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Okay,
Here we go again...but this time I'm tinkering on an S2000...my personal machine!
I want to put this unit into my machine...seems like I have most of it but not all of it.
What's missing and where do all these plugs go?  :99-
Click on the photo to enlarge it!!>>>

the 2 you have marked netplex, they daisy chain at the motherboard look in the middle about 3-4 inches down, they control the dazzle light board that go with the 4th reel (bonus reel)

Thanks for the info Blue!
Would you have a dazzling display and a small bonus reel?
I see a jumper on the connector behind the 3rd reel.
Looks like an option for maybe a 4th large reel?

No, that jumper is bypassing the #4 reel as that harness is a 5 reel harness, 123 and 5 are used

Interesting...I can see the little green pieces  :56- :148- of paper escaping my wallet now... :208-

. :148-.   :79-

Dream on Stroke! I don't have any money...   :97-  
I'll "frankenstein" something that'll work!!! :96-
You never put prices on anything anyways... :200- :72-

Here is a list of components I used to set up a 4 reel game:


Items for 3-Reel + Bonus Game set-up
Door I/O PN75427801 Rev A
Cabinet I/O PN75427601 Rev A
Reel controller board 76926800 (4 or 5-reel) for LEDs use a  76936300 for 3-5 reel.  
Cabinet I/O harness to controller board.
Power cable from motherboard to controller board.
4-Reel main harness from mother board to controller board/reels.
4 reel shelf w/ 3 backlit reels and dazzle reel assembly.
Award Glass
Belly Glass
Reel Glass
DSV Card
Game chips (GME 1 & 2 )
Base chip SB

Ron (r273)
                                                                                

Hey! Thanks for the info r273!
I will start shopping around for the parts! Awessome!!! :3- :244- :131-

That's actually a very, very good list for those that would
want to do this type of conversion later on!
It should be a sticky note!!!

Okay,
Got some glass, strips, SB100231 chip combines with SG363's,  
back lit reels w/ bonus reel,  and tray for the Big Times Pay.

I daisy-chained the dazzle board harnesses back to the motherboard
and plugged in the reel harness to the motherboard.

I have a 14-pin and a 10-pin connector coming off the right side of the reel harness behind the tray.
I see that the 14-pin fits into the reel driver board but where does the 10-pin connector go?  :72-

I don't see a place for it on my reel controller board.
I'm suspecting that I have the wrong board as there's no 10-pin header on it.
Do I have the wrong back lit controller board?  :99-
See pictures>>>

Here's a picture of the two connectors coming out of the back of the reels on the right side.
One's a 14-pin ( I think I know where that goes) while the other is a 10-pin connector (For a netplex??)

What does a Reel controller board # 76926800 look like?  :191- :129-
I'd appreciat some info on that and maybe where to get one?  :36-
Mine's a 76924100... :8-

This photo below is looking towards the right behind that bloody hot bulb!  :25- :72-
I've been trying (Although not too hard! lol) to put this kit together for over a year!  :97->>>

Mark I emailed you a couple of Pic.  If you need the number off the backlit board I can get it for you.

Okay Buzz...thanks!  :3-  :89-  :293-

Yours has two connector headers (10-pin and 12-pin)
running vertically next to each other...  :209-

Mine doesn't have that!  :8-


Does anybody have one for sale?  :284-

 
 

I wonder if this is it?
I noticed this on ebay a few minutes ago?
I think it's one of those fancy ones for LEDs though...?
The number on it is: 76936300
Same as the one r273 posted of the more expensive one.
I'd prefer the incandescent reel driver light board...>>>

This one looks like mine... :8-
wrong one I think.
This one has the 6-pin, 14-pin, 8-pin connectors on top.
It doesn't have the double 10 & 12 pin header connectors...>>>

Mark  For this pic  I pulled this board out of a Big Time Pay 3 reel + bonus reel   non LED backlit   part number7692680   The 4 white plugs are used ( black one not used)

Bunker I should have ask this question before, but we are working on just a regular Big Time Pay machine aren't we ?  I guess what I mean is, it doesn't have any waterfalls, are spit out bubble gum are anything like that does it ??  Gotta ask

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=11362.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=11362.0)

Bunker read this thread !

