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Ok, here's my Mikohn ChamII+ with S+ setup notes.  I will detail step-by-step the setup I've just completed.  Thanks to ninja66 for lending me the hardware to try.

1.  Setup the S+ for progressive.  Using a SET90 chip I set up the machine to single level linked.  No other options were necessary. (If your SP chip allows you to setup your progressive by flipping the dip switch, you do not need a set chip)
2.  Connect the S+ to the chamII+ using harness as per the ChamII+ book. 3 wire connection required. (See Page 33 of the ChamII+ user manual for drawing of this harness)
3.  Setup the ChamII+ jackpot settings using the PSP program (the "old" configuration choice on the startup screen).   Requires custom serial cable pin 1 to 5 jumped.
3a. These were my settings.
     Page 1  Base Value        10,000.00
                Current Jackpot 10,000.00
                Hidden Jackpot          0.00
                JP Limit             1,000,000.00 (If I ever get there, I'll let my grandchildren tell you about it)
                Increment 1       00.250 000 00  (this is 25 cents for every coin dropped into the machine.  If you want 1 cent per coin the value would be 00.010 (no matter the denomination set on the S+)
                Increment 2       00.000 000 00 (if you reach the JP limit, this would be the increment value after you reach the JP limit, so you could set a value here if you wanted for the jackpot to grow after you reach the JP Limit)
                Other options on this page that are important F3 should be SNGL, F4 M-08, F5 3sec, F6 JP0, F8 MS08


That should do it.  Fire them up and your progressive should be fully functional.

One more note regarding the ChamII+ setup.  The power supply and the display came from a ChamII which he (ninja66) could not link up to a con1.  I tried it, didn't work either.  So it's confirmed that the CHAMII power supply and display are pin compatible to the chamII+.

Also another interesting observation.  He has an IGT progressive 7 segment LED system on his machine.  When I hooked up the ChamII+ and set the S+ to single level progressive linked mode. I noticed a little later that the jackpot amount reflected on the IGT display matched the Mikohn display.  If I unplogged the mikohn display, the IGT display would go blank.  So there's a two way communication going on here.  He still wants to use his con1, so he's gonna have invest in a link chamI with display and power supply if he wants multi-machine progressive.

If you set the Mfile to 0 using the configuration switches it wll display the PSP sent message Jackpot.do.  I know it worked because I changed the display attributes of the Jackpot.Do file and it worked.  I also got it to display the demo message. What I couldn't get it to do is to display the idle message Mess.do file that is suppose to display if more than 2 minutes of no coin activity passes by.  Also none of the Jack*.do files were displayed during the normal play cycle like it's supposed to.  I was using firmware 1.53.

You are probably correct.  The manual for the chamII+ only mentions the jpot.do file.  I suppose the only way to to have both the jackpot amount displayed and messages would be to make custom backgound.pdf and filename.txt files (which can get very lengthy if you want to do the multicolored "dazzle" and scroll type messages as it is not a function, but you would have to repeat the the phrase over and over like this in order to scroll the message off the screen.  Here's a would be sample to scroll of the word "Scroll"
Mode(0);
Print(Scroll);
Wait(5);
Print(croll );
Wait(5);
Print(roll  );
Wait(5);
Print(oll   );
Wait(5);
Print(ll    );
Wait(5);
Print(l    );
Print(    );
Wait(5);

And that's just to scroll the word "Scroll" and one color, no flashing, etc.
So the background.bat file would look like this

PRGSV c:default.pdf 10
Text b:filename.txt


this would display the jackpot in whatever format your Mfile is set to for 10 seconds then filename.txt would have all those print and wait comands to scroll the word scroll. and the cycle would repeat again.

I think that would do it.

Good Afternoon!  :5-  April is shipping the display unit and the board ChamII board that I won a day earlier (one with the chip and VRM) tomorrow.  :3- :3- Someone (I think it was ninja66) said that I will need cords to connect these together and to the machine that are available here on NLG. Were here?  And what else do I need besides a brain?  :76-   Thanks!     Tim  :91-

Waz there ? ... I assume you are talking IGT reel slot and not the game maker or other.

Incidently I see a Spam ICON in your post but no beer....I am not sure how you can have golf in your handle but not respect the 19th hole.
anyways I digress....

