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Often, SET05/15/17 or 20  can be used for most Denomination and DBV enable. SET Chips listed are per the PSR and might be required to set up special features (progressives, etc.)

Here is a list with a general description of the game "types":
http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/gametypes.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/gametypes.htm)

SP051 Four-reel "Jackpot Devil" game (SS3364 - SS3368) - "SP051 extends the spin time on the fourth reel."
SP116 (256K) Saraha Freeplay
SP450 Type 19 (4th Coin Buy-A-Pay) 10MHz, $0.05/0.10, SET005 - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP540 Type 2 (Haywire)
SP541 Type 0,1,4,5
SP557 Type 0,14 (Cruise Ship Eprom?) 10MHz, $0.05/0.10, SET005 - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP564 Type 23 ID023
SP574 Type 0,1,4,5,12 10MHz, $0.05/0.10, SET005 - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP589 Type ? 10MHz - Quartermania Wide Area Progressive (works with SS3739)
SP600 Type 17 (Bonus Multiplier Feature) 10MHz, $0.05/0.10, SET005 ("or later versions", per the PSR) - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP605 Type 2 (Haywire) ID022
SP611 Type 0,1,4,5,12 10MHZ, ID022
SP625 Type 0,1,4,5,12
SP626 Type 0,1,?
SP646 Type 2 (Haywire)
SP650 Type 3 Volcano
SP653 Type 2 (Haywire)
SP654 Type 23
SP676 ?
SP686 Type 2
SP688 Type 3 Volcano
SP690 ?
SP694 High Roller ?
SP708 Type 0,1,4,5,12 ID022, SET005/15/17/26, $0.05/0.10, SAS EFT with SET017 or SET026
SP709 type 0,1,4,5,12
SP731 type 0,1,4,5,12 ID 2.5
SP733 Type 0,1,4,5,12 - SET005/15/17
SP737 Type 2 (Haywire)
SP738 Montana Credit
SP766 Type 0,1,4,5
SP773 Type ? 
SP779 Type 2,21 (Haywire & Haywire DLX)
SP790 Type 21 (Haywire DLX)
SP798 Type 19
SP804 Type 0,1,4,5
SP805 Type 2 (Haywire) ID 2.5
SP809 Type 0,1,4,5
SP810 Type 20 (Double Chance) ID 2.5 (ID023)
SP811 Type 0,14 (unverified - PSR needed)
SP813 Type 2 SET019
SP830 Type 0, 14 (14 is Tournament)
SP831 Type 0,1,4,5
SP849 Type 19?
SP857 Type 0,4 ID 2.5
SP862 Type 0,14 (and others?) SET026 (PSR NEEDED)
SP872 Type 0,1,4,5 ID023, SET026, $0.01/0.05
SP873 Type 2,21 (Haywire, Haywire DLX) ID 2.5, SET005/15/17/26.  SET026 allows $0.01/0.05 - all others allow $0.05/0.10+.  SAS EFT with SET017 or SET026.
SP874 Type 3,6 (Volcano, Tidal Wave) ID 2.5, SET026, $0.01/0.05
SP875 Type 0,1,4,5
SP878 Type 0,1,4,5 ID 2.5
SP879 Type 19?
SP922 Type 0,1,4,5,14 (14 is Tournament) ID 2.5, $0.01/$0.05
SP932 Type 0,1,4,5 ID 2.5 (original version of this post said "wba"), $0.01/$0.05, SET046
SP935 Type 0,4 ID 2.5 $0.01/0.05
SP934 Type 2,21 (Haywire & Haywire DLX), SET019
SP939 ?
SP941 Type 19?
SP943 Type 37 (Run for your Money)
SP944 Type 25 ID023, SET058 or SET076 (Bonus Sizzling 7's where the 300 coin red 7s pay a bonus. Requires a light bar for the bonus feature in the top box.)
SP945 Type 2
SP946 Type 19 10MHz ID023, SET058/76 $0.01/0.05
SP949 Type 25  (Bonus Sizzling 7's where the 300 coin red 7s pay a bonus. Requires a light bar for the bonus feature in the top box.)
SP980 Type 32 (Pinball (3-Coin)) 16MHz?, ID2.5, SET053/57 0.05 - SAS EFT with SET053
SP993 Type 0,1,4,5 10MHz?, ID2.5, SET030 0.01/0.05 - SAS EFT and Bonusing
SP1002 Type 38 (Little Devils) 16MHz, ID023, SET062 0.05 - SAS Bonusing
SP1003 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz, ID 2.4, SET019 0.01/0.02 - SAS Enhanced Cashless Transaction (ECT)
SP1004 Type 0,1,4,5 10Mhz, ID 2.5, 0.05 - Supports 9 Paylines - SAS Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT) if SET020 is used
SP1005 Type 41 (Cash Quest, Party Time), 16MHz?, ID023, SET054/59 0.25 only - SAS EFT with SET054
SP1006 Type 37 (Run for your Money), 16MHz?, ID023, SET054/59 0.25 only - SAS EFT with SET054
SP1007 Type 32 (Pinball DLX, Party Time), 16MHz, ID023, SET054/59 0.25 only - SAS EFT with SET054
SP1008 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz, ID023, SET016 0.01/0.02 Tokenized - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1009 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz, ID 2.4, SET011 0.01/0.02 Tokenized - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1010 Type 30 (IGCA Interface Bonus) 10MHz, ID023, 0.05 - SAS EFT if SET020 is used
SP1011 Type 2 (Haywire) 10MHz, ID 2.4, SET011, 0.01/0.02 Tokenized - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1012 Type 3,6 (Volcano,Tidal Wave) 10MHz, ID 2.4, SET011, 0.01/0.02 Tokenized - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1013 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz, ID023, SET019, 0.01/0.02 Tokenized - SAS ECT
SP1014 Type 0,1,4,5,12,14 10MHz, ID023, SET011, 0.01/0.02 Tokenized - Supports 9 paylines - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1015 Type 27,29 (Wheel of Gold, Wheel of Fortune) 10MHz, ID023, SET054/60 - SAS EFT with SET054
SP1016 Type 30 (IGCA Interface Bonus) 10MHz, ID023, SET58, 0.01/0.05 - SAS EFT
SP1017 Type 27,29 (Wheel of Gold, Wheel of Fortune) 10MHz, ID023, SET041, 0.05 - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1018 Type 0,4 10MHz, ID 2.5, SET064, 0.01/0.05 "Mini Bertha" - SAS Bonusing
SP1019 Type 0,1,4,5 16MHz, ID023, SET070/77/78, 0.01/0.05 - SAS EFT and Bonusing if SET077 is used

