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Title: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: knagl on September 27, 2009, 08:31:50 AM
Does anyone know anything about what would drive the Mikohn "MoneyTime" system, and more importantly what kind of displays are in the machines pictured below, and what (if anything) would drive them in a stand-alone setting?  A friend of mine is looking to buy a lot of S+ machines to re-sell, and these are available for him to purchase.  The problem (as I see it) is that he's going to have stand-alone S+ machines that have a large blank display in the award glasses.

I presume we could put standard SP and SS chips in them and get them to operate as normal S+ machines, but does anyone know if it would be possible to perhaps program a message like "good luck" or something on the displays?  Would a ChamII+ drive that display?  Anyone have any other information or suggestions?  I don't have any other information about the machines other than the picture below, and the description of "MoneyTime" that I found on Mikohn's old website (posted below).

(I suggested he might want to just replace the award and belly glass on each machine, but of course glass isn't always easy to come by...)


Click on the photo for a bigger version of it, or e-mail me for an even larger version.

(http://i34.tinypic.com/flk0up.jpg) (http://i34.tinypic.com/2v84q34.jpg)

Description of "MoneyTime" from Mikohn's website, circa 1999-2000:
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Your customer is playing a slot machine when suddenly a booming voice announces "It's MoneyTime!" Lights flash, bells ring and music begins to play. Activity in the linked progressive carousel rises to a
frenzied pace because the players know that, as long as the music and light display lasts, they are eligible for random jackpots. The enthusiasm is contagious and the noise attracts the attention of other
customers who happen to be walking by. A crowd gathers to watch. Random jackpots from $5.00 to $1,000.00 are being paid, and the lucky players shout as the awards are paid directly to the credit meters on
their machines. As jackpots are won, sound and graphics explode in celebration. Once the bonus period is over, activity in the area is higher than before. The MoneyTime display promotes the message "Any
coin could trigger the money". The customer stays and plays while other patrons join the fun because "MoneyTime could be any time".

MoneyTime™, the new multi-sensory bonus slot extravaganza from Mikohn, is setting records in increased slot play.

The Concept
MoneyTime™ is a linked slot merchandising concept that awards random jackpots to one or more eligible players during the bonus mode. No winning reel combination is needed. Multiple players are rewarded just
for playing. That factor in itself would be enough to increase play but MoneyTime announces bonus jackpot periods with dazzling sound and light displays that demand attention.

The bonus period is triggered every time a mystery (hidden) jackpot reaches a randomly selected amount within a pre-configured range. The more play on the linked machines, the more frequently the system
enters the bonus mode. Only active players are eligible to win bonus jackpots and the eligibility requirements are configurable by the operator. Customers are rewarded only if they have been playing for a
specified time before the bonus mode began or for a required maximum coin-in. The eligibility feature along with the random nature of the system discourages team play.

Display Modes
MoneyTime comes with an array of specially designed signage, meter gaphics, slot glass and a high-quality stereo sound system. MoneyTime can be customized to match a casino's special theme or area.

MoneyTime includes three special operational modes:

Attract and Advertise Mode. A voice playback announces, "Any coin might trigger the money!" or the message of your choice. Overhead and in-machine displays announce special MoneyTime graphics. Additional
graphic and text displays can explain the game and its rules.

Bonus Mode. During the bonus mode, the playback announces, "It's MoneyTime". Music adds to the excitement while neon lights dance and meters flash "dancing" coins.

Win Celebration. When a bonus jackpot is awarded, the audio changes, and the overhead graphics and in-machine displays celebrate and announce all payouts.

MoneyTime can be designed to suit your gaming floor or theme

Thanks in advance for any assistance.  :3-

Edited to add:

Click here (http://web.archive.org/web/20001021094559/http://www.mikohn.com/site_map/main_frame.cfm) and click on MoneyTime under Merchandising.

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MoneyTime is a linked slot machine merchandising system which can handle up to 96 games simultaneously. The system randomly rewards players operating in its specially themed area with surprise jackpots as high as $1,000 during specific bonus periods, all showcased by an exciting variety of flashing lights, sound effects, and music.


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: westec1 on September 27, 2009, 02:25:30 PM

I don't know anything about these except that I'm sure April "lemans1969" was selling some glass and displays
that sure look the same as these

Wes


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: idesign on September 27, 2009, 02:41:15 PM
A CHAMII+ will not drive those displays.  You need a CON2 and a Supreme to make them work correctly.  With the CON2 you could even link them together and have them all display the same progressive amount.  But you would need a Supreme for each machine to drive each display.  You can also add graphics to those displays with the Supreme so you could mix graphics and text with the progressive amounts.