Connecting is easy.... you need three wires from the ChamII+ and you run them to the mother board.
This is the permanently mounted board that the MPU board (the one with the reel/game chips) plugs into at the bottom of the cabinet.

Facing the machine on the far right of the board there is a 4 pin connector.

You will use the two left most pins. Since all these do is momentarily short polarity is not at issue.

On the MPU board (assuming this is a 10mhz board)  you will need to flip Switch 5 to turn on progressives.
I think 6/7/8 remain off for standalone progressive.

You will also need a game chip like 731 that supports progressives. You will need to go to page 9 (9 in the coins played window) and make sure you change progressive from 0 to 1.

Let us know how you make out.... or if you need more detailed instructions.

First thing  you need to do is switch out the logic boards.  The Unit that came with the display is a chamII and you need a con2 to drive that, so remove it from the power supply and replace it with the chamII+ you won earlier.  Then you need to make a wire harness to the S+.  Not to step on Jay's toes, but the chamII+ requires a 3 wire connection to the S+.  The pin out specs are in the manual for the chamII+.  I made a couple of these cables for Ninja66.  He paid for the components.  Maybe he's willing to part with one as he only has one chamII+ controller.  The first post on this thread as the step by step details on what I had to do to get it going.  Not all that difficult.  You will need a computer capable of running PSP though.  I've had mixed sucess running it of Windows XP.  I used an old toshiba laptop that had windows 98 and it worked like a champ.

you need a special cable made.  You can basically take a standard serial cable and jump pins 1 and 5.  That will work. You also need to download PSP from this site in the download folder.

A CHAM2 does not hook up to the S+.  Only connects to the CON.

If you are talking CHAM2+ (that's PLUS), then J7 connects to the prog connector J12 on the mother board of the S+ or PE+


The Harness is pictured on page 33(39) of this manual: CHAMII+ User Manual 990-241-38 Rev B

CJ

I believe the chamII+ interface is is a 3 wire rig.....

If you look at the S+ straight on with the hopper removed. The mother board is on the bottom.
The tray with the knob is the MPU board and that plugs into the mother board.

On the front right side of the motherboard there is a 4 pin connector.

From the description of the boot process you posted on the other thread, you have a ChamII.  That will only work with a con2 supercontroller. You had said earilier that you also purchased the ChamII Plus logicboard by itself.  You will need to replace that board with the one that is mounted on the powersupply.  The power supply and display will work with the ChamII Plus.  Once you do that you will need to program your progressive information using the PSP program and next you will need to connect the whole thing to the S-Plus.  It requires a 3 wire connection between J12 on S+ Mainboard (not the one you remove for game changes, but the one that is fixed on the slot cabinet) and J7 of the ChamII Plus as follows

Pin 4 from S+ J12 goes to pin 3 on ChamII Plus J7
Pin 3 from S+ J12 goes to pin 13 on ChamII Plus J7
Pin 2 from S+ J12 goes to pin 11 on ChamII Plus J7

Good afternoon!!  :5-   CHAMII+ Blow Up Day   :12-        Before I drive Jay nuts I thought that I would get a few of the preliminary things done first. The cable from the mother board to the CHAMII+.........How do I know which pin is which on the J12 and J7?  Do they simply number from left to right, top row first? I have both schematics but neither number the pins.  Also I noted that (I think it was Rick) had made cables for these. Were did you get the male plugs?   Thanks!    Tim

I bought the plugs from mouser (www.mouser.com) (http://(www.mouser.com)).  There's a minimum order of $25.00 so I bought multiples.
J12 is pictured here.  It's the one with the Red Plug on it.  The part # from mouser is 640614.  It's 22 AWG wire. Pin 1 is to the right.

So far so good..I have the cables and computer ready........The dos program is asking for a password and the number keys are all that to seem to work.   HELP!    Thanks!   Tim

The password is 135642

Don't forget to jump pins 1 and 5 on the cable or back of the board.  Also, pick OLD, NOT CON1 or CON2.

