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Went to a slot distibutor in mid Ohio today to buy 2 Gamemakers they had on Ebay for $450.  According to the ad these machines were "spotless, inside and out".  The lady took me into the warehouse and showed me 4 rows of 2 machines, each row consisting of a V7200 and a V7000. The older man in the place grabbed a dolly and started pulling out 2 machines from back row.  I told him I will take the 2 machines right up front where I was standing.  The 2 machines I wanted  were in the exact condition as the ad said, spotless.  They told me NO, you cant have those, you have to pick the machines from the back row first.  I said No, I like these 2 right here, I'll take them.  Again I was told NO, we are selling them from back to front.  I said what the hell is the difference, they are all selling for the same price, I'll buy these. So relunctantly,  I walked over to look at them. Monitors were TOAST,burnt to a crisp,  and the cabinet formica was scratched, torn and peeling off in some places and the insides were totally caked with tobacco dust.  I again mentioned the Ebay ad to her about the machines being spotless and the ones they insisted on me buying werent even in the same ballpark. She once again told me that they were selling the machines from back to front and it wouldnt be fair to the other Ebayers if I were to jump in front of the line.  Being the only customer there, with cash in my pocket, I looked around and asked her if she was frickin kiddin me. Well I was always told the early bird gets the worm, found out that rule dont apply here. Told her that whenever she sells those 3 rows of crap, call me. I'm buying the 4th row.  What a waste of gas!!!!! 
Pokernut

This kind of stuff happens way too often.  I glad you didn't buy the crap.  :81-

where they 2 for $450 or $450 each?  Caroline and Randy?

Can you copy & paste a link to the ebay ad you were talking about?
It's not clear which machine you wanted. The V7200 or the V7000?

Oh, I see the auction now, 2 parts incomplete (no main boards) machines.
http://cgi.ebay.com/BALLY-GAME-MAKER-MULTI-TOUCH-SCREEN_W0QQitemZ370296585521QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5637657d31 (http://cgi.ebay.com/BALLY-GAME-MAKER-MULTI-TOUCH-SCREEN_W0QQitemZ370296585521QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5637657d31)

Their game kings look to be a much better deal with I-Games installed by the sounds of it.   I don't like the bait and switch though and would have walked like you did.

W

I too would have walked  but not without making a  big stink 1st  , you were there cash in hand  ad says  clean  that what you  spent your time driving to get,
 hopefully your post will save others the trip . Also noticed  those in pic  had numbers on them if they were in front row those you should have got,  the game king deal sounds great I know I couldn,t or wouldn,t sell at that price  I just wonder what you,ll get for that deal funny the pic of g/k is hiding one game
steve

I almost bought a Uni from them a few years back.  I put a bid on the machine, made a phone call to them, and then had a bad feeling. Thank goodness I was outbid (can you believe that) at the last minute. It would have been a 300 mile roundtrip!
Sorry to hear you made the trip for nothing!
K+ for sharing your experience.

Having never dealt with them, I can't say if they are good or bad.

Bummer about the drive.  Always said people with BAD BUSINESS PRACTICE end up loosing 5-10 times more in the long run compared to what they might have gained in the short run

I will call Caroline and Randy in the morning and
see what in the world happened...
I have had nothing but good dealings with them.
Any vendor knows that bad word of mouth flies through the grapevine faster than  :58-

Did you bid/win the ones on eBay?  If so, did you leave negative feedback since the machines were nowhere near what the eBay auction indicated?

No, I never placed a bid.  Since they were an hour away I first wanted to see what I was bidding on or buying.

I called at 9:57 e.s.t. but no answer...are they open on Saturday mornings?

Not bidding shouldn,t change any thing if they were willing to sell you  it was a buy it now auction also  you think they would junp at your sale since they wouldn,t have to pay ebay. Really wonder where all the boards went from those game makers  someplace here we have a newer game make board  that wouldn,t fit out sitdown one   we payed like 110 for it  when i find i,ll post here maybe someone can use it
Steveuote]

Well,
I just got off the phone with Caroline and I think it was just a big misunderstanding.
I think it was unfortunate what happened yes but she said that they're all in the same good condition.
No boards, they don't have them...they don't usually deal with V7000 or V72000 platform.

I have been following this thread.  As a note,  Look at pokernut's opening post to this as to the condition etc..  He evidently was just there and seen the games.  This is in response to the others he was offered after the ones he wanted that were clean etc. was not available for some reason as the ad had said.  I am also just-innocent by-stander here taking the info in.  Perhaps there may be some details missing.  The way the deal looks to me as it stands is Not Good.  -That is just my opinion.  Thanks B.

Quote[Perhaps there may be some details missing]End Quote

Haha! You think?
I agree with both you guys and I've invited Caroline here to NLG
to participate in this so we can hear both sides of the story...
perhaps she can fix any misunderstandings.
I think we should get all the facts first before anything else?

