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Title: Strange Chips
Post by: jdkmunch on October 22, 2009, 10:40:20 PM
My Triple Bonus Frenzy kit came with really strange chips

E812741X-05

I think there 83% - if that's possible



Title: Re: Strange Chips
Post by: Tilt on March 25, 2010, 12:42:54 AM
jdkmunch,

I have the same chips in my Triple Bonus Frenzy.  I think you're being generous callin' it 83%.   Mine is to tight that...well never mind  :97-  Did you find anything that pays better than this lousy set?


Title: Re: Strange Chips
Post by: KirkLasVegas on March 25, 2010, 01:00:46 AM
jdkmunch,

I have the same chips in my Triple Bonus Frenzy.  I think you're being generous callin' it 83%.   Mine is to tight that...well never mind  :97-  Did you find anything that pays better than this lousy set?

WOW!  where is 83% legal?  Nevada is a minimum of 88%   that sounds like a chipset for a Indian casino.....


Kirk


Title: Re: Strange Chips
Post by: Tilt on March 25, 2010, 01:51:20 AM
Good question.  When I get back home I'll have to try to see if there's enough gaming tape left on it to see where it was at.  I usually peel as much of that stuff as I can so you can read the numbers below it, and so that dust/dirt doesn't get stuck to it.


Title: Re: Strange Chips
Post by: a69mopar on March 25, 2010, 01:56:17 AM
can you check for a 4 digit smi number in the top right corner of the chip.


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Title: Re: Strange Chips
Post by: Tilt on March 25, 2010, 02:06:32 AM
Thanks Wayne.  Will do when I get back this weekend.


Title: Re: Strange Chips
Post by: StatFreak on March 25, 2010, 07:06:30 AM
jdkmunch,

I have the same chips in my Triple Bonus Frenzy.  I think you're being generous callin' it 83%.   Mine is to tight that...well never mind  :97-  Did you find anything that pays better than this lousy set?

WOW!  where is 83% legal?  Nevada is a minimum of 88%   that sounds like a chipset for a Indian casino.....


Kirk

Kirk, when was the law changed in Nevada? It used to be 75%. If you can still find a large board keno game or a video keno game with a 1 spot ticket, then the 75% rule still applies, since there is no other way to pay the 1 spot (1 in 4 odds; pays 3 for 1). I have seen Bally EMs -- particularly models with the lightning strips -- that have had payouts in the high 70's.


Title: Re: Strange Chips
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 25, 2010, 12:45:16 PM
All the "Indian" casinos are really just a "storefront" for the state they operate in.
They are strictly regulated and totally owned by the state.
Because they fall under the NIGC regulations  ( a Federal entity) ...try getting a copy of the
percentages of the chips...It's like pulling hen's teeth.
The "Indian" casinos around here happen to use
chips that fall anywhere between 90.2% to 98.5%.
The casinos in Nevada,NJ and riverboats use chips that are harder to win on than here.
Why? Corporate taxes.
The "Indian" casinos are a loop hole in the tax laws for the "Apple Indians"
or "Indian Wannabees"... :72-
 


Title: Re: Strange Chips
Post by: knagl on March 25, 2010, 09:52:23 PM
All the "Indian" casinos are really just a "storefront" for the state they operate in.
They are strictly regulated and totally owned by the state.

We've had this conversation before -- in Minnesota, the state doesn't get a penny from the Native American casinos (aside from under-the-table lobbying money and the like).  The state compact in Minnesota does not provide for a cut of the profits.


Title: Re: Strange Chips
Post by: Tilt on March 31, 2010, 07:43:10 PM
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can you check for a 4 digit smi number in the top right corner of the chip.

The only other number on the chips are the checksums.  U18 = 5D00 & U20 = 22A3.  If it's in the file I can check that if you have the address where it's located.  The machine's last home was in Atlantic City.


Title: Re: Strange Chips
Post by: jdkmunch on March 31, 2010, 09:03:53 PM
That's cool -   I like to know the history of my machines.    It's a nice feeling to know what casino it was in and where.  :89-


Title: Re: Strange Chips
Post by: Tilt on April 01, 2010, 10:51:37 PM
That's cool -   I like to know the history of my machines.    It's a nice feeling to know what casino it was in and where.  :89-

We may share the same (apparently not so readily available) chipset, but that doesn't necessarily mean that our machines came from the same jurisdiction.  Mine had a "MEAL" ticket book in it, so no doubt where it was before I got it.  I still like to find something with a better payout then what we have, whatever that may be.