Remember to press " F10 " and not" enter " for password validity

cheers

Ozzy

OK! Thanks........... :89- :91- :89-..Got it doing all kinds of cool stuff, displaying text, the demo message etc. I can not get it to communicate with the S+. I am guessing as to the wire placement on the units. On the mother board there are 4 pins, are they 1,2,3,4, left to right?  And on the CHAMII+ there are 14 pins on the J7. Looking at the board with the J7 on the bottom, are the pins 1-7 on the top row and 8-14 on the bottom left to right?    I have the S+ set up for progressive stand alone (I guess) and it has the page 9 progressive settings available (I know that this is for the IGT display but it does show that the machine is set up for progressive...Right?) Thanks!   Tim

On J7, pin 1 coonects to pin 2 on the S+, pin 2 on J7 connects to pin 3 on the S+ and pin 6 on J7 connects to pin 1 on the S+.

I have some pretty good ideas about the mounting........just trying to decide if I want the power supply and board inside the cabinet or on top with the display. Inside would be easier, but I am wondering about the temperature as it runs hot in there already.     OK......I decided to program my 2nd Mic display at the same time, and I can not remember  :25- :25- :25- how I got out of the demo mode........it's stuck there. How do I escape the demo?  Thanks!   Tim

need to re-send jackpot.do file.  Sometimes it doesn't take.  So what I do is turn off the progressive unit.  Then turn it on again, and when the message begins to scroll, then I go to page 4  in PSP and hit F1.  That usually fixes it.  Or, you could just set the MFile to something other that 0 using the configuration buttons on the ChamII+.

I have my top box of a 9" loaded with the CON1, The LED5 and mini display (driven by the CON1), and the IGT internal progressive.

I find that the powersupply on the LED5 fails from time to tme (after being on longer than 3hrs), and I believe it is heat related. I am someday going to break down and replace it. CompUSA has inexpensive PC power supplies for $24.00 which I have been told should work. I am thinking the internal fan on the PC power supply might help the situation a bit. There is not a lot of places for that heat to go but at least there will be some air movement.

I had been thinking of buying one decent high output supply and driving all 3 LED5's in each machine but have since been talked out of it. The concern is that you might introduce floating grounds between machines....

Thanks!  Would you believe....... :5-....that I might just Leave it in the display mode.. :50-  Wile I was waiting to find out how you get out of the demo mode (I had been hitting the jackpot.do reload...will try it like Jay said) I decided to have a little fun with it. I re wrote the demo, added some different effects, and now I have a sign welcoming people to my casino room. I put so much stuff on there that it takes over 8 min. to repeat.  :91-
On the first one I have decided to mount the display on top in a 2" high enclosure with the power supply inside. I am making it in such a way that it will add to the cooling of the upper cabinet by cutting out the large circular hole that is in the metal, but not in the laminate. That way the hot air that is in the upper 16" top should, by convection, be drawn into the upper part I am building and channeled into the cooling slot I am providing. I will send some pictures when I get the formica on.  Well................I'M hooked now.. :72-   Already have a bid in on another CHAMII+ and another power supply. And I purchased 3 IGT progressive displays from April yesterday for......she is probably going to slap me for posting this....75.00 each. So I think I'M going to copy Jay and have the primary on the Mikohn and the secondary jackpot on the IGT.   
And thanks to all of you...... :7- :18- :30- :39- :7-....I did not drive Jay totally NUTS this weekend!  :3- :3- :3-
Thanks again!   Tim

Finished the mounting box. Made 3 alike but only took the time to put the gloss black laminate on one. Has 1/16 Plexiglas in front, 3/4" cooling slot in the back. Pictures follow in separate posts due to my  :32- speed dial up.   Tim

More Pic's

Finished

My theory is that Tims basement will soon be full and the auctions will be sane again....

With respect to a CON1 they only use 2 wires. If you momentarily short them it does trigger coin in and a 3sec short causes it to reset and go into a Jackpot. The ChamII+ uses 3 wires. The Mikohn manual has a lot of this information in it.

Why do you want to artificially trigger a jackpot ?? do you have something more than the display go off when it triggers ?

Jay,
It sounds like Tim wants to isolate multiple machines from each other and drive a single linked jackpot.

We often use relays (we call them ice-cubes because they are about 1" square and clear) to provide contacts that have their voltages isolated.

Tim, you may be on the right path for simplicity.

Later from the cockpit,
'da Monster

P.S. If you wonder what a Cessna C182 cockpit looks like . . . . . see my Avatar. Soon to be Tims Avatar when I hear from him.

Oh I get it now. He wants to use a CHAMII as a linked unit. Very cool.

The only issue is if the machines get very busy will the multiple machines going off in succession look like a single 3sec closed event to the Cham..Relays are not known for their speed.