Same here but I have a question about their other auction with the Gamekings.
http://cgi.ebay.com/5-IGT-GAME-KING-TOUCH-SCREEN-VIDEO-POKER-KENO_W0QQitemZ370296590443QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item563765906b
This is straight from their auction..

"Here is a lot of five (5) IGT  19  INCH TOUCH SCREEN VIDEO GAMES, SOME  OF THESE  HAVE MULTI GAMES UP TO 10 GAMES PER MACHINE.  (1) has Texas Tea, one has Stinkin Rich, call me for more details on these games at 419-522-3777.  They all power up, parts complete and have 19 inch monitors.  these machines are very clean.  Some of these games already have credits on them to play."

Correct me if Im wrong but they look like regular Gamekings.They said one has Stickin Rich on it.How could it have that,its a 044 game?

What makes me wonder with game king auction is when your selling something why take such lane pic,s hiding 2 games

Maybe because the two that you can't see don't have monitors?
If you enlarge the pic's the one in the back on the right hand side looks to be missing the monitor.

I didnt notice that,I think you are correct.

Stinkin Rich isn't just an 044 game.  I have it, and mine isn't 044, I do love the Lynard Skynard song on it "That Smell"  The casino probably did a partial conversion with only the minimum.  Still a good deal though.

Thanks,
Wayne

Wayne,

Is yours a I+?
Didnt know that it is available in something other than the 044 or AVP.

They could have converted one of the games to the 044,but at that price I doubt it.

Yes it's an I+   Base I0001311 c0001676, this is a great game.

Thanks,
Wayne

Thanks Wayne,thats another I want to add to my want list.

I agree,a very fun game to play,very close to Bombay.

Back to the beginning,if all of them are the same why not sell the front two. They make a sale and everybody is happy.   :103-

Guess you would of had to be there,which I was not

Good news travels fast, bad news travels like lightening. I believe that certain dealers in this business will survive based on their rep and others will fall by the wayside. Every year it looks like the good column is getting smaller and smaller.

Moneys tight  people do dumb things trying to keep head above water ,They never think about the long term,Few of the reasons we left nj  were slot laws and high taxes my real tax in nj was almost 800 a week, here in va $25 aweek,   Again  treat people right  they will tell others in the long run you,ll comeout ahead

Again I am "nicely" checking all this out.  As of now pokernut still has the beef with this one.   I am waiting on the "Defense" to rise as of yet to chk out this one.  If not then they may be just to busy.  Thanks B.

Yes, we should wait for all the facts to come out before any judgement is passed. I never had any problems dealing with them either so lets wait until people come on here to give their side. I prefer to remain objective and neutral as I think anyone else would expect the same.

  I agree,  This is becoming a blown up deal and possible bashing involved. .  Those problems could be handled in pm's, e-mail, phone calls etc..  The member pokernut was just expressing his dealings with said such.  I bet it ends up okay in the end.   Just my  guess.  B.

To put this issue to bed, I think the lady could have cleared this up very quickly.  She kept saying it wouldnt be fair to the people on Ebay if I jump the line and dont pull from the rear.  I told her I was here for the Ebay auction and wanted those 2 front machines.  All she had to say was If you want those machines, use the Buy It Now  on Ebay and buy them.  I already had a friend on standby for that very purpose.  One quick cell phone call, he would have bought them online and I would have paid her the cash.  I would have gotten my machines and everybody would have been happy.  Thats why I thought I was getting scammed.  Those 2 front machines were off the table, and I couldnt have them - period.  Why she didnt say that, I'll never know.
The End

PS:
Regarding those GameKings.  I took a very quick look at them ( about 30sec.)  and they really didnt look too bad.  One had a couple large scuffs marks on the back and side of the cabinet, but I think a little elbow grease and it would have cleaned up very nicely.  And as far as I could tell they were all parts complete. I did not notice any monitors missing.  Like I said, it was a very quick look and I wasnt there to buy those machines, so I didnt go into any in-depth inspection
Pokernut

Pokernut,  There are some other good reliable folks to deal with out here.  Unfortantly we sometimes have to learn this the hard way- :25-.  I agree put this to rest and K+ to you and Happy Holidays.  B.

