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Can anyone tell me how to use the key chip to change options on my I Game?

firts take hold the chip called base and after put it key 22. turn on the machine and folog indications.

Hedgee, here's a link to a manual in the Submit New File section. It will answer most, if not all your questions.

http://www.newlifegames.net/uploads/up/GAME_KING_GAME_SOFTWARE_MANUAL.pdf (http://www.newlifegames.net/uploads/up/GAME_KING_GAME_SOFTWARE_MANUAL.pdf)

 Dan (tacman)

Thank you!!!  You guys are the best!

I'd like to read that, but it requires a password.

since the crash, that section has been closed.

Machine power off: Remove main board, remove base chip, insert key chip (correct one for your game) replace main board, power on machine., for key 17, wait for lights on board to light, then power down, remove key chip, replace base chip, replace main board and power on.  For chips with on screen menu, follow on screen menu, power down, remove key chip, replace base chip, replace board, power on machine.

W

This is a game king 4.3 with a key chip 22.

Are you saying you put the chip in, turn it on, then take it out, and now i have acess to changing the games?  Or is it,with the key chip make desired changes?


Thanks for your help, tho, but what is a base chip?

I put the key chip in, but the left two LEDs do not light.  So is it not being recognized?  However on the screen i get the option to "keychip after reboot" it then says put the base chip back in.  I do that and the machine goes right back to game mode, if i hit the operator button and try to change game options it says i have to have the key chip installed.

The changes are made once rebooted with base chip in. The key chip only "unlocks the door"  (meaning allows access to make changes).

Make sure machine doesn't have any credits on it. Once reboot, should go into key menu.  Your chip has on screen
 Menu, follow that, not lights.

W

First, thank you for your time :3-

After I put the base chip back in, it acts like nothing happened.

I'm on road on phone. Did you post your chip numbers/ software info?  Perhaps key22 not correct.

W

Try key17 if you have it

W

Now I'm curious, I'll go write down everything I have and post it.

Base
M0000837
12/13/02 (i-4002)

GME
G0002142 (2-080)

Intel i960

Game King Video Controller 1996

Hand written on the front of the tray is Addams Family Test Board  whatever that means.

It calls for KEY00017. (this doesn't mean others wont work)

W

just my luck.   I guess i have some calls to make.

Thanks for your help, this site is the best!

Jim at Bettor Slots took the time to post these instructions. I have them copied them and keep them on my desktop. THANKS JIM!   :259-
Might help.
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=12734.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=12734.0)

But i have key 22 and am told i need key 17.  I've already done the base key in out dance a bunch of times. 

I got the three green and one red bar with the 22 key, but once the base was back, it was like nothing had happened.  From the operator menu it still said need keychip to change. 

Thought I would throw that out there in case you might have missed a step.
 

Turns out i had to give a yes to the three options, and then it would let me change games etc. 

The first 2 times i tried the chip removal scheme I had credits on and of course that voids everything.  The next 2 I only selected option 3 and that didn't feed the bulldog, but setting the all three did.  And then what a womderfully bewildering array of choices await!  Denoms, games, game percentages, number of bets per game,  holy smokes.  I think i found a place for all the games.   Funny how the casinos just do the easy boring one size fits all approach.

Glad to hear you got it to work.

Thanks for letting us know,
Wayne

Too bad I couldnt figure out which menu controlled the money limits so now it prints a ticket when the money exceeds 400 or whatever.  I got distracted, what can I say.

But its fun, i get a kick out of the fact that people put hundreds of billions of dollars into these things.  Hilarious.

Why are some of the games called hidenom?

the hidenom paytables are designed mathematically for high denom play.  as an example, if you walk into a casino and sit at a 25¢ video poker machine would you expect it to play and pay the same as a $500 video poker machine?  of course not, the hidenom paytables compensate for the higher bets with better pays!

to change your credit and other limits you don't have to keychip it again!  :3- cashout any credits, open the main door and press the white test button on the mpu, touch the setup box on the screen then the machine options box and then the credit style setup box.  that should be where you find all of your limits!

Thank you for answering.  But what I dont get, is that some of the non-hidenom games have a higher payback %age than do the hidenom games.  Could it be that hidenom means fewer plays that  require 1099 intervention? 

If so, doesn't that suggest that software is now somewhere involved in manipulating outcomes, when we have all been told that the machine uses random cards from a  52 card deck?

I will do the setup thing and right now.  Isn't this all weird, somebody i don't know is now setting in motion the actions of somebody he does not know all because of this internet.

Wow is all i can say.

Happy  Holidays!

the software definitely affects the outcome of the game.  the chosen paytable will have a different hit frequency for each possible combination, this is where the hidenom paytables are different.  if you have the par sheet package for your base chip check out the non-hidenom vs. the hidenom side by side and you will probably see the differences.  all non wild card IGT video poker games use a 52 card deck each hand but the RNG selects the 10 card hand as soon as the bet button is pressed so you can theoretically see the same card several hands in a row.