Yes Buzz! It's a 3 reeler with a Bonus reel Big Times Pay kit!
Thanks for snapping a pic of it!
uh...I didn't add any waterfalls...uh ...yet!   :72-

Excellent thread Coors...I couldn't find that!  :3-
I remembered you putting a kit similar to mine together somewhere!
I borrowed a couple of pictures you took of the correct reel driver controller board like Buzz's.  :285-

Now I gotta ask rjpohl and see if he has any left!!! :301- :138- :273-

Okay...I got a reel controller board from RAZ410!!!  Thanks man!!! :131-
Now, this behind-the-reels power supply made a "pop" noise a few days ago.
Not sure though...I have a non-directional hard-of-hearing physical  (mostly mental) disability... :5-
I do NOT  :60- like to hear a little sound like that... :72-
By the way, the "pop" sound occurred after I had incorrectly plugged in the 3reel+bonus reel
reel connector harness into a regular run-of-the-mill reel controller board.
The board "looks" okay but it's unverified whether it's works or not - I haven't tried to re-install the regular 3R kit back in.

Ever since then, my panel buttons (except for the MAX bet button) have been out of service.  :8-
Without them working, I'm not allowed into the menus. nada
Of course the game isn't working...still showing a ridiculously stubborn "Coin Jam" error...

I did this, did that...you know...fiddling around Clear chipping ( via a M27C4002 IVC00097 program) and Key chipping (utilizing a KEY00031).
Key chipping is especially nauseous  :86- because the first thing that pops up on the VFD is the chance
to get into the "keychip" menu and it's really frustrating when the panel buttons are inoperable.  :7-

I do have a set of I/O cards coming in soon but I'd really hate to install them and maybe blow them out again.
I will check out the door harness to see if there's a short somewhere... :209-

Is there a fuse perhaps inside this behind-the-reels PS?
Click on photo to make larger if needed !! >>>

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=1988.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=1988.0)

Mark I have never had to repair a power supply on a S 2000 but this thread is interresting. ( 2nd page )

I think I would take a look at the door IO board. Popping noise and blown cap. kind of go together.

Very cool thread  :133- Buzz! Thanks!
I remember reading this a while back before I got my hands on an S2000.
It didn't really stick in my brain because I didn't have one to look at the time.

According to the article, Randy Fromm suggested to do one main thing to get the behind-the-reels PS going again.
"Replace capacitor C50. 100 microfarad, 25 volts."
Here's his excellent video link>>>
http://slot-tech.com/interesting_stuff/igt/igt%20power%20supply%20repair%20video/igt%20power%20supply%20repair.wmv (http://slot-tech.com/interesting_stuff/igt/igt%20power%20supply%20repair%20video/igt%20power%20supply%20repair.wmv)
First,  I must test it according to idlywild's test instructions.

I will take it out this evening and put it under the microscope and see what I come up with... :79-
Again, thanks for the lead...!! :131-

Mark  If ONE button works I would think the power supply is doing it's job.  Now this is only a guess on my part but if you have the second set of buttons on a machine, you have two door IO boards. That tells me the IO's have something to do with the buttons. ( Foster is more than welcome to jump in here and straighten me out ) You have one out of five working.

These damn coin errors are becoming a real pain.  I had a S 2000 that took dollar tokens and worked good ( a fellow wanted it that way, but ended up buying a quarter machine )  New customer wanted it but as a quarter machine. ( people are hard to please )  Now all I did was replace the coin head, coin comparator, comparator bracket with coin optics and the hopper. All I could get after that was coin errors, I must have replaced every part except the coin head  three or four times, nothing would clear the error. After 4 or 5 hours I went to bed, next day after about five minutes it started working.  I wish I could tell you why but I don't know.  I have come to the conclusion that ALL slot machines are Female and you never know what they are going to do.

Just recently I pinched the 13V red wire that is part of the player buttons harness and caused it to short temporarily to ground and it created the coin in jam.
I seriously thought I killed the supply or the door i/o but both survived.

I would make sure the yellow wires for the buttons is not pinched or otherwise shorting to ground.
check to be sure you have 13V at the buttons red wire going to lamp and the black wire common terminal of switch.
if you do not have it there the I/O board(s) may not have 13V getting to them.

I found  :209- the source of the small "popping noise sound" I heard the other day...
Look at the friggin' hole on top of U67!!!! :8-
Click on photograph to enlarge the hole...>>>

Order one from mouser.
When part arrives get out the Rework Station and replace the IC.

