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Title: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 15, 2010, 04:02:19 PM
I have a blazing 7s game that is a tournament machine and can't find any info on how to make it play. I put the new batt in and followed the directions on the saferam clear everything seems fine but I can't figure out how to make it play.. Please help thanks in advance..


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Buzz on March 15, 2010, 05:05:11 PM
Do you have all the coin handling parts installed in machine ?  :103-


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 15, 2010, 05:31:26 PM
Yes the machine is complete
thanks


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 15, 2010, 05:47:05 PM
With the door fully closed and latched, what numbers are in your "Win Paid" & "Credit" displays?
Are any of the buttons on deck lit up?
How about the candle?


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Super Joker on March 15, 2010, 05:51:03 PM
Do you need to turn the key on the "jackpot reset" to initialize the preset credits/time for tournament, like some of the IGT tournament machines?


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 15, 2010, 05:59:03 PM
It has 5.0. in the winpd window.  when I turn the reset key it puts 0000 in both the winpd and the credit windows and alternates to a 2 digit that counts up from 1 to 14 does that until you press the change button then just goes back to 5.0. . the candle has a steady blue lite


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 15, 2010, 06:42:24 PM
ah...now we're getting somewhere!!!

"5.0" means the "slot door is open"... :89-
Check the wires on the cherry switch...
somethings broken.
You know how to use a multimeter to check for
continuity on the cherry switch to see if it works?

The first picture is what your error code should look like.

The second picture is the door cherry switch.
Click on any photo to enlarge it!!!>>>


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 15, 2010, 06:46:56 PM
Yea I changed out the switch but didn't think to check the new one there are 4 wires so not sure what I'm looking for to check them


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 15, 2010, 06:56:33 PM
You didn't hook it up right....error 50 means the door is open.
The machine will not work unless you put the wires back on correctly.
Why did you change the switch in the first place?
What else did you do?
The more you tell us - the more we will tell you!

Use the top 3 connectors on the cherry switch.
Top wire=Black & Blue
Middle wire=Yellow & Orange
Bottom wire=Orange & Black


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 15, 2010, 07:20:45 PM
I replaced the switch becuase I thought that might be code 50 the switch had dry duct tape on it and was sticking I have two machines one is a parts machine, I was very carful to put the wires back in the same terminals they came off. This is a slant top will the upper and lower door give the same code if open? other than this I replace the batt on mpu. and 2 lite bulbs in the buttons..  ps thanks so much for your help


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 15, 2010, 07:27:19 PM
Mine has 4 wires on each switch


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 15, 2010, 08:28:47 PM
Mine has 4 wires on each switch

yeah, but the black & blue wires are doubled up? No?
Take a picture and show what you're talking about.
It will help us determine what's going on.

Check any other door switches if there's any.
Code 50 is door open - there's has to be a broken wire
some where on those cherry switch lines.
You have no other choice but to check them all if you
want to get your machine up and running!

Maye the switches are no good?
Can you verify this?
Put the two leads of your multimeter on the switch tabs (checking for continuity),
press the button plunger and see if the meter moves.
If the needle moves, then your switches are okay.
That's when you have to trace the switch wires and see if any of them
are broken at the connectors or pinched anywhere along the lines.
Just follow the colors...

Finally, if you CERTAIN your switches and wires are okay, swap the
MPU board and the backplane board with a known good board.


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 15, 2010, 09:25:12 PM
Ok the wire orange wire going to the door switch was cut at one of the wire ties I fixed it now the blue light is off the insert coin lite is flashing credits 00 and the winpd is blank am I on the right track? how do I put credits on it? your a life saver   :131- the ol lady has been pissed I bought a piece of crap  :30- but now she getting excited that's a good thing.lol


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 15, 2010, 11:12:15 PM
You're on the right track.
Looks like the door is seeing that it's closed.
The error code "50" is gone away!
Did you try to drop some coins in the slot yet?
Also, and very important...is there any number showing
in the "Coin In" display on the left side of the display board?


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 16, 2010, 01:32:29 AM
The coin in says "0" and no the coins didn't do anything either its set up for tournament play


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 16, 2010, 11:50:46 AM
Open the door, turn on the machine.
Press the test button until you see "11 D" in the Message display.
Now, print a copy of these two PFD excerpts I've attached below and
bring them to your machine and set option "27" to a credit game.
Which will be (0001) on your display.