SP1020 (Originally listed with the information for SP1022 (below) -- believed to have been in error)
SP1022 Type 27 (Wheel of Gold) 10MHz, ID023, SET019, 0.01/0.02 Tokenized - SAS ECT
SP1023 Type 31 (Jeopardy) 16MHz, ID023, SET041 0.05 - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1024 Type 33 (Top Dollar) 16MHz, ID023, SET053/57, 0.05, Req Add on Mem PCB - SAS EFT if SET053 is used
SP1025 Type 37 (Run for your Money) 16MHz, ID023, SET053/57, 0.05, Req Add on Mem PCB - SAS EFT if SET053 is used
SP1036 Type 37 (Run for your Money) 16MHz, ID023, SET069/73, 0.05, Req Add on Mem PCB - SAS Bonusing and EFT if SET069 is used
SP1048 Type 0,1,4,5 10Mhz, ID023, SET058/76,  $0.01/0.05 - SAS EFT if SET058 is used
SP1049 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 (Tournament), ID023, SET019, $0.01/0.02 - SAS ECT
SP1057 Type 19 (4th coin BAP) 10MHz, ID023, SET011, $0.01/0.02, Tokenized, Semi Euro Credit option, bill acceptor country code selection - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1059 Type 2,21 (Haywire & Haywire Deluxe), ID023, SET019, $0.01/0.02, Tokenized, Semi Euro Credit option, bill acceptor country code selection - SAS ECT
SP1061 Type 19 (4th coin BAP) 10MHz, ID023, SET011, $0.01/0.02, Tokenized, Semi Euro Credit option, bill acceptor country code selection - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer (appears to be a clone of SP1057 - I don't see a difference)
SP1077 Type 20 (PSR NEEDED)
SP1085 Type 2 (Haywire), ID-023, SET058/76, $0.01/0.05 -  SAS EFT if SET058 is used
SP1092 Type 37 (Run for your Money) (PSR NEEDED)
SP1106 Type 32 (Barcrest Pinball - 3 Coin Only) 16MHz, SET053/57, $0.05/0.10/0.25+ - SAS EFT if SET053 is used
SP1115 Type 38 (Little Devils) 16MHz, ID023, SET091/101/102, $0.01/0.05/0.10/0.25+ - SAS Bonusing and EFT (does not specify which SET chip can activate)
SP1131 ?
SP1135 Type 38 (Little Devils) 16MHz, ID023, SET062, $0.05/0.10/0.25+ - SAS Bonusing
SP1136 Type 37 (Needs Set 91 to enable progressive) (PSR NEEDED)
SP1137 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 (Tournament), ID023, SET086, $0.01/0.02, (Supports Montana-style "Semi Euro credit" (setting 5) or Tokenization (setting 7).), 9 paylines - SAS ECT
SP1145 Type 0,1,4,5 16MHz, ID023, SET089/90/91, $0.01/0.05 (This listing originally listed SET088, but that's not mentioned in the PSR) - SAS Bonusing
SP1146 Type 2,21 (Haywire, Haywire DLX) 16MHz, ID023, SET088/89/90/91, $0.01/0.05 - SAS Bonusing
SP1147 Type 0,1,4,5 16MHz (PSR NEEDED)
SP1148 Type 14 Tournament (PSR NEEDED)
SP1157 Type 51 (Spell Binder) 16MHz, ID023, SET088/91/101/102, $0.01/0.05/0.10/0.25+ - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1160 Type 0,1,4,5 10MHz, ID023, SET088/89/90/91, $0.01,0.05, 9 Paylines - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1166 Type 37 (Run For Your Money) 16MHz, ID023, SET088/91/101/102, $0.01/0.05/0.10/0.25+ - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1174 Type 0,1,4,5,12,14 10Mhz, ID023, SET087, $0.01/0.02, Supports 9 Paylines, Tokenized - SAS EFT
SP1175 Type 0,1,4,5 10MHz, ID023, SET088/89/90/91, $0.01/0.05 - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1176 Type 0,1,4,5 (designed for use with leased linked games - see PSR for list), 16MHz, ID023, SET107 - SAS Bonusing
SP1181 Type 44 (Hot Rod) 16MHz, ID023, SET088/91/101/102, $0.01/0.05/0.10/0.25+ - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1184 Type 44 (Hot Rod) 16MHz (PSR NEEDED)
SP1191 Type 37 (Needs Set 91 to enable progressive) (PSR NEEDED)
SP1192 Type 37 (Needs Set 91 to enable progressive) (PSR NEEDED)
SP1206 Type 0,1,4,5,19 10MHz, ID023, SET088/91/101/102, $0.01/0.05, 9 Paylines - SAS communication, no mention of credit transfer
SP1207 Type 2,21 10MHz (PSR NEEDED)
SP1213 Type 0,1,4,5,12,14 (Tournament) 10mhz, ID023, SET111, $0.01/$0.02, 9 Paylines, Tokenized - SAS Bonusing and EFT
SP1224 Type 0,19 "(Mini Bertha)", 10MHz, ID023, SET088/91/101/102/116, $0.01/0.05 - does NOT support SAS Bonusing
SP1227 Type 0,1,4,5,19 10MHz, ID023, SET088,91,101,102,116, $0.01/0.05, 9 Paylines - does NOT support SAS Bonusing
SP1228 Type 20 (Double Chance) 10MHz, ID023, SET088/91/101/102/116, $0.01/0.05 - does NOT support SAS Bonusing
SP1229 Type 2,21 (Haywire/Haywire Deluxe) 10MHz (originally listed as 16MHz -- PSR says 10MHz), ID023, SET088/91/101/102/116, $0.01/0.05 - does NOT support SAS Bonusing
SP1240 Type 0,1,4,5 (designed for use with leased linked games - see PSR for list), 16MHz, ID023, SET107 - SAS Bonusing
SP1242 Type 0,1,4,5,19 10MHz, ID023, SET088/91/101/102/116/121, 9 Paylines, $0.01/0.05 - SAS EFT - does NOT support SAS Bonusing
SP1249 Type 20 (Double Chance) 10MHz, ID023, SET088/89/90/91/101/102/116/121, $0.01/0.05 - SAS EFT - does NOT support SAS Bonusing
SP1252 Type 2/21 (Haywire/Haywire Deluxe) 16MHz, ID023, SET088/89/90/91/101/102/116/121, $0.01/0.05 - SAS Bonusing and EFT
SP1253 Type 0/1/4/5/14 (Tournament) ID023, SET088/89/90/91/101/102/116/121, $0.01/0.05 - SAS EFT
SP1271 Type 0,1,4,5,19 10MHz, ID023, SET088/89/90/91/101/102/116/121 $0.01/0.05, 9 Paylines - SAS EFT - does NOT support SAS Bonusing