I will...at least now I know why I had the persistent error.  :71-
I've moved the chips into a spare MPU and have gotten rid of the "Coin Jam" error!
Now I have a "Aux Reels Disconnected" error... :72-
The main 3 reels "lock up" when booted up but the aux. bonus 4th reel is "loose.

I have the two harnesses running from behind the bonus reel back to the motherboard back plane
at location J7 "Spare Senet" - while the pigtail coming out of the motherboard
is plugged into the other harness coming from that bonus reel. ( Daisy Chained )

Is this the way the bonus reel gets hooked up?  :103-

The back lit strip lights work on it ( I did a lamp test ) but the reel baskets are not in holding position
and the surrounding bonus multiplier lights are not lit at all.

Mark  I can't tell if it's J 7 are not, but from top to bottom it's pluged into the 3 rd one down on left side ( THATS YOUR LEFT )  The other one looks like a 12 pin plug, you need me to trace it out??   

Why aren't you in bed ??????????????

lol can't sleep....working on my game!
Anyways, yeah...Thanks Buzz...I'm in the 3rd one (J7) on the left from the top.
The other is plugged into the one I took out from there.
No go... :37- :8-
I'll check the harness out tomorrow.
Getting really late out here on the east coast.
I wanna go golfing tomorrow...lol
Nite! 

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Bunker, did you jump this connector???

No...I have 12Vdc coming out of the colored wire
while the black wire shows continuity to the machine's ground.
Jumping those two wires would be a recipe for a short?  :103-

What is that 2-pin connector for?

Mark  Looks like two Green wires, what part of the machine are then in and I will take a look at mine.

mine's not the same colors as Coors machine.
His were like aqua blue colors.
Mine is green and black w/red stripe.
It comes out of the harness that's coming out of the cabinet I/O card.

here's a better picture of that 2-pin connector coming out of the I/O harness from the back.
Click on photo to enlarge...>>>

Hook them togeather, I do get a reading of 13 v green wire and black does go to ground. 

They are for the i/o to recognize the 4th reel. At least that was what I was told when doing mine.  Hook them together

I don't think I would have ever figured that out...  :5-
amazing how one little friggin' jumper can keep me up until 3 in the morning last night... :72-
I think I'm just going to fiddle around with this all day...
Thanks guys!  :293- :284-
http://www.youtube.com/v/sqnVQ0IltlM?hl=en&fs=1 (http://www.youtube.com/v/sqnVQ0IltlM?hl=en&fs=1)

Next time read the whole post I put up, It told you step by step how to do it. You could have gone to bed earlier :30- :30- :30-

Glad you got it working  :89- :89-

Bunker   The SAD part of this is, you still ain't got nothing but a damn Big Time Pay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thought you said you were going to go stoot some golf's today. 

lol...nah it's raining out.
Hey, How do I get the bonus reel lights to come on?
I am in the [4.9.5 Bonus Device Test] , I hit the spin button but no lights.
I have two 12-pin connectors on a short harness going into the bonus light board.
Shouldn't there be something going into that black 8-pin header next to that chip to run the bonus lights?
The back lit strips work but not the little SMD LEDs on the board surrounding the bonus reel opening...

No , nothing plugs in there on mine either and the lights work

I probably have to take it apart and see if there's something burned out...
everything thing else works now.
I threw in a DSV000051 and it plays the bonus announcer's voice before the Bonus Spin.
Basically yelling at ya to hit the Spin button...lol
Cool little kit!

Mark, are you sure you have a 5 reel backlight controller?

He went thru that earlier in this post. The backlit works on the 4th reel just no the chaser lights. I wonder if it has something to do with the POP we hear earlier in the posts. You found a bad component but not what caused it.

I think he did post what caused the chip to POP

"By the way, the "pop" sound occurred after I had incorrectly plugged in the 3reel+bonus reel
reel connector harness into a regular run-of-the-mill reel controller board."