 :270- to you and yours billb707.

Dang, you were right Mr. Rothstein, it did allow me to change the limits. 

Now I see another option, a tournament option, how is that turned on and off?

There's a lot i don't know about this thing isn't there!


Again, thank you for your responses.

(first six words from movie Casino)

Does changing the date require the key

I suspect it would.

That should be changeable without the key chip, but you may have to have ZERO credits on the machine to change the time and date settings. To be honest I have never tried chaning it with credit on the machine... May have to try next time?

On your other topic, I have noticed that on some of the high denom games that the paytables are slightly different around hits that would be awful close to a W2G hit... They work out to slightly under that $1200.00 limit. I assume for two reasons, to prevent a slot person having to come for a W2G hit as often, and to benefit the player with less taxable reportings to the IRS possibly???

CaptainHappy :95-

Whoa, Nelly, there's some misinformation here.   :81-



In Video Poker, the payback percentage is determined solely by the paytable.  Assuming no additional wild cards (Jokers), each hand uses one deck of 52 cards that are constantly getting "shuffled" (via the RNG), and the distribution of those cards is random. 

A quick way to demonstrate payback percentages would be to look at a machine where a Full House pays 9 coins per coin bet, and then look at another game that has an identical paytable, except that a Full House pays 8 coins per coin bet.  The payback is better (for the player) on the first machine because every time you hit a Full House you get paid more for it.

Whether or not a game is listed as "HiDenom", the payback percentage is a factor of each payout on the paytable, and nothing more.  There is no manipulation of the cards in a legitimate Class III ("Las Vegas-style") slot machine made by a company that does business in the state of Nevada.  (For example, IGT, WMS, etc.)

In the US, a W-2G is required to be issued whenever a single win of $1200 or more is hit on a machine.  It's not terribly common to see, but some Video Poker paytables short the normal 250 coin 5-coin payoff on a Straight Flush to 239.  Why?  Because if the machine is configured as a $5 denomination machine, that would make a Straight Flush pay off $1195 (instead of a W-2G eligible $1250 hit).  I'd look for that specifically on the "HiDenom" games if you have any enabled on your Game King, as that would be something useful to a $5 player.  In fact, this echos what CaptainHappy posted:

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The paytable selected has zero impact on the possibility of hands being awarded.  Whether four aces pays 2000 coins or 125 coins, it is just as likely to hit them*.  The machines uses a random shuffle of 52 cards (non-Joker games, again) and there is no manipulation of the hands that will be hit based on the paytable selected.

*Player strategy will change, however, depending on the paytable, which will affect the average number of times that a hand will be hit over the life of the machine.  Let's look at a full pay version of plain-Jane Jacks or Better (http://www.vpgenius.com/video-poker/jacks-or-better.aspx) game where all quads pay 125 coins, versus Super Aces Bonus (http://www.vpgenius.com/video-poker/super-aces-bonus-poker.aspx) where quad aces pays 2,000 coins.

In Jacks or Better, if you're dealt a full house of AAA55, the correct play is to hold the full house, and a smart player will do it every time.  If you're dealt AAA55 in Super Aces, the correct play is to dump the full house and only keep the three aces (hoping for the 4th since it has a big payoff), and a smart player will do that every time.  As such, with intelligent players, a Super Aces machine will have hit quad aces more times over the life of the machine versus the Jacks or Better machine, but that's because players are adjusting their strategy to go for the aces more frequently.  Assuming the same manufacturer and platform, both machines use the same random method to determine the cards, and nothing is manipulated, but the Super Aces machine will have hit more quad aces over its lifetime simply due to more players going for that hand.  Both machines are equally likely to be dealt quad aces, quad 5s, dealt straights, dealt flushes, drawn straights, drawn flushes, etc.



All modern-day machines (including all versions of the Game King) select five cards when the player presses "deal", and then continues to shuffle the remaining cards until the exact moment that the player presses the "draw" button, at which point the replacement cards are selected and displayed.  This was confirmed in a 2001 interview with IGT's (at least at the time) Chief Software Engineer, James Vasquez.

In the 2006 American Casino Guide, author Steve Bourie printed that interview he had in 2001.  Vasquez stated that IGT's machines in Nevada (as well as other jurisdictions, only specifically saying that some lottery jurisdictions require a different method) deal five cards, and then wait for player interaction (pressing the Draw button) before the next five cards are determined.

That means that they switched to a 5-and-5 deal over 10 years ago -- perhaps even longer.
 
Here is the link to that page of the interview:

http://bit.ly/ds1yy2 (http://bit.ly/ds1yy2)

I would love to see the computer code for these programs.  Has anybody ever disassembled it?

Hi! I succeed to crash one of my base chip pins, and I need new one. How can I find new? Everything thats reads on the chip:


ST
M2704002
10B1
22071 V5
MLT 88529

Any help would be really nice (I have a bad english <--)