SP1272 Type 0,1,4,5 16MHz (originally listed as 10MHz -- it's 16 MHz per the PSR and Rick Hunter), ID023, SET088/90/91/101/102/121, $0.01/0.05, SAS Bonusing and EFT
SP1274 Type 2,21 (Haywire/Haywire Deluxe) 10MHz, ID023, $0.01/0.05, SAS EFT - does NOT support SAS Bonusing
SP1289 Type 25 ID023, SET058 or SET076 (Bonus Sizzling 7's where the 300 coin red 7s pay a bonus. Requires a light bar for the bonus feature in the top box.) (PSR NEEDED)
SP1306 Type 23 (Random Nudge) 10MHz, ID023, SET088/089/090/091/101/102/116/121, $0.01/0.05 - SAS EFT - does NOT support SAS Bonusing
SP1309 Type 0,1,4,5,14 (Tournament) 16MHz, ID023, SET088/89/90/91/101/102/121, $0.01/0.05 - SAS EFT
SP1311 Type 0,1,4,5,14 (Tournament) 10MHz ("much faster than SP1253") ID023, $0.01/0.05, SET088/89/90/91/101/102/116 - SAS EFT
SP1312 Type 3,6 (Volcano,Tidal Wave) SET058/076  $0.01/$0.05 (PSR NEEDED)

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STXXXX Chips Replace the Reel chip and are used for Tournament Type 14

ST0001 3CM Double Diamond/Gold Mountain 95.08%, SS3634
ST0002 3CM Double Diamond/gold Mountain/Victory 95.084% SS3634
ST0003 2CM RWB 94.675%, SS3285
ST0004 2CM RWB 92.474%, SS3286
ST0005 5CM Cartoon Wild Cherry 87.173%, SS4218
ST0008 2CM RWB 90.109%, SS3287
ST0009 5CM Wild Cherry/Cartoon Wild Cherry 90.55%, SS3499
ST0010 2CM DBL JKPTS,5bar,cherry/DBL$$,5bar,cherry 90.149%, SS3043
ST0011 2CM RWB/Gold Silver and Bronze/Win, Place and Show 90.109% SS3287
ST0012 2CM Double Diamond 90.032%, SS3443
ST0014 3CM Double Diamond 90.010%, SS3632
ST0015 3CBP Sizzling 7's  95.45%  SS3640?
ST0018         Super Sizzling sevens 87.62%                                                                                                            
ST0019 3CM Double Diamond/gold Mountain/Victory 95.081% SS3634
ST0020 3CM Dbl RWB/Dbl Black Jack/Dbl Black Tie/Hot Peppers 87.547 SS4713
ST0021 3CM RWB 83.21%, SS4555
ST0023 3CM Double Double Diamond 95.102%, SS6205
ST0025 3CM Triple Diamond 95.059%, SS4785
ST0026 3CM Triple Diamond 90.017%, SS4787
ST0027 3CM Triple Jackpots 95.046%, SS6266
ST0028 3CM Triple Jackpots 90.081%, SS6268
ST0031 3CM Five Times Pay 95.10% SS6272
ST0032 3CM Five Times Pay 90.045% SS6274
ST0034 2CM Jokers Wild 94.707% SS3823
ST0035 5L  Gold Mountain/Double Diamond 87.42%
ST0036 3CM Five Times Pay 92.513%, SS6273
ST0040 2CM WS RWB 90.040%, SS3656
ST0041 2CM RWB 94.675% SS3285
ST0042 3CM RWB 94.887%, SS3280
ST0053  2C   CUSTOME GAME “ CEASARS PALACE Top award     1,600.00
ST0058 3CBP Sizzling 7's  91.97%
ST0059  3R3CM FIVE TIMES PAY   Top Award    15,000.00        
ST0060 3CM 5X Pay 2550.240% Tourney, 90.045% Normal, SS6274

Thanks to all those that have provided extra info!

