pay 10 coins when you play 2), and the 263 is the coins that were paid out of the hopper.  Has this bill validator every accepted a bill that you have witnessed yourself?  You may have the wrong protocol on the DBV software.


As far as the coin acceptor, it may just be broken, do you have a way to test it in another machine?

Joe,

From your picture of the coin comparator it doesn't appear that it is seated in its plastic clip holders properly.   Try re-seating it and make sure all the corners of the comparator are in the clips the way they should be.

 

This sure looks like S+ to me, but it is in the M Slot section, I am going to move it.

P.S. Hey there Donnie, (ROCKET) good to see you posting and hopefully feeling better! K+ for PICS and Help! I always snap pictures and take notes, even if I THINK I know what I am doing! :5- :96- :97-

CaptainHappy :95-
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I was able to add the two required credits, (thanks for the pic's!), the game played when I pressed the spin button. But it still will not accept coins. I tried readjusting the coin comparator physically and with the pot. Still no go. So I tried the bill validator and it is working now! I'm still not sure what exactly solved the problem, (it needed to cycle? or bad bills?). I guess I just need a new coin comparator now. Thanks for all the input, time and patience on this problem. This is the first time I've ever consulted an online help site and it went above and beyond what I was hoping for. Thanks for the immediate, useful, and friendly input from everyone!

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you can eliminate the coin optics as your problem by simply shimming out the coin accept gate on the back side of the comparator. follow the two gray wires that come from the plug on the front (right side middle of comp.) to the coil on the back. If you push the arm that is pulled in by the coil when it is active, you will see that the part (coin acceptor gate) pivots and at rest blocks the coin. When energized it pulls the arm out of the body of the comparator and allows the coin to pass onto the optics. You can place a piece of cardboard behind the gate to keep it out of the way so a coin will pass. If this works then the coin comp. is probably broken, provided that the wiring harness is good. If the harness is defective then the comp. won't get power and not work at all.
Either way by doing the above , you should get the machine to work with coins while you are waiting for parts.


Jim

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The reels on my slant top hang off the top. What is the differance between the two?

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Thanks, I'll try all the above when I get back into town.

My machines are S+, Made in 1991.

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I need  a new reel for one of my machines, so would it take a slant top reel or regular? I put  in a Wild Cherry slant top kit in one and the reels were off. I had to move the notches on them so they would match the winnings.

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