Sorry, Missed that one !

yeah...that's when it "popped".
I had a regular 3 reel controller and stuck it in there...bad move on my part...  :96-
Anyways, I'm going to take my bonus light circuit board and a known bad board in to work
and throw them under the microscope and see if they can be salvaged.
Could be just a bad LED SMD or trace.
I will also tone out the harness and see if there's any bad receptor pins as well.
I'm confident I'll find the problem when I scrutinize  :209- the boards for damage.
I'm just not as confident I'll be able to repair them though... :72-

So far, after setting it up for .25 cent play and playing about $200 on it...I haven't hit beans... :97-
Buzz may be right about this game....you can't win on it!!! :8-
The bonus sounds work well however - using the DSV00051 Simm card.
The Bonus reel REALLY needs those SMD LED's lit up though.... :89- :91-

I noticed something though (which may be related to the lighting problem )
even though they work in the "Tests" mode - the back lit lamps
on the reel strips do NOT work when hitting wins of any type...hmm.... :128-

What controls that on an S2000?  :129-

MPU to the motherboard to the cabinet I/O board to the backlight control board to individual reels

ok thanks cowboy...that makes sense.
But what doesn't make sense is: why would they
work in the "Light Tests" but during game play?  :103-

Rob  About the only thing you left out is the coin head !!!   :189- :189- :257-

 :97- I think the signal for backlights only goes through the coin head on Polish slots :97- Oh crap! I'm Polish :30-

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Oh that was a doozy cowboy!   :97-

I laugh at those guys that have 1 single post and asking for full manuals....
Gee...I oughta say "Sure ! So you can turn around and sell 'em on ebay?!?!?!?" :30- :30- :30- "    :72-

 :97- People will never cease to amaze us Bunker. It's a lot better than not having this site and these people to share information with though :89- It probably wouldn't be nice to have a sign on the homepage that said  "WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE, AT ANY TIME OR NO TIME, FOR ANY REASON OR NO REASON, ALL WHO ENTER BEWARE!" :97-

cowboygames & bunker  :172-

Uh oh...what did we do now?  :96-

                          YOU got the BUZZ bonus   :200- :200- :200-

Just a R rated Email     Coyboy also got a X rated one.   :200- :200-

Oh yes I did :89- :89- :89-

I wonder if I got anything in my email??? :103- :279- :208-

CaptainHorny :104-

lol  It's just Buzz being Buzz...sending us funny jokes that really cannot be aired here on the PG rated forum... :96-

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Oh that was a doozy cowboy!   :97-

I laugh at those guys that have 1 single post and asking for full manuals....
Gee...I oughta say "Sure ! So you can turn around and sell 'em on ebay?!?!?!?" :30- :30- :30- "    :72-
[/quote]              If i cant get a full manual ? How about a new full machine  :208- :208- :208- :208- :208- :208- :97- :97- :97- :97- :72- :72- :72-

lol 

"I'm sorry...I can't help you there PB"
I don't have any on my computer. I can forward you some nice photographs of machines though?"  :200-

Anyways, upon initial inspection under the microscope...lol...do you see any "missing parts" ? Jeesh!!!! :96-
The left board is the one I had in it to try to light up the bonus reel lights.
The right board is a spare but doesn't light up either.
The bottom photo is a close up of the IC components I may need to swap to try and make one working board... :8-
What are those IC components called? Capacitors?
My guess is hat the black painted side of these things would be the [Gnd] solder points.
I have to look for some schematics on this board to see if I can correctly power it up to see if all the SMD LED's are okay.
Click on photographs to make larger if needed! >>>

That looks like a good place to start !!!

   It must have been built on a Friday of a Chinese Holiday    ah   so yo screwed    :8-  

Maark  The one on the left looks like a Ebay item.  " Untested" "as is" "what you get is what you keep"  :279-

Pull out the Mouser catalog and start looking thru the Cap section. Should be easy to find.

lol You may be right Buzz !!
I got it from a member here on NLG actually... :72-
Anyways, look at how all that's left is the remains of the circuit trace copper
lifted up ( you can see it at the broken tip of my Exacto knife...I think I need a new blade...lol )
as someone tore off the IC component off the board..argh!!!