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By idesign

SP 1160 has been tested in a 16mhz machine and it doesn't work.  10mhz only.

Anyone know of a Type 19 that runs at 16mhz?

By fanninislots -

An SP1271 will work for a 16 meg board

By Cactusjack -

Ben, Are you sure?   The PSR specifically states "this must be installed on a 10 MHz board."

CJ

by idesign


I tried it and it has the usual timing issues with reels locking up on a 16mhz baord.

By brian


SP686 is a type 2


Quote from: Cactusjack on November 23, 2005, 04:35:04 PM

By brian -


From another message board:

SP1253 Type 0/1/4/5/14

By mrcreel


What is a ST0018?
I've looked everywhere but am unable to find any information.  I'm told it is a Sizzlin 7 Type 0/14 but it doesn't want to work in a S2000.
The game takes a clear and keychip, but shows "Payback Percentage Too High" after leaving KeyChip menu.

By hotslot101


This is an all in one  tournament chip running at approx 900+ % in tourny mode, not sure on the game type. I have ST0058 listed as 3CBP Sizzling 7's.


cheers


Ozzy 

By idesign -


I believe it's tournament chip for the S+ so it won't work in a S2000 machine.

By StatFreak


ST0060 Stats:
Now that I've had my ST0060 for a while, I've run all of the numbers.
Since it's not in the Bible, thought I'd post it here for anyone who might be interested.

(non-tournament mode was easy - step through virtual stops on test page 5. For tournament mode, I had to write down the virtual stop #'s of every spin using the JP key (every 10 spins) until I had filled-in every one of the 90 positions on each reel )


Prog#'s    Max%       Hit Freq    SS Equivalent    Paytable    Game Multiplier
ST0060     2550.24%    37.126        SS6274*             242B             3CM

*This is based on my own calculations, which exactly match that SS-ID:

In non-tournament mode:

Prog#'s       Max%         Hit Freq        Stops          Top Award     2nd Award                Win Freq
               (1st. Coin)                                             (Hits/Cycle)   (Hits/Cycle)                             
SS6274*    90.045%        15.432           90AAA         2K/5k/15k(1)   1500/3000/4500(11)       6.480


btw: Even with the 2550% payout and 240 "5x, 5x, 5x" hits, it's still a 1 in 3037.5 shot at hitting the top prize. With about 60 games played in a 5 minute tournament^ (avg), one will only hit the top prize every 51 rounds. There are 2096  “5x, 5x, 7” hits -- a 1 in 347.8 shot -- not too shabby. 

^ I set my win payouts to a rate of 150. That pays in increments of 15, which works best for this game.

By bronconut7


Karma to you for sharing!!!   

by StatFreak -


Got the chip from Ben (Fanninislots on eBay)

It's been a lot of fun. Been playing it for a while with friends and STILL haven't hit the top prize in tournament mode   

I'll just have to keep playing 'till it hits. Of course, it won't qualify for a "Best hit at home" shot -- not in tournament mode -- but I'll still be thrilled to see it happen.. 

By 72MachI


For the list,  I believe the SP1272 is a 16Mhz chip.   I have one with what looks like factory label on it which specifies 16Mhz on it and it's running fine in a 16Mhz board.

By brian -


I think that ST0058 has a payout of 91.97% according memory location 175C - 175D.  Could someone update the first post for this thread?

By knagl -


If we're updating the first post, the SP1312 could be added.

Type 3 (Volcano) or Type 6 (Tidal Wave).  Denomination: $0.01, $0.05, $0.10, $0.25, $0.50, $1, $2, $5, $10, $20, $25, $50, $100.  Uses SET058 or SET076.

By Cactusjack -


Both have been added - Thanks!

Any idea on what MHz 1312 is (10 or 16?)

CJ

By StatFreak -


This is a copy of the list that I have been updating for personal use. One thing I did was to indicated new additions or changes with bolded notation. I may have missed one or two changes, but hopfully the bolding will make it easier to integrate my additions to everyone else's copies without wading through the rest.

Maybe it's time to pool our copies and get a new updated master list together?

By donb -


Thanks SF 

K+ to you

By Cactusjack -


StatFreak, Hope you don't mind, but I copy and pasted your doc over the original post to include all your updates.  But I noticed you missed the 91.97% for ST058 so I added it.

Thanks for all the hard work.  Its nice to have one place to go to for all the info.

CJ

By StatFreak -


I'll add the ST0058 payout % to my copy. If anyone has items not in the list, post them and I'll add them, then update the file online.

By knagl -


Quote from: Cactusjack on March 20, 2008, 01:47:26 PM
It is my belief that the 1312 is 10mhz, but I guess I don't know for sure -- I don't see any indication either way in the PSR.

Also, it's worth mentioning that the 1137 is tokenizable -- I just put it in a machine and it works like a charm.

By StatFreak -


Is 1137 tokenizable AND montana credits? Let me know and I'll correct my list.


I don't seem to have the PSR for SP1312..

By rickhunter -


poof!!! goes the e-mail.... 