Just a quick reply to all these posts in regards to Mid Ohio Slot Machines. I would first like to let anyone here know we have been in business since 1994, same location,,same phone number,
I do not think that we would still be in business and have sold several thousands of slot machines over the years, if these acqusations were true. I asure you that we have never and will never
do/pull a bait and switch as you call it.  We buy machines from various brokers across the USA. These machines in question Game Kings, Bally Multi games woithout boards, came in November 19th 2009.  Someone posted here that 2 of the machines looked as if they were missing monitors, Sorry, I am not a proffessional photographer, I assure you that all five are parts complete
including monitors and YES,  there are a few scuffs on the Game Kings-Keno...., #2 reference the Bally Pokers without the CPU boards, they are listed on ebay at $450.00 for both of them, NOT each. We up from 10 to 15 percent above what we pay for them and wholesale them out.  Having said the above, I hope I have cleared up a few of your replies on this site. If anyone  has any questions regarding ANY of our machines Please feel free to call us during regular business hours 10am to 4pm mon-fri,  419-522-3777. I would be glad to answer any of your questions as honestly as I can. I assure you that we are stable enough, that we do not need to rip anyone off for a few hundred dollars. to everyone on this site, we wish you all the happiest of holidays. 

Caroline A Miller  Mid Ohio Slot Machines  Mansfield  Ohio

Caroline,
I am glad you came on and voiced your side of the story... :3- :3- :131-

Don't know anything about Pokernut experience but stopped by there a year or so ago and met Randy and Caroline. Bought a few things for
my S+, nice people.

Ron (r273)

Well ..... I have never, to my knowledge bought anything from MidOhioSlots. Here is my take on this. Pokernut when you went and saw the machines that were listed were as advertised in the Ebay auction, you should have had your buddy do the buy it now for you. MidOhioSlots technically could NOT have sold them to you if they were still under the auction. Those particular machines pictured are reserved for that auction transaction. Now, how do we know its those actual machines? Unless there are identifying numbers or markings, I don't know. If you had won the auction and they still refused to sell you those front two, you still could have refused because the items provided were not as listed.

Now on MidOhioSlots side, your response covered questions about your auctions in relation to parts/monitors, but when it came to the reason why this post was generated, your response was that you never did nor never will pull a bait and switch. It really does not answer Pokernuts allegations and seems to indicate it just never happened.

A reasonable man would seem to it unlikely that:
1. A member would drive to your location and not buy any decent machines after a long drive
2. Make up a story about a bait and switch
3. Post their displeasure and concerns on NLG so other members would be aware of the situation

Everyone here will make up their own minds about this, but I just wanted to post what I saw without any involvement with either party.

 Dan (tacman)

bottom line is the ebay activity you have offered over the yrs has been proven that you have shill bid your own auctions .
with the proof still lying on ebay .. im not saying your not a good dealer or bad dealer .

  when someone as myself stands up and recalls the other user names registered  you . when ebay allowed full name disclosure on bidding etc  .. it still does on acount history names ..i dont think you really want to drift into those waters .. >> JEEPERSCREEPERS<<

 have a nice day .

Did I miss something? she never said why she didn,t just sell him the 2 gamemakers  cash in hand is always good

I have NEVER bought a slot machine off E-bay and probably won't. I prefer to go and SEE the machines up front even if it is a long drive. Like I said, you can look at all my other posts and see when I've been and gone to get the 2 machines I now have. The 1st machine that I bought was from a guy in Reading, PA and I lived in Carmel, NY at the time so it was a haul. At the end of the day, if I didn't like what I saw, I wouldn't have bought and that would have been that. Unless a e-bayer has a really good + rating and shows lots of photos in the auction page, forget it.

As far as buying a machine ..any machine . being a first time buyer or repeat buyer .. slot-machines -arcade machines - etc etc . there are always good sellers private sales .. Dealers that are reputable .. from word of mouth or other .

 The thing people FORGET .. when you buy a "USED" slotmachine --used car --- the demo  LCD flat screen T. V. at SEARS etc after the holidays .. is that you are buying a in most cases 'USED " ITEM OR REMANUFACTURED SLOTMACHINE .

When I was in high school 30 yrs ago I started a automobile starter & alternator rebuilding business --"remanufactured" which means under definition in simple man/woman terms --replace what is broke -make it look nice - market product - pray it outlast the warranty period .

SO when i see Items for sale that say 10 point inspection -90 point inspection  great !!  its a inspection !! nothing else .

was anything replaced ?? or rebuilt ?? the simple cleaning of machine -bulbs -update DBV if equipped . It is still used and subject to break down over time .

so to go look at any machine you buy .. so you can see it work is the best .. if you have any doughts of the seller walk away ..
there are 100's of sellers of machines .. but remember even a machine that has been rebuilt with normal parts that wear out & the movement of machine by shipping carrier can destroy all the hard work the seller did .

botton line is a used item is used and subject to any possible failure beyond the sellers control . even if it was refurbished and the 90 -point inspection ..

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just to give proper definition below :
Remanufacturing is the process of disassembly and recovery at the module level and, eventually, at the component level. It requires the repair or replacement of worn out or obsolete components and modules. Parts subject to degradation affecting the performance or the expected life of the whole are replaced.