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: jay on September 27, 2009, 04:02:18 PM

Those look like they are 16" machines with 9" top glass + the display.

It would be interesting to know if the Supreme is behind the glass. That indeed would make it a worthwhile purchase.
Where else would they put the supremes ??


Very nice.


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: CommTech on September 27, 2009, 04:07:19 PM

It would be interesting to know if the Supreme is behind the glass. That indeed would make it a worthwhile purchase.
Where else would they put the supremes ??
Very nice.

I was just about to say the same thing Jay.  Chances are that the Supreme controllers are already behind the glass.


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: idesign on September 27, 2009, 09:02:04 PM
Only way to find out is to just plug a machine in a see if it lights up the display.  The graphics or text part is retained in the Supreme's memory so that would be displayed if they programmed it in .  Otherwise it would display a C1 error........or nothing at all is there was no Supreme or the Supreme is not connected to the 110v outlet in the machine.


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: uniman on September 27, 2009, 09:46:56 PM
Years ago the Imperial Palace in Vegas had Money Time linked to several dollar machines. About four years ago I saw Money Time at Windor Casino in Canada. They were quarter machines. Maybe these machines are from Windsor?
They were all linked to the giant display.


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: knagl on September 28, 2009, 12:12:48 AM
So, to be clear, each machine even in the casino environment would have had a Supreme in it, in addition to a CON2 (or something) to link them all together for the progressive action?

If these had just a Supreme in them, would it be possible to program them (using PSP, I guess?) to display a "good luck" / "welcome to Steve's casino" type message in them?  Would a supreme work as a stand-alone progressive controller, or are they dumb units that only know what has been programmed into them or what is told to them by a CON2?

I don't think my friend has direct access to the machines to inspect them in person, but I'm sure he could ask questions of the seller.  If the machines are plugged in and the display shows "C1", what does that tell him?

Jay- It actually appears to be special 16" glass with a clear section for the display (much like WMS Dotmation glass).

uniman- I'm pretty certain they came from a casino in Wisconsin.

EVERYONE: Thank you very much for the feedback thus far and K+ to everyone who provided info.   :3-  I'll pass all of this information on to my friend tomorrow.  In the mean time, if anyone can chime in with the answers to my new questions in this post it'd be greatly appreciated! 


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: jay on September 28, 2009, 12:27:36 AM
PSP programs a CON1, CON2 or ChamII+

The CON2 would drive the Supreme which is connected to the display.

You need the CON2 to drive the supreme.


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: knagl on September 28, 2009, 12:53:07 AM
Thanks for the info.  If I understand correctly, then without the CON2, the supreme is pretty useless for my friend (unless it already has some graphics programmed in, in which case it might have some "MoneyTime" animations that display on the screen although they wouldn't have any bearing on the slot game)?


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on September 28, 2009, 02:27:23 AM
I wouldn't keep my hopes up too high wishing that
there was Supremes behind every 16' award glass.
However, it would be a Miracle if the CON2 driver was in one of them...
but they are still in them, then your friend will be "Dancing In The Streets' !  :96- :136-


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: CaptainHappy on September 28, 2009, 03:42:46 AM
Kevin,

Maybe you want to send an email to John Acres as he should know alot about these setups. Maybe he gathered up info on these?

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=profile;u=1492 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=profile;u=1492)

Just a thought.

Regards,

Mark


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: knagl on September 28, 2009, 04:29:36 AM
I just sent him a message -- thank you for the suggestion.  :89-


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: idesign on September 28, 2009, 10:15:10 AM
Thanks for the info.  If I understand correctly, then without the CON2, the supreme is pretty useless for my friend (unless it already has some graphics programmed in, in which case it might have some "MoneyTime" animations that display on the screen although they wouldn't have any bearing on the slot game)?

You can use the Windows Downloader to load in text and graphics with a Supreme so they can be stand alone signs if you want them to be.


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on September 28, 2009, 11:42:50 AM

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You can use the Windows Downloader to load in text and graphics with a Supreme so they can be stand alone signs if you want them to be.
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Oh...that's cool! ...has that been documented on how that's done?
I think I have a few laying around collecting spider webs somewhere... :5-


Title: Re: Mikohn "MoneyTime" in S+ machines - what drives these displays?
Post by: brichter on September 28, 2009, 01:47:52 PM


You can use the Windows Downloader to load in text and graphics with a Supreme so they can be stand alone signs if you want them to be.
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Oh...that's cool! ...has that been documented on how that's done?
I think I have a few laying around collecting spider webs somewhere... :5-
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Check the Mikohn board...

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?board=26.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?board=26.0)

Hopefully some of those threads made it over from the old site...