From knagl -


Quote from: StatFreak on March 20, 2008, 06:26:31 PM

Yes, or at least pseudo Montana credits.  Here are the credit options for the 1137:


Quote

If Semi-Euro is the same as Montana, it would actually be option 6, not 5.

By StatFreak -


Has anyone figured out what all those options do?

Holy Moley Batman!

Can I have a Venti half-caf-semi-Euro-token-noncredit lottery-style with a Nevada twist?   

"Did you want semi-Euro credit I or II with that Venti?"   

My head is spinning. 

By Ozzy III


Standard Euro Credit
Coins to game first then extra coins to credit

Euro Non Credit
Seems to be same as above

Nevada Style Credit
Max coin only and wins paid from hopper

Loto Style Credit
All coins to credit

Semi Euro Credit
Max coin only, wins to credit

Token Credit
Think it's an option when machine is tokenized, did not check as option does not show in setup {7}

Semi Euro II
Max coin then extra to credit


cheers


Ozzy

By StatFreak -


Thanks Ozzy. K+. It looks like some of them are identical, like Standard Euro and Semi-Euro II?  Maybe there were player tracking differences?

By knagl -


Quote from: Ozzy III on March 21, 2008, 10:28:38 AM

I can verify this one.  I just set up a tokenized machine -- you have to use the SET086 first to set the token value (2 to 99 credits per coin), then you later use that option to actually enable tokenization.  I used the SET086 to set it for 25 credits per coin (it was a quarter machine, but now you get 25 credits per quarter, making it a penny machine).  Then I changed the option to enable tokenization, and it worked!   

By elvisc -


hi all,

can anyone have PSR for SP1213

thanks,
Elvis

By Railroad94 -


Quote from: knagl on March 22, 2008, 04:28:05 PM



With it being tokenized, 25 credits per quarter. Does it know this information when cashing out from hopper?  or is this just for the input of credits

By Jay -


Thats sort of what tokenizatin is all about. You might setup your machine to use $5.00 tokens but cash out in dollars or quarters.

By knagl -


Quote from: Railroad94 on March 23, 2008, 05:30:05 PM

It's for both.  If I have 76 credits and press the cash out button, it will spit out three quarters and then one credit will remain on the machine.  That credit cannot be cashed out -- either it needs to be played, or could (I suppose) be hand-paid by an attendant.



Quote from: Jay on March 23, 2008, 07:30:28 PM
That's news to me in regards to an S+.  There was no option to do that, and I'm not sure how that would work as coins inserted typically go to the hopper.  Even at the casino, the tokenized nickel games there use dollar coins, and only pay out in dollar coins (with the same remainder credit issue as I posted in the paragraph above).

By donb -


Quote from: knagl on March 23, 2008, 10:20:53 PM

If you hit cash out a second time what happens?  If it cannot cash out wouldn't go to a hand pay?

By knagl -


Quote from: donb on March 23, 2008, 10:34:28 PM

Oddly enough, it does nothing.  In fact, when it cashes out all of the tokens it can (in my case, quarters) and there's a fractional token amount remaining, the light on the cash/credit (or "cash out") button turns off, and you can press the button until you're blue in the face, but it won't do anything unless you have more than (in my case) 25 credits on the machine.  I would think that there would be a shortcut to removing the credits in the event of a hand pay of a fractional token value, but I haven't seen it documented anywhere.

By Jay -


Kevin,

I was mistaken - You are correct - what goes in must come out - at least on the S+.

By Railroad94 -


With A video or at least WMS,you can set it up for all fractional money will give you a spin of the wheel on the screen and if you loose,it's gone or if you win you receive 1 whole credit. A good way to avoid small hand pays

By Ohio Gaming -


Quote from: knagl on March 23, 2008, 11:00:31 PM

By any chance can you set your hopper limit to 0 and be force into a hand pay?

By knagl -


I suppose, but then I wouldn't be able to cash out any coins, even if I had more than 25 credits, right?  To be clear, the problem of not being able to clear out the remaining fractional token value isn't a big deal at all for me -- I'm just a home user playing the machine for fun.  I can see it being more of a headache if it was used in a casino.

By bazroot -


I don't see an SP1309 on the list. Did I miss seeing it ?

I was thinking about putting a 16 meg board in my Sierra Silver with an SP 1309 Eprom to liven it up a bit. It seems to nudge too slowly when compared to the nudge machines I play at our local casino.  Will this help ?

I realize that the S+ ( 10 meg board with an SP 1271 Eprom) machine that I have is not as smart as today's machines, but I wish it were a bit snappier in the nudge mode.

By the way, having The Harrah's Chester (Pa.) Casino located a quarter (1/4) of a mile from my employer makes for some very, very,very expensive lunch breaks . I'm in the process of setting up a Direct Paycheck Deposit to Harrah's Casino, so I don't have to stand there pushing the Max Bet button over and over till my money is gone....

Thanks guys.....Tom

By Forrhouse -


Ok I have a dumb question, but I guess when its relates to something that you have never worked with then it's not so dumb after all.

What SP chips go with what tournament Eproms?

What is the difference between and Sp chip and an SP0 chip?

I'm so confused?

By Jay -


Eric,

No such thing as a dumb question, you can educate ignornace. Stupid is genetric and usually corrected by Darwin.

To quote CJ "Knowledge has no value unless shared" -   

ST chips work with tournament games as replacement for SS chips.
Here is the link to the tournament section of the online game bible.
        http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%20Tourney/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Tournament.htm
Rick has included a SS x-reference - Ricks Awsome 

You continue to use the same SP (game chip).