Now, go to option [01] and set the Tournament Minutes for "OFF".
This will show (0000) on your display.
Press the max bet button a few times and your machine will be ready to accept coins.



Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 16, 2010, 11:51:29 AM
This is the bottom part of the PDF page>>>


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 16, 2010, 07:35:31 PM
Awsome thank you again, got that done, my BV is not working the red light inside is on but the green "When lit " is not lit up I've been going thru other post but can't seem to find anything about the one I have, I don't have any silver dollars so I can't test the coin drop yet. The BV is a JCM 145


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 17, 2010, 01:36:11 AM
The 145 is discontinued and obsolete...it only takes old bills with the small heads.
You could get newer one.
It will be called the DBV-200 and they have upgraded up the before the new fives came out.
It will only take the old fives.

Take the big coin out of you coin comparitor and install a quarter in it's place.
Once you do that , drop a quarter in the slot and see if it accepts it.

As far as your old stinky DBV - try a dollar bill...and old one if you have one.
It's about all there is in circulation that'll work on your machine.

If the green light is not on, check the DBV connections.
Probably a broken wire right where it goes into the connectors.


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 17, 2010, 04:39:11 AM
Ok I sure hope your not getting tierd of me,, I checked the connections on the BV but all seems good I think its just DOA.. but I tried the quarter trick and well something different when you drop the coin you hear the clank noise thru the speaker but insted of a credit it puts the #3 in the coin in display and the spin light comes on, two more coins will make the sound but the next will drop in the coin return.  :103-


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Buzz on March 17, 2010, 04:58:54 AM
First off if its a 3 coin machine the 4th coin should go to the tray. Unless I have missed something have you ever told us the machine plays are not? Now I'm not 100 % sure but on the front of the MPU tray left side there is a long black plug with one wire going to it I'm pretty sure this has to be unplugged to take it out of tournament mode. Do you have a LED display on top of machine that tells you total won in tournament play?  A couple of pictures would help.


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 17, 2010, 05:35:29 AM
I'm very sorry no it does not play. Yea it does have the display on top, I'll get some pics for you and yes it does have that plug do I need to do the ram clear when I unplug that plug. you guys are great on this site thanks for your help I'll make donation friday..


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Buzz on March 17, 2010, 05:40:21 AM
No clear needed the wire goes to the top diplay with it disconnected the machine should play. At least I think it should you said you get a spin light when you drop in the first coin.


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 17, 2010, 05:46:16 AM
Yes but it doesn't do anything when you push it,, I tried it with the plug out still nothing. here's pics of it..


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Buzz on March 17, 2010, 05:54:20 AM
Need to see the insides of machine.  Right below the coin comraritor you will see the optic board ( might have a metal sheild blocking your seeing it ) on the optic bopard there is a very small button if the press it the machine will think a coin has been dropped in, It's ok to press this button and press spin with the door open. Hope the reels will spin.   You can pull up and the comparitor , and optic will come out to give you a better view


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Foster on March 17, 2010, 05:56:55 AM
Have you tried doing a player switch test, I would think it would have one.
Only a suggestion.


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Buzz on March 17, 2010, 06:00:41 AM
Foster I just got in on this one I think Bunker went to bed.  Now whats a player switch test? 


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Foster on March 17, 2010, 06:07:56 AM
Input test related to the player buttons/switches to test if they are all working properly.
Like the IGT S+ or S2000 has to test the player switches.
I am not sure if the 5500 has it or not.


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Buzz on March 17, 2010, 06:21:39 AM
Foster I have a bunch of 5500 and I just don't remember how to do the test. CRS It's to late to start reading tonight. The one part here I don't understand is he drops one coin in and it shows 3 credits. I changed a couple of machines from tournament to coin only and was no big deal. A couple of wires from the tournament reset switch to mother board, and the wire from the tray to the display.


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 17, 2010, 06:31:49 AM
since I uplugged the one wire plug off the front of the mpu it now show 1,2,& then 3 coins as they drop in but still won't play when I hit the spin or any other button. the buttons are good I'm pretty sure i used them to set the prefferences. 