I have S+ Roundtop Game chip 731 or can use a 738,

Cham II+ ver 2.01, 60 size display

I figured out the wiring,  Triple checking everything.

Going by the Cham II+ manual and couple pics from this post.
I can if I try hard enough to get it to increment the amount and even think a Jackpot has been won. by


I am not getting any communication with the machine. 

Does having the computer interfaced to the Cham II+ prevent it, or is something else going on

I have the Machine and serial type set to type 8, and jackpot reset at 3 seconds

Do I enable Progressive in the machine or do I leave it off?

You need to setup the machine as a linked progressive for it to send data to the chamII+.  On an SP731, it's done with the dip switches positions 5 and 8 must be on.

Anything else I could be forgetting?

Do I have to configure a machine address in the Machine and Cham II+

I still get the IGT est mode 9 options and got  addtional option after it with a blinking 1
 
Right now the Cham II+ is in a jackpot condition (says Jackpot, amount, current, amount) and not using the dazzle mode I programmed

Foster

 

Just curious, did you set it up as Stand Alone mode in the configuration menu in the ChamII+ (not in PSP)

yes under DISP
JP GRP 1 = SA

Next?

mfile = 4

I found the problem

Even though I had followed the wiring correctly, I was using 26 guage wire and the connectors in the 4 pin plug for the IGT wasnt cutting through the insulation (Teflon I think)

When I changed to 22 guage with normal insulation it started working

right now its incrementing properly and the jackpot condition cleared

now to reset the values and play with it

It even updated the progressive setting on the S+

It may all depend on the length.  The electronics may not tolerate a much longer length than already provide.  They might start picking up other noise (like from the Fluorescent ballast and AC wiring).

As to cost, if you look up the price for the male type IDC connector needed to make an "Extension cord" of the ribbon cable, you will note they are extremely expensive (I just had to buy some for another project).  The cost of two normal Female IDC headers and some fresh ribbon cable will prove to be much cheaper.

If you are careful, you can line up the ribbon in the grooves of the connector and use a standard bench vice to press the two parts together.

Before you try to use your home made cable assy. It is best to make two tests on it.  First, make sure pin 1 goes to pin 1.  It is very easy to get this backwards.  Second, you should test for shorts between adjoining wires (like 1 to 2 to 3 and 2 to 3 to 4 etc.)  since it is also easy to crimp down just to the side of the wires and end up joining every adjoining wire together.  Once tested outside the machine, its time for the Smoke Test..........

Even after making a new cable that you are sure is a perfect copy, if you still have some weird display problems, the wire length is probably too long for the electronics.

Digikey also sells premade cable assemblies in varying length (both end to end or the extension type you mentioned).  Most are custom made after you order so it may add time to your delivery.  That's assuming they carry the number of pins you need.

CJ

Guess I could mount that ugly controller on the back of the machine.
The display will be on the top of the machine, just wont see part of the candle.

I am not in the position to do wood working at all. Live in an Apartment.

Roundtop machine.

I will try to take both cables with me to the local electronic parts place I know he has the 2 pin connectors and the 10 or so IDC connectors, just do not know if he has the connector that goes into the power supply

Why not just leave the controller in the top box.   That's where the CHAMII+ is located when the machines are in a casino.

That be a small problem for my setup.

None of my award glass is has the window for the mikohn 60x8 display, so until this afternoon, the display was sitting on the top door ledge. covering part of the award glass, I have the short roundtop (no player tracking plate)

The controller is velcroed to back of machine

I had a black matt frame made today to hold the display no glass.  and just velroed it to top of the machine. and then moved candle to top of the frame for now. As long as you dont look too closely at the back area it looks very clean for now.


Hey anyone have a progressive label that goes in the award glass I have one but need a second one for Sugar N Spice glass. 
I suspect if you get all spice or all sugar symbols it pays the progressive since it also has a lower none progressive value for mixed sugar and spice symbols (game chip comes back as a cats n dogs game)

I have a short RT machine too.  I have been toying with the idea of making something that would sit on top of the machine.  My idea was to have the display mounted on a chrome tube where the candle is and then mount to candle on top of the display.  The wires would feed through the candle hole on top of the machine.  Please upload a photo of what yours looks like.

That might be an idea use.