Not sure of the SP0 terminology.... but I speculate SP0731 ? vs SP 731.

By rickhunter -


To add to Jay's post.  ST chips actually have two paytables in them, the tournament paytable and a "Normal" mode paytable.  When not in tournament mode, the ST behaves as a regular SS chip as listed in the tournament page in the bible here.  To use an ST chip, you will need a game prom that supports both types of reel data in the chip, though I'm pretty sure that all tourney reels are type 0,14 only, though most game proms support the other "popular" types as well.  As far as SP0, I have no idea other than speculate with Jay's idea.

By Forrhouse -


Thanks Rick and Jay. So, if I understand correctly, all I have to look for is a Type 0, 14 Sp chip to match to match up to each ST chip?
As for the SP0 question, I have noticed some labbeled SP0730 vs. SP730.  I was wondering if there was a difference other than their numbering convention?
Thanks,
Eric

By Cactusjack -


I may be wrong here, but I am pretty sure you need an SP Chip which supports Tournament mode (ie SP1148, SP1153, SP1311).  A regular SP will not recognize the dual Paytables in the ST reel chips.  So you can't expect to use just any Type 0,1 SP to run an ST chip.

CJ

By Forrhouse -


Thanks for the info.  Is there a listt of all of the SP chips that Support tournament mode?
Which SP chips would go with the following?
St0001, St0004,  St0005, St0008,  St0012,  St0014, St0019, St0020, St0023,
St0025, St0028, St0032, St0036, St0042 and St0058
Thanks,
Eric

By Jay -


Eric there should be no difference in a bin file named SP0731 vs SP731

The value in using the 0 is so if you had a directory full of files and were sorting by name....

SP731 would show up AFTER SP1271 which we intuitively know is wrong but the computer sorting by name sees that the 7 is larger than the 1 and sorts accordingly.

However SP0731 would show up correctly due to the leading 0.  The 0' however adds no further value.

By Forrhouse -


Thanks Jay. That's what I thought, but I figured I'd better not assume.

So, would it be correct that one can use any of these SP's listed below with any of the tournament chip numbers?

SP557 Type 0,14 (Cruise Ship Eprom?)

SP830 Type 0, 14 (14 is Tournament)

SP922 Type 0,1,4,5,14 (14 is Tournament) ID 2.5, $0.01/0.05

SP1003 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz, ID 2.4, SET019 0.01/0.02

SP1008 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz, ID023, SET016 0.01/0.02 Tokenized

SP1009 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz, ID 2.4, SET011 0.01/0.02 Tokenized

SP1013 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 10MHz, ID023, SET019, 0.01/0.02

SP1014 Type 0,1,4,5,12,14 10MHz, ID023, SET011, 0.01/0.02 Tokenized

SP1137 Type 0,1,4,5,12,,14" (set chip 86) (Montana, or “Semi Euro credit setting 5”)

SP1148 Type 14 Tournament

SP1174 Type 0,1,4,5,12,14 10Mhz ID023 SET087 $0.01,0.02 Supports 9 Paylines Tokenized

SP1253 Type 0/1/4/5/14 (14 – Tournament)

Thanks, Eric

By Jay -


1253 would be my pick.

By StatFreak -


There's one you didn't list:

SP 1311   Type 0,/1/4/5/14  10MHz

I'd take that over the SP1253 any day of the week. I have both. The SP1253 applies credits very slowly and unevenly, even when compared to the older chips like SP731. The SP1311 is nice and fast like the SP1271. The SP1253 was so annoying that I thought something was wrong with it at first, and after I found out that this behavior was normal I went out looking for a replacement.

By Forrhouse -


Thanks for the info on the SP1311. Thats great info K+ to you.
I appreciate it.
Eric

By stayouttadabunker -


That info in that SP1311 was good to know.......thanks STAT!

BY cfh -


Are you guys saying that SP1311 should be used in place of SP731 on older games like Double Diamond and Red White and Blue?

By rickhunter -


SP1311 is the recommended chip for Type 14 games (tournament games).  I think it's pretty much concensus that 1271 is the way to go, unless you want to pick a different tunes for type 4 or 5 games that have the spin 'til you win feature, then you go with 731

Hello I´m new, can anyone tell me if I can replace a SP1060 with a SP1312?
Does anyone have the PSR for SP1312?

Please refrain from asking for binary files in these discussion forums.  This kind of activity is strictly against the terms of use of this site.  We do not want any kind of legal issues with the slot manufacurers.

To answer your question, yes SP1060 and SP1312 are both type 3,6 10Mhz slot programs.

OK, thanks for your answer... but the PSR for the SP1312? Does anyone have it?


In order to colaborate  updating the first post:

the SP1049 could be added.

Type 0 (no special features), Type 1 (Slam Dunk, Balloon Bars, etc.), Type 4 (Spin ’Til You Win), Type 5 (4th of July), Type 12 (Fever), and Type 0/14 (All-in-One Tournament). 

Denomination can be set at 0.01; 0.02; 0.05; 0.10; 0.20; 0.25; 0.50; 1; 2; 2.50; 5; 10; 20; 25; 50; 100; 200; 250; 500; 1,000; 2,000; 5,000; or zero (none).

Uses SET019

Does anyone have the PSR for SP1312?
Also, the PSR for SP1275?

Thanks

I noticed that the SP1137 ("Montana Credits/Euro credits") chip will only work with a 10MHz board.
I cannot get it to work with a 16MHz board.
I don't know how to add that information with the SS/SP lists.

Its my understanding that the reel chips can be used in any board and its the Game Chips that are the issue.