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Buzz on March 17, 2010, 06:42:45 AM
I don't think this will help but unplug the display that's on top of the machine, and you should have two reset switches, one jackpot and the other one is tournament reset switch. pull one wire off each one of them, we can figure out later which one is jackpot and hook it back up.


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 17, 2010, 01:16:32 PM
I almost sounds like his spin button switch is okay, but it doesn't "play" the bet.
He used the spin button to set options.

We need to see if you can get the reels to spin by using the "Service Credit" button
on the coin in optics board like Buzz suggested earlier.

With the door open, press the little button on the small board where the
coins fall through under the coin comparitor.
Each push of that "Service Credit" button will give you 1 credit.
The most you can put on is 3 credits because you have a 3 credit game.
After you put the 3 credits on the "Service Button"- hit the Spin" button on the deck.
The reels SHOULD spin like a normal game!

If the reels spin,  then your machine is STILL somehow still stuck in tournament mode.
You will have to go back into the settings and using the sheets I uploaded earlier - make sure
anything tournament related is turned to the off positions.


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 17, 2010, 06:51:54 PM
 :131- You guys are GODS Thank you so much I GOT IT... on the tournament machine like mine all of the above was right on target the last hang up was on the spin button switch the 2 wires that go to micro switch they added a third brown wire that wire goes to an added harness that goes to something that had been removed from my machine before I got it when I uplugged the new wire and plugged the double original wire back on the machine works great.. except that POS BV lol but I can live with dumping quarters in it. Thanks so much guys your fantastic, Hope I can help another frazzeled soul like myself with this someday you rock... I'll make a donation to the site very soon....


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 17, 2010, 10:26:35 PM
Awesome!...FYI that double wire you hooked up?
That was a continuous ground for the switches.
Runs/links the ground wire from switch to switch.
If you look carefully, there's another double wire going from bulb to bulb!


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 17, 2010, 10:49:02 PM
Ok that makes sence,, If I could pick your brain again the game is working good but is there a way to change the payback odds its winning way to much it hit 5 jackpots in less than 20 mins. I set the max credits to 9999 and I've had to reset it 3 times in less than an hour. if this was at a casino I'd be rich lol..


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 17, 2010, 10:59:36 PM
And the security goons would be beating the crap outta ya in the basement somewhere...lol
Just kiddin'
Hey! Is it still in tourney mode?
Or did ya turn off all the options that had anything to do with tournament?
That's too many jackpots really...that's why I'm suspecting that's it may be still be configured as a tournament chip.

I would like you to go into the "Submit a New File" section of NLG and download yourself a copy of the Bally 5500 Manual.
Print it out (make sure you have full inks in your printer) and throw the whole thing in a binder and start reading it from page 1 to the end.
It's almost long as "War and Peace" but it will a Chock Full O' Nuts of info for your machine!

Here's a link to that section...the manual is near the bottom.

http://www.newlifegames.net/uploads/up/upload.php (http://www.newlifegames.net/uploads/up/upload.php)


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 17, 2010, 11:20:47 PM
Well I already did that but the tournament section is Module 12 but its not there I've been reading but still haven't found anything new about it.. And yep I'd have a buch a questions to answer to elite casino staff for sure lol..


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Buzz on March 18, 2010, 02:37:29 AM
Open the door and press the test ( left ) button on the MPU tray one time, with the door still open look at the credit display on the door first set of numbers are the game number second and third set of numbers are the percentages. Let us know what they are. Bally doesn't use a tournament chip like IGT that I know of.  ( been wrong before )


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: autowiz1968 on March 18, 2010, 09:23:47 PM
Well I tried Buzz to get get those numbers for you but when I turned the off and turned it back on with the "test" button pressed it came back up with code 2.3. I looked in the trouble code chart it says coin not senced it was working great exept winning to much I didn't do anything but turn it on with the test button held down. it has a coin in the comparitor  :103- what the heck did I do?


Title: Re: Any know how to convert a s5500 tournament game back to a coin game?
Post by: Buzz on March 18, 2010, 09:55:33 PM
Send me a PM with your phone number.