Use either chrome or black pipe to lift up the display a bit then mount candle on top. wonder best way to mount frame to pipe though.

And trying to find the bolts or threaded rods to hold it together.

If your choice is pipe then you could use a floor flange. Should find them at Lowes/Home Depot.

Flat Black might not be your first thought, but this color will fade into the background. Chrome would be hard to find.

I was going to make one for my new roundtop similar to the three that I have made for the 16". I am planning to make a small base that is apx. 3/4" high above the peak and about 4" wide and then an apx 17" long X 4" High box to house the display. I was going to make it only 4" deep and provide hidden slots ( one on the bottom and one on the top were you will not see them) for cooling. The candle or topper would mount dead center on the top. I could make several at the same time and the formica work would be a lot easier because there are no complex angles like on the 16".

OH.......forgot to mention........the CHAMII+ will need to be inside with the power supply. If you use longer ribbon cable, be sure to use a choke ( the round magnet that has the wire wrapped around it)to limit interference.

and...........question.............this go bananas game. I can not get it to do a 2 level progressive. There are two award levels : 2500 and 300. With the set chip in it is set up for 31-3 but when I try to set up the progressive levels it will only do 1 through 4 and with the set chip (090) out,  running game chip 1274 the test shows 31-1. Book says that it is because the game will not support 2 levels, only one. Is this right?    Thanks   Tim   arrow   
PS.....How big are the displays (size) that Joey has hooked up to the CON1?

Tim: That looks like an awsome machine. Can you give us another pic zoomed out so we can see your progressive add on in full glory and your topper.

Rick: I am running off a 1271 game chip and it is working with multi-level progressive (top link) secondary .... but I am not sure the reel chip will recognise this or if it will just pay out the 240....

Yes both increment.

My best guess is that the 1271 Game handles the progressive settings but I think the paytable would be in the reel chip.... and my suspicion is that the "HOOK" to pay out a secondary progressive might not be there.

Hey Rick.....you have a CON2.........I have found someone who has the CON2 and a supreme controller with a power supply (for my big board) and I purchased both. I just received an email that after telling him what I games that I am running that he says that he thinks I need a "CON2 I".........the I being IGT, and that he must check his inventory but he has the regular CON2's. I am running all the info off the IGT's through CHAMII+ units and do not need to get the signal directly off the machines. I am not looking for the information that the casinos want, just coin in and jackpot signals (if I ever happen to hit one  :91-) The regular CON2.............it communicates with the CHAMII+ units....right? And enables the jack.do files.............Right?  So.do I need the "CON2 I" or will the regular flavor do?  Thanks!     Tim

Tim,

If you use your ChamII+ as standalones they can send the coin info to the CON2.... however they remain as standalone, each with their own jackpot info specific to the machine. This then lets the CON2 have a second pooled Jackpot but you would only be displaying that on your supreme or other display.... not on the local in machine display.

If you want a pure link configuration then the S+ machine talks to the CON2 and the CON2 talks to the CHamII+ this way they are all showing the same value (and messages) and a coin in on any machine adds to the pool.

Although you can put a CHamII+ in a link mode... its a real waste. A lot of people have the ChamII's (not plus model) that they would love to trade you + $$ for the II+ (just a suggestion)....

I wish I had a con2.  My friend has a CON1 (that I setup for him), so all the playing around I do with that is when I go to his place.  Based on the CON2 manual, it does appear you need a CON2I.  The machines on a linked setup will be connected to the CON2 directly, and the CHAMII+'s need to be setup in linked mode.  I think you are going to need firmware 2.0x for linked mode on a chamII+.  I have 1.53 that I've used and does not allow me to choose linked mode.  Or you could use chamII's.  I think you mentioned you had some of those leftover.

Download the con2 manual here http://newlifegames.net/techforum/download.php?d=MIKOHN&name=MIKOHN IUM CON2 950-010-00.pdf (http://newlifegames.net/techforum/download.php?d=MIKOHN&name=MIKOHN IUM CON2 950-010-00.pdf)
Appendix E has the harness drawing for the IGT games to the CON2I controller.

Man!! $380.00 and going up for a chamII + setup, for that much I'll sell one of mine!!!