I beleive the differentiating factor is that the newer chips have sound control in them where as the older chips do not. I am sure there are other reasons as well but that is the major one that sticks out in my mind.

Do we have game chips listed in the bible ?

I'm sorry,
I meant to add this information to the SP list...if there is one

ADD>> there MUST be an SP list because I downloaded one from here last year...
On it, stated various SET's  that were compatiable and which MHz board certain game proms were known good for....

Theres lists around.... just not in the bible.

The PSR usually tells you what SET chips work.

I have found that most set chips work with any of the game chips. Set015 was my good standby, Set026 does 1c denominations.
You need Set90 (pr later) to setup progressives with 1271 or later but if you are not doing progressives the previous mentions worked just fine.
Set90 however is not backwards compatabile and won't work with 731....

It sounds like this would be a good addition. If you were to concoct a list in the form of a web page. We can then get it posted as an addition to the game bible.

I agree with you about the PSR's telling one which Set chips work with which SP's...
however, not all and only very few PSR's will say which MHz board the SP's work on.
which, in turn, leads one to wonder> because the MHz is not stated - then the SP must be compatiable with both MHz boards?

That's what I will try to compile...

ADD>> the address that's printed on my reference doesnt work>>
http://newlifegames.net/techforum/index.php/topic,501.0.html (http://newlifegames.net/techforum/index.php/topic,501.0.html)

I only have a poor scanned copy...the original isnt on my hard drive.
The better list was on the address I posted above but it's lost...
I pasted it in google search and the 3rd link brings me to "Voy" forums...
SP Chip #          Type        Coins            MPU           Denom Chip   
  731              0/1/4/5       2/3/5CM         10MHz         
  804              0/1/4/5       2/3/5CM         10MHz         
  831              0/1/4/5       3Line         10MHz         
  872            0/1/4/5       2/3/5CM     10MHz      SET26   
  1137     0/1/4/5       2/3/5CM     10MHz      montana   
  1160     0/1/4/5       2/3/5CM           10MHz         
  1271     0/1/4/5/19  2/3/5CM           10MHz         

 :88-

There it is! I KNEW somebody had it somewhere! Thanks Brianzz :131-
I have that list, but I printed it and never saved it, but now I have it back on the good ole' hard drive again!
U da man!

That's a very important document.  Thank you so much for posting it.   There is something comforting knowing that the file is sitting on your drive - can't explain it
I know how SB feels.

Stayouttadabunker,

Here is a PDF of your scan.......

Thank you very much xkey...I use so much reference material that I lose it... :96-

I have much of it all in binders now...sorta like a mini library of the S+.

Hate what to see what happens should I ever get an S2000...lol

I know what you mean, I am trying to organize everything now.  Hopefully, I am going to see April and Terry this week to pick up a couple of S2000's.

Pick some up for me.. and drop them off, unload them, set them up... all while I watch comfortably from the couch

     Jay stated:                               
                                                       
Anyone care to explain what kind of sound control is available on an S+?

Volume (on the 16MHz), and some of the older ones had selectable music for the bonus rounds, IIRC.

According to this post from Ken at Ohio Gaming (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=2637.msg21009#msg21009), SP1289 supports Type 25 (Bonus Sizzling 7's with the add-on light bar in the top glass).

I don't think there's anything on the "Bonus Sizzling Seven's" in the "Bible" yet as well. :103-
Just the plain "Sizzling Sevens"... :149-

Magicslots,
If there's a blue knob on top of the MPU tray, that's your volume knob and it would mean that your MPU board is a 10MHz board.
The 16MHz MPU boards don't have the little "Magic" blue knob....

(I say "Magic" because some guy actually called it that stating on camera that it was the knob that slot techs use to change the percentages on a machine....lol)



(Edited to fix the quote.)

There is a volume knob on the board, so its a 10MHZ board, what are the advantages of a 16MHZ board?

With a couple of the games: Bulls Eye, 4th of July etc...
You have the option of about 7 different sets of reel music. These songs are not available in the type 0 or type 5 games (nudge).
These tunes are available with the 731 chip, but not its replacement the 1271.

The 1271 dumped the reel music in favor of more detailed accounting features, It also moved any of the progressive functions out of the menus and you need the set90 chip to program them. I personally would have stayed with the 731 but I came across a limitation with the progressive that required the new chip.

My setup is that each of my slots have a LINKED progressive as their top award and I have the IGT behind the payglass (standalone progressive) as the secondary reward on each slot.
This combo is not supported under the 731. You can have LINK:LINK, IGT:LINK, IGT:IGT but not LINK:IGT, I had to go the 1271 to get this.

The 731 with the set026 can do a nickle denomination but you need a 1271 to do the penny denomination.
Hopper limits and credit limits are the same thing and controlled by dip switches on a 731, they are separate and controlled through software on a 1271.
In fact the 1271 ignores dipswitches all together.

Neither of these chips work with the 16mhz boards. Subsequently no special reel music. The 16mhz boards have no dipswitches and no manual volume control. This is all controlled by the self test menus. The main benefit of the 16mhz board is that it counts credits way faster than the 10mhz board. The down side is that there is an annoying hum that gets induced from the power source. This might not be an issue in a casino but its right annoying at home. I have one of these boards and for the most part it sits in a drawer.

Excellent answer Jay :3-

I often wondered which chip does what and the differences as I am constantly playing with this stuff.
There's an amazing amount of different options to choose from. :5-
I didn't know about the LINK:IGT needing the SP1271....you learn something new everyday. :89-
no wonder it didn't work on my older chips.... :25-

Some of the tokenized SP chips also support attract music which play a different tune every xx seconds with 0 credits on the machine. The music played are the repin music from spin till you win, 4th of july, etc.

