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Title: Reset the hard meters Post by: theDotster on March 21, 2010, 09:26:42 AM Hi,
I'm sure this question must have been asked before, but I can't find it anywhere! Is it possible to reset the hard meters back to zero, even if this involves taking them out and applying some power to them so they spin around quickly! :79- Paul Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: Thor777 on March 21, 2010, 12:40:27 PM Hi, I'm sure this question must have been asked before, but I can't find it anywhere! Is it possible to reset the hard meters back to zero, even if this involves taking them out and applying some power to them so they spin around quickly! :79- Paul There WAS a post SOMEHERE around here about just that , I remember reading it a while ago, might have been on the old site but I remember someone saying you actually can get them open and manually reset the gears but it so tedious and nerve racking that it is a lot easier to just buy new ones. (I didn't say cheaper) I remember something about a dremel and glue and a magnifying glass and tweezers... :97- :79- Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: theDotster on March 21, 2010, 12:45:31 PM I remember something about a dremel and glue and a magnifying glass and tweezers... :97- :79- Hmmmmm, I think I remember it now. I think in the post it said something about the meter sends a signal back so you can't just short it out and get the numbers to click through, or it works off a pulse only. Never mind, thanks for jogging my memory. Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: KirkLasVegas on March 21, 2010, 03:01:35 PM I remember something about a dremel and glue and a magnifying glass and tweezers... :97- :79- Hmmmmm, I think I remember it now. I think in the post it said something about the meter sends a signal back so you can't just short it out and get the numbers to click through, or it works off a pulse only. Never mind, thanks for jogging my memory. They are a "pulse" mechanical device. Sometimes you can remove the cover pretty easy,other times it requires drilling out a pop rivet. It is a pain in the ass to do, but it can be done! What I have done in the past is to set the left hand digits to 999 then pulse the meter until it finally hits 0000000. The meters DO NOT send any signals back,they are simply a coil/armature/ratchet movement. If you check on Ebay there are "Electronic" meters that are resettable, if meters are important to you. Personally, I have most of mine disabled (Especially the noisy ones) Kirk Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 21, 2010, 04:19:48 PM I've set them back to zero just to see if I could do it.
They work with a small solenoid...similar to the solenoid behind a coin mech rake. Purely electromechanical...a pawl lever and gears. If you only want to do one machine - I would be glad to show you. But if you want to do like 10,20 or more machines - it's best to get new ones. They are only good for so many complete turns... after that, they stick or get caught between numbers. Sometimes they don't even move. I will look up the voltage of the pulse and see if there is a digital re-settable replacement counter that would be suitable for you. PM me with your needs. Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: coorslight115 on March 21, 2010, 05:06:27 PM I've set them back to zero just to see if I could do it. They work with a small solenoid...similar to the solenoid behind a coin mech rake. Purely electromechanical...a pawl lever and gears. If you only want to do one machine - I would be glad to show you. But if you want to do like 10,20 or more machines - it's best to get new ones. They are only good for so many complete turns... after that, they stick or get caught between numbers. Sometimes they don't even move. I will look up the voltage of the pulse and see if there is a digital re-settable replacement counter that would be suitable for you. PM me with your needs. S-Plus ones are stamped 24 volts Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 21, 2010, 06:06:15 PM Thanks coors! :3-
Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: coorslight115 on March 21, 2010, 07:02:36 PM Use these... Just reduce the voltage with the proper resistor.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CH-7-digits-LCD-coin-Counter-arcade-slot-machine_W0QQitemZ250593768739QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a588d7523 (http://cgi.ebay.com/CH-7-digits-LCD-coin-Counter-arcade-slot-machine_W0QQitemZ250593768739QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a588d7523) Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 21, 2010, 07:24:11 PM Those are the ones I use but they are 12 volts.
Using a resistor makes the resistor a bit hot...heat has to go somewhere. I haven't tried 12Vdc regulators yet though, as described in this thread>>> http://www.eidusa.com/Electronics_Kits_12_Voltage_Reg.htm (http://www.eidusa.com/Electronics_Kits_12_Voltage_Reg.htm) Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: KirkLasVegas on March 21, 2010, 07:35:27 PM Those are the ones I use but they are 12 volts. Using a resistor makes the resistor a bit hot...heat has to go somewhere. I haven't tried 12Vdc regulators yet though, as described in this thread>>> http://www.eidusa.com/Electronics_Kits_12_Voltage_Reg.htm (http://www.eidusa.com/Electronics_Kits_12_Voltage_Reg.htm) TWENTY-FOUR dollars for that? Just use a 7812 regulator IC and a 100MFD,10MFD cap and mount it on something metal. The tab is ground anyways.... 7812 about 50 cents to a dollar 100Mfd 25 volt cap about 35 cents 10 Mfd 15 volt cap under a buck.... under 5 bucks for it all. Kirk Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 21, 2010, 07:44:29 PM I agree with you kirk - I thought it was high priced too, especially for such few components.
It was just a quick google search... However, this $24 board has an LED light.... :200- :72- :97- Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: KirkLasVegas on March 21, 2010, 08:06:57 PM I agree with you kirk - I thought it was high priced too, especially for such few components. It was just a quick google search... However, this $24 board has an LED light.... :200- :72- :97- Well..... I completely *MISSED* the LED light.... Makes this a deal at twice the price! Honestly.... Radio Shack sells little printed circuit board squares that are fine for building regulators. IF...and i say IF you were inbetween a rock and a hard place, these meters draw NOTHING! So if you had to make one work a simple voltage divider network would do the trick. Simply tie into the 24 volt line and take TWO 2200 ohm resistors in series. At the tiepoint will be TWELVE volts at a limited amount of current. Since they draw close to nothing this trick would work... Kirk Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 21, 2010, 08:57:25 PM Well..... I completely *MISSED* the LED light.... Makes this a deal at twice the price! Honestly.... Radio Shack sells little printed circuit board squares that are fine for building regulators. IF...and i say IF you were in between a rock and a hard place, these meters draw NOTHING! So if you had to make one work a simple voltage divider network would do the trick. Simply tie into the 24 volt line and take TWO 2200 ohm resistors in series. At the tiepoint will be TWELVE volts at a limited amount of current. Since they draw close to nothing this trick would work... Kirk Excellent, excellent post Kirk! I can learn a few tricks from ya! :3- :131- Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: coorslight115 on March 21, 2010, 11:08:36 PM Well..... I completely *MISSED* the LED light.... Makes this a deal at twice the price! Honestly.... Radio Shack sells little printed circuit board squares that are fine for building regulators. IF...and i say IF you were in between a rock and a hard place, these meters draw NOTHING! So if you had to make one work a simple voltage divider network would do the trick. Simply tie into the 24 volt line and take TWO 2200 ohm resistors in series. At the tiepoint will be TWELVE volts at a limited amount of current. Since they draw close to nothing this trick would work... Kirk Excellent, excellent post Kirk! I can learn a few tricks from ya! :3- :131- My point exactly !! It is a monentary pulse! Proper resistor is all you need. Maybe after a thousand or so coins back to back it might get a little warm..but no more than that. Use a 1 watt resistor and mount it to a heat sink if you are worried (OVER KILL!! ) Title: Re: Reset the hard meters Post by: stayouttadabunker on March 21, 2010, 11:19:41 PM lol...I just want to be safe...don't wanna fire!
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