Thanks!  So let me see if I have this right....the CHAMII+ will communicate to the CON2 (regular) and then the CON2 will talk to the big board and the big board would display the single linked progressive and the machines would be standalone units still displaying the jackpot of that particular machine. In the case of the CON2 I....That unit reads the info directly from the machines and then relays that info back to the CHAMII or CHAMII+ units. How dose the JACK.DO files work with these setups? I have a feeling that I'M going to have a hard time getting and or finding the "I" model.......and that probably means a lot more bucks.  :37-  What I had in-visioned was this............Each machine having a display.......and not all having the same thing showing......Different progressive amounts were every coin in would add to the big jackpot ......displayed on the big board. And then the big board switching from the big jackpot display to  showing all 6 individual present progressive jackpots (the board is set up to be one and or a combo of up to 6 totally different displays) and then back to the mega jackpot. But I want to be able to program the CHAMII+'s (or chamII ) to use the JACK.DO files ...................and get the infamous...2 Min Time Out!. What do you think Jay....should I hold out for the I model?   Thanks!   Tim  :5-

Tim to the best of my knowledge, there are 4 models of con2 controllers, two of which are for fiber links (IF and AF).  The other 2 are the Con2A and the Con2I.  You will need the Con2I to do everything, you do not need 2 con2's.  The con2I will interface with IGT equipment and your ChamII+'s.  IF you run a 2 level progressive the top prize in any machine will always be Jackpot1, and the 2nd prize would be the In-Machine displays (jackpot2).  You should be able to display both jackpots in your displays.  Though I don't know how to program 2 independent displays.  I think they would all be clones of each other.  You could set up the machines to run the local Mfiles and the big sign to run jack1.do, etc and mess.do files for the timeout so they don't all display the same thing.

It is my understanding that there are two configs.....

S+ ---Coin Detect ---> ChamII+ running standalone progressive (not link)-----> Coin Detect ---->Con2 ------> Output to display for linked prog

(I also think that this could look like as I have not seen any documentation to support the top)
S+ --> Coin Detect ---> ChamII+ running standalone progressive (not link)
     --> Coin Detect ---> Con2 ------> Output to display for linked prog

OR

S+ ---Coin Detect ---> Con2 --> Output to display for linked prog & ChamII/ChamII+

In this second configuration which is the most common the output can all be the same or as Rick describes the CON2 has multiple outputs that can display a different jackpot group and messages.

The big difference between the CON1 & CON2 is that the CON2 can drive CHAMII/II+ and supremes and have different outputs.
The CON1 can only drive LED4/LED5 and all output is pretty much the same.

On the LED4/5 stuff you can change the dip switches to display progressive amounts from any group but then you loose the messaging on those devices and it only displays the $ value.

Thanks!   It sounds like the CON2a would not be able to make the JACK.DO files work (and the 2 min time out). Right? 
And thanks again for all of your help!!   Tim :5-

the con2a will do that with Bally and Williams machines.  But if you want it to interface with your S+, gotta get Con2I

Well Jay.here are the pictures of the displays and the toppers. The Volcano display is pending as is the 4th but I thought you just might like to see those toppers as well. 1 per post  :32- speed

Just how many Volcano games have there own lava lamp as a candle?

And nothing like Betty to top the 4th

And "Play Max Coins to WIN A Motorcycle! Jack.DO

Could always mount a garden hose on top of this one...And when you hit the Tidal wave...Splash!

Need somthing for this as a topper........How about 5 of those great 5 times pay coffee mugs that Fannini sells with another rope light?

And who better than Jeff for this one?

And a wall shot.......All running great thanks to NLG! ......goodnight!     Tim

Tim,

Forgot to ask about the progressive display... Do you have the dollar sign after the amount on purpose??? I accidentally found out how to put it up front of the amount!  :5- :5- :5-

On that note, I finally built my own cable, and found an old win98 laptop (the fourth laptop finally worked) and have done some initial playing with my one working CHAMII+ SA setup. I have been able to get an amount in it and have it incrementing. and I have finally got some text coming up in the jpot.do section. I need to find time to go back to the other posts to figure out how to perfect things. I thought that I read you can put different stuff in each of the jack#.do and they are supposd to cycle thru them??? Right now it says Welcome to Mark's Casino.... Please Feed Me..... Feed Me!! ...... Feed Me More!!! and then it very briefly (I need to figure how to make it stay longer) displays the jackpot amount. All of this is in the one jpot.do file. I have not gone further yet. I was having a hard time getting it to work, and then I figured out it was not me, it was the controller communicating poorly like someone mentioned before. Sometimes it needs to be sent 10-15 times, or I have to turn it off and catch it when it is fresh right after booting. I do not know why this happens?