In the second photo below, I found what appears to be someone with a careless screwdriver
ripping and scraping across the from the corner of the board into the C12 IC component.
I'm not sure if the exposed leg is the result of an over-cooked IC
or the dummy with a screw driver hitting it... :8-
Either way...I'm screwed... :97- :72-
Click on photos to enlarge...>>>

Mark, looks like the IC at board location U3 is cooked also. Replacing the caps and that IC might only be the beginning. It doesn't look like the scratch on the board was bad enough to have caused your problem unless it actually cut through the traces on the board. Best bet says you should just find a good replacement from a vendor here and save a lot of frustration :89-

Oh, I see one of the legs is lifted on CR12 and it's shot to. I wouldn't count on R13 being any good either, but maybe :103-

It can be saved, find the components and send it to me. I'll fix it up and send it back :88-

Cowboy,
I think the U3 component is only banged up a bit...I'm not sure if it's "cooked" really...
It looks scraped up on the edges?
Thanks for looking at it!! :3- :244-  :209-

Thanks for the offer coors!  :3- :244- :131-
However, let me see if I can locate the parts for this little puppy?
I want the blame if I butcher it up!  :72-
Actually, I'm pretty sure that if I get all the parts - I will be able to fix it with some help from board guys here on NLG.
What I need really though - is some schematics so I can power it up to try out the SMD LEDs too... :99-
The board number is: 75126900 REV A >>>

Sorry Mark, Have to rub it in a little   :79-

Look What I Just Hit !!!   :200- :200-

Nice hit...I'm RED WITH JEALOUSLY!!! :72-
Does your ring lights come on as the bonus wheel is spinning coors?

You might be right Mark, it looked like the surface of it had gotten hot and distorted in the picture, but even that doesn't neccessarilly mean it's wrecked. Depends on what it is and what it's used for.

My guess is that it's a switcher (CRxx's ) for the SMD lamps on the other side of it.
It looks like they put one between each pair of LED's?
The [Qxx's] look like timer IC's
while the [Rxx"s] look like resistor IC's...

Elaborating the rest of the IC's:
Uxx's (eproms)
Cxx's (capacitors)
Jxx's (connector headers..."Joints"?)
Fxx's ( no idea)
DSxx's (SMD LED's
L2 (no idea)
E1 (no idea)
RPxx's ( again, no idea)
MHxx's ( I'm guessing "Machine Hardware"? lol )

Yes they do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3myMOR6v9E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3myMOR6v9E)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x1d98GdXjU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x1d98GdXjU)

Take my word for it. TIM CAN REPAIR IT.
Ford

Oh...!
I don't doubt that Coors could indeed repair it Fordsbs!
It's just something I want to see if I could do is all...!
It's my personal machine and baby... :96-
All the SMD LED's are good on this board...so THAT'S not it...
Photo below is of what's left of my pencil eraser after taking that black rubber ring off the circuit board....lol>>>

http://www.youtube.com/v/abemWEG1v5w?hl=en&fs=1 (http://www.youtube.com/v/abemWEG1v5w?hl=en&fs=1)

Okay, I having a problem searching for a few IC components.
First of all, I don't know what I'm looking for...lol

From what I understand, the IC component's I need to repair this bonus reel light board are
surface mount aluminum electrolytic capacitors.
I cannot for the life of me figure out what the values are that are written on top of the cans.

The 1st one has this:
251
22
3.5 or 35

The 2nd one has this:
100
CFC
1PN

The second photo below is a screen shot from the mouser website ordering page.
Would anyone have any clues as to what values I should let the website search narrow it down to?
Click on any photo to enlarge...>>>

Hi Mark, your's aren't labeled the same as the ones I have on hand, but as a last resort you could lift them off the board and use a cap checker to see what the values are. I would bet 35v and whatever Mic value

1st one is a 22uF 35v and the 2nd is a 100uF 35v. They are SMD Aluminum Electrolitic Caps. They come in letter sizes but with mouser it is just easier to measure your solder tab width and pick the one that matches. My son has a whole bunch of these, I will have him look for a few.

Thanks coors...tell your son "Thanks from Stayouttadabunker" too!  :89-

I never thanked you Cowboy! Thanks!  :3- Have a good holidays!

Did you get it working then, Mark?

Not this one yet,  no.
The cap I got from the boy has been sitting on my desk forever.  :5-
I just soldered it in but I know it's not going to work because there are a couple
of more missing resistors next to it in locations "L1" and "C5" that I have to get as well.

This Bonus reel Dazzle LED circuit board was mangled pretty good.
Somebody busted off three IC components in one shot.
How that happened I have no idea but would love to hear it!  :72-

I'll update you guys soon when I get it running.

L1 should be an inductor and C5 would be a capacitor.

small tiny stuff...thanks for the info Foster!