Does anyone have the PSR for SP1312?
I mean the SP1312 PSR  file  in pdf o .doc?

Wow! You've been looking for that for a long time. The good news is that I have come across a copy since you last asked.

Enjoy.

Thanks........
Thanks.....
Thanks....

Hi all i have a wild cherry with SS4133 in it and SP142 i want to change the tokenization on it but i don't know what set chip to use i have look through the list on this page and Sp142 doesn't appear anywhere on it can anyone help. Also does anyone know does the set chip you use go by the SP no. or the game type? Really what i want to know is how would we work out what set chip to use.
Thanks again
Richard

One way to make sure what SP and SS chip you have is to open the door and
hit the little white test button until a "4" shows up in the "coins played" window on your display.
There will be 2 sets of numbers alternating...
one is the SS chip number and the other is your SP chip number.
I've a feeling your SP chip may be incorrectly marked on the chip itself?

By the way: your SS 4133 chip fits Super Joker, Wild Cherry, Sevens Seas, and Cartoon Wild Cherry as well.
It's an 87%  3coin multiplier reel chip.

Am i right in thinking that when you have a 4 showing that is where you check the paytable as well.
 
The SP chip still has the original IGT label on it or at least i think it's original. I have sorted the problem anyway now i have change the SP to a 1003 took some doing though the 142 was on a 256k i didn't know that you couldn't change the chip size without moving the jumper just above it but it's all up and running now.

I would still like to know how to choose what set chip to use.

It all depends on which reel chip (SS) you're using...take a look at this>>

http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/gametypes.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/gametypes.htm)

The SP chips as well are "Type" specific...most common ones is a Type "0".
Haywires are Type "2" SP chips...and so on...you'll see as you read more about game types... :89-

thanks i'll have look

SP1003 uses set chip 19.

Hey guys, not finished but try my S+ game search engine!
Hope you like it took quite some time to build...
http://www.roulettetools.com/game-catalog/ (http://www.roulettetools.com/game-catalog/)

Pretty spiffy

Very nice, I like it.  K+
Can you make it so it doesn't max out at 100 hits, or have the option to do more?

Keep up the good work!

Thanks,
Wayne

VERY cool jstraa.  :133- :133-  K+ :3- :3-

I would suggest adding the options of  >   >=   =   <=   < to your "Return Percentage" search, and I second the idea of allowing more than 100 items - perhaps by paging them.

I can see that you put a lot of time into getting all of that data set up. :131- :131- :131-

jstraa!!!!  Awessome!!!!! :131- :3- :3- :3- :3- :3- :3- :3- :3- :3- :3- :3-

Do you have the PSR for SP611 and SP882?
I appreciate any answer

I found something on the internet for ya!
Check your email ANDRIU  !

Thank you for the document!!

OUTSTANDING jstraa ! :3- :131-

TJ,

jstraa put up that great search engine like,  2 months ago.... :96-



You're welcome Andriu...in the future...lol...you only need to hit the "quote" button once.... :96-

Thanks for this information. Very helpful. Out o curiousity do you know were I can find the s plus listing for the reel game chips. I have quite a few reel eprom chips that I can't identify. Thanks

You can look in our S+ online game bible. Click on Rick's FAQ to find it. While we do not provide a direct search tool, you can search for specific chip numbers using Yahoo or another major search engine. (Google hasn't been scanning our online bible for some reason.)

For example, search for:  SS3631 site:http://newlifegames.net/igtbible

Now that this thread has been reactivated, jstraa, I noticed that your database is down. I hadn't looked at it for quite a while, but there seem to be lots of SQL connection errors and no data being returned. :103-

Thank you. I appreciate the insight.

Good day, On the Sp: you could explain the differences between SAS communication, (not mention of credit transfer), SAS Enhanced Cashless Transaction (ECT) and SAS Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT)? I only need to obtain coin in (1), coin out (2) and jackpot (6) in the S-plus by means of communication SAS. What class of SP I can use? (SS is type 0)
I Can use the SET19 to qualify communication SAS? As they are the steps to qualify it?
I am thankful for any answer :131- :131-

Not quite sure what you are asking, but I think all levels of SAS allow for meter reading if that is all you want to do.  As for what SP chips support SAS, I think they all do. At least everything above SP611 does (lowest PSR I have).

Thanks for your answer!!
Can I use the SET19 to qualify communication SAS? As they are the steps to qualify it?

Generally basic SAS is set up in self test without a SET chip. It's the first setting:

Accounting System
Communication Type   Determines the communication type on channel A (DCS port).  Options are none {0}, Bally’s serial SDS (XMISER) {1}, or IGT SAS (Standard and EFT) {2}.

Set the above to 2. Once you change that, the next press of the self test button will get you to this:

SAS Communication
Address <0>   This page is displayed only if the communication type is SAS.  When using the SAS protocol, a machine address is required to distinguish one machine from another.  The valid address range is {001} to {127}.
NOTE:  SAS is not enabled if the address is zero.

Assign it the address you want. That is all you need for basic SAS. Now EFT usually needs a SET chip, but the SET chip number will vary depending on the SP. For example, for a SP1048 you need a SET058 for EFT functions.

Set Chip   IGT utility program SET058 is required to enable/disable the bill acceptor, enable/disable the coupon capability or the SAS Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT) option, modify the denomination, and modify the standalone progressive option.  SET076 can be used to set all options except the coupon capability and the SAS EFT options.

thank you. very good its answer :244- :131-