Now I need to find the Meters/displays that I am missing so that I can work on other machines!  :8- :8- :8- :8-

Adios,

Mark

The cycle is Jpot.do, jpot1.do, jpot.do, jpot2.do, jpot.do, jpot3.do, jpot.do, jpot4.do

The intent is that you put short attraction messages in the 1 thru 4 files and they interveave with the JPOT file which would have an Odomoter etc.

Jay he has a stand-alone, the additional message files only work on linked setups.  The chamII will only display the Jpot.do file.  So if you want messages, they all have to go there.

Hey There!...................Anybody know were you can get a Wheel of Fortune slot machine? My boss (Mega Bucks.......that I have made for him by running his business) wants to know if there is one out there. I told him I would ask but I kinda figure that with so many casinos using this now that he is probably S.O.L.............But I said that I would ask.................. :67-.........Thanks!   Tim

It's unlikely you'll ever find one as these are leased only games and the casino's are instructed to destroy them when they get retired.  This is to protect the rights of "wheel of fortune" holder.  I've seen pieces come up from time to time probably from casinos that had parts that closed down and nobody bothered to look at parts, but a whole machine...

On the other hand I have seen the Igame versions of the wheel of fortune sold with  3902 boards for gamekings.  So you could get and Igame (Gameking) and buy the software from the guy at e-bay.  It won't have the spinning wheel on the top, but it's a start.

The Dollar sign defaults there...how did you move it?  Thanks!   Tim

You set it up in the PSP software.  Go to Page 3, Symbols and Currency Setup.  Use the F5 key to toggle where you want the $ sybmol to appear.

It's in the PSP software.  I think it's option 3 off the top of my head one of the function keys controls it.

Oops, just noticed your post idesign.  Duplicate info.

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Thanks to Jeff I now Have a progressive slant top.  :3- :3- :3- :3-

Okay, so I got my hands on (what I believe to be) a ChamII+.  It had been in a S+ slant top game as a stand-alone progressive for that machine.  It has a 12-segment tri-color display.

I'm interested in adding it to my S+ machine.  I currently have one of the little IGT red "Mini Photon" in-glass displays set up.

Am I correct that in order to add the ChamII+ as the primary progressive, and keep the IGT as a secondary progressive, I need to change the relevant option to "Primary Level Link, Secondary Level Stand-Alone"?  Am I also correct that not every game theme supports a secondary progressive (like my Diamond 5's (Five Times Pay clone) 3CM game)?

Finally (for now anyway!), where might I find the software to program this thing, and how exactly does one jump pins 1 and 5 on a serial cable while still being able to plug it in to the serial port?  I'm having a tough time visualizing that...

Thanks!

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Yes, that is a ChamII+ and yes not all games support 2 level progressive.  You can just look at the glass and if there's a decal for the 2nd level prize, then the theme supports 2nd level progressive.

To jump pins 1 and 5 you can:

1. Jump it in the back of the PCB on the chamII+s logic board.
2. Make a small cable you can connect between your standard serial cable and the chamII+ with pins 1 and 5 jumpered (See attached PDF)
3. Buy a serial cable with removable hoods on the ends and jumper pins 1 and 5 inside the connector.

If no one has sent you a friendly e-mail on where to acquire the software, PM me and I'll see what I can do.  :3- :3- :3-

I don't see an attached .pdf?  Thanks for your help -- what you posted makes a little more sense -- I was trying to figure out how to jump the pins in the connector itself and still be able to plug it in to the port.

Oh, I also meant to ask if anyone had a customized jpot.do file they'd like to share?  I would love to program in a message, have it display the current jackpot, another message, current jackpot, etc.  I know that I can only have one jpot.do file, but if understand correctly what I want to do can still be accomplished by making one long jpot.do file.  Anyhoo, having a template to work from would be really nice.

Here's the missing psp file

I think you can have 4 files JPOT.DO, JPOT1.DO, JPOT2.DO JPOT3.DO and it cycles through all of them and then repeats. Each file I believe is 256 characters long.

The difference between a CON1, CON2 platform is that you also have a MESS.DO that gives a different message when the machine is idle.

In standalone mode, you only have one jpot.do file.  In linked mode, it cycles through all 4.  At least I've never been able to get more than 1 jpot.do file in stand alone mode. :60- :60- :60-

Yes, it's true that you can only use the jpot.do file, but you can have more than one message in the same file. Just separate each message by several jackpot token pages with the longest possible delays. The number of messages is limited by your tolerance of how frequently they come up and the maximum number of pages (31, I believe).  Obviously, the more messages you have the fewer jackpot token pages you can have between the messages and the more frequently they pop up and interrupt your progressive amount.  I found that there is no restriction on how LONG the file and messages are (or if there is I never reached it), but there is that limit on the number of page breaks. If you exceed it you will see a specific set of garbage characters in place of your message.

Well, now that I have my communication problem resolved, I figured this would be a better thread to ask about programming.

Is there a way to read ("load") the current jpot.do file that's in my ChamII+?  I'd like to see what its current setting is before I go messing around with it.

FWIW, right now it just shows the meter total, with the color changing from green to yellow to red over and over.  The numbers stay in place (do not move at all), and the color change "wipes" down from the top.  What effect is that called?  I suppose if I could find that out, I wouldn't even have to read the info that's in there.

Anyway, I didn't see the "LOAD" option on the screen when programming the jpot.do file.  Is it an option and it's just not displayed, or is it not possible to read the current file, or what?    :5-

Also, am I correct that I don't need to worry about any of the other files as they'll never display?

While we're at it, are the Odometer Control settings something that can be used with the ChamII+ standing alone?  I read the settings from the ChamII+, and they were all zero.  I used the defaults and sent them to the ChamII+, but when I read them back to verify, it was all zeros again.

Thanks again to everyone for your help.

There's no load jackpot.do.  You just have to rename the file jpot0.do (or whatever the first jackpot.do file is named) and load the psp program using the path where the file is.  If you want the chamII+ to use the jackpot.do file you upload, then you need to set the MFILE=0 in the display configuration options using the switches on the chamII+.  You flip the switch and hit one of the two buttons that will move into the display group, then you hit the other button to go through the options until you get to Mfile.  Mfile=0 uses your defined jpot.do file.  The other ones use a fixed pattern.  Do you have the chamII+ manual? it describes what all the mfile numbers do.

Kevin, I'm sure you've done your reading of theses threads, but don't forget the little pesky bug that many of us have experienced. For many of us, the ChamII+ will only accept a new jpot.do file right after bootup. The rest of the time it will say that the file uploaded, but it doesn't work.

For complex messages it takes many uploads and testing to get the timing and look just right. What I do when I'm working on a file and testing is to make a simple obvious change in the FIRST paragraph of the file EVERY time I upload. That way I can be sure that the newest version "took" without waiting for the place that I'm working on in the file to display, which could be a couple of minutes into the program. (It sucks to wait all that time only to find that your change didn't upload) Then when I'm finished I reset the change to my desired setting on the last upload.

good tip.  I'm going to start use v1, v2, etc as the first two letters in the message until the thing is just the way I want it.  :3- :3- :3-

The reason I started doing this was that I had three messages in the one file separated by jackpot tokens. You can't cut and paste so I couldn't get rid of the tokens (although I could manually change their time to the shortest setting to get through them faster). By the time I was working on the third message at the end of the file the waiting around was getting old.

btw, that's also how I discovered the maximum of 31 (30, 31, or 32 -- I forget which :25-) paragraphs. I wanted to add a 4th message. I found that the total length of the file -- i.e. shorter messages -- made no difference, It was only the number of paragraph commands. Once exceeded, I got a specific non-random set of "random" junk displayed. I'm pretty sure that the last paragraph sent the pointer oob, and it was displaying whatever code was at the address that the pointer was pointing to. That's when I wished the other .do files worked!! :8- :8-

I feel like this is one of the stupider questions I've asked on here (I know there are no stupid questions), but when looking at the motherboard in my S+ upright, I know I need to connect connector from the ChamII+ to the board, but which three of the four pins on that motherboard connector are used?  The three closest to the pull arm/bill validator side of the machine, or the three closest to the "change" button side of the machine?

I got my programming done -- I'm itching to hook it up to the slot machine now and see it in action.   :71-

Thanks.

Hang on, let me take a picture.