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Title: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: jbt777 on April 19, 2010, 07:06:15 PM
Hello,
I have a R W B s-plus.  Denom .25    It seems to hit any 7's about every 50 pulls.  How could the win frequency be changed so that playing it isn't so predictible?  Can this be set in the self test mode?  Or do you have to use a certain set chip.  Also, what are the differnces between the certain set chips?  Your info is always greatly appreciated

JT


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: coorslight115 on April 19, 2010, 07:20:28 PM
Win frequency is determined by the reel chip. You must have a high percent chip in there. You could change it to a lower percentage chip if you don't like winning. Do you know what chips are in there???

use this to help you tell the chips
http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: Thor777 on April 19, 2010, 10:04:38 PM
Hello,
I have a R W B s-plus.  Denom .25    It seems to hit any 7's about every 50 pulls.  How could the win frequency be changed so that playing it isn't so predictible?  Can this be set in the self test mode?  Or do you have to use a certain set chip.  Also, what are the differnces between the certain set chips?  Your info is always greatly appreciated

JT

Mine did the same thing for about 2 months of playing everday, red 7's, white 7's, and blue ones seemed like every 20 pulls !  BUT since then the darn machine hasn't hit ANY 7 combo for 8 months !!!!...  tempermental, I don't know but if it don't change it's attitude soon it's going to be turned into a 10x machine ! (or I might just do a RAM clear)  :79-


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: coorslight115 on April 19, 2010, 11:27:18 PM
Hello,
I have a R W B s-plus.  Denom .25    It seems to hit any 7's about every 50 pulls.  How could the win frequency be changed so that playing it isn't so predictible?  Can this be set in the self test mode?  Or do you have to use a certain set chip.  Also, what are the differnces between the certain set chips?  Your info is always greatly appreciated




JT

Mine did the same thing for about 2 months of playing everday, red 7's, white 7's, and blue ones seemed like every 20 pulls !  BUT since then the darn machine hasn't hit ANY 7 combo for 8 months !!!!...  tempermental, I don't know but if it don't change it's attitude soon it's going to be turned into a 10x machine ! (or I might just do a RAM clear)  :79-


Yeah!  Ram clear will get you hitting all the time Thor ! :79- :79- :79- :79- :208-


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: knagl on April 20, 2010, 07:26:10 AM
JT- One of the things that made the RWB theme popular in the casino was its frequent mixed 7's hits.  Every 50 pulls sounds a little on the "too frequent" side, but if you play it enough it will balance out.  The machine is not programmed to hit mixed 7's every 50 spins or anything like that.

If you're able to tell us what reel (SS) chip is in your game, we can tell you the payback percentage of that chip and also give you an idea of how frequently mixed 7s are supposed to hit.  Here are instructions on how to determine what SS chip you have:
http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm)


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: StatFreak on April 20, 2010, 09:55:19 AM
JT- One of the things that made the RWB theme popular in the casino was its frequent mixed 7's hits.  Every 50 pulls sounds a little on the "too frequent" side...

Unless he has a five-line version, in which case, it will actually hit more frequently than that in the long run. It's the reason that I love that theme. :91-

We'll know for certain once JT posts the SS number. :79-

Stat :31-


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: coorslight115 on April 20, 2010, 10:08:49 AM
He has a 2cm single line game. with SS6624 98% chip. Thats why it hit soo much.


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: StatFreak on April 20, 2010, 10:34:02 AM
He has a 2cm single line game. with SS6624 98% chip. Thats why it hit soo much.

Did he send you a PM?

Anyway, with the SS6624, the odds of hitting mixed sevens are 1 in 266.

jbt777, while it would not be out of the norm for the machine to hit once every 50 pulls in the short-term, I'm wondering if perhaps you may have a slightly magnified view of the frequency of these hits.

Have you actually counted the spins? Most people really don't realize how fast a slot actually plays. If one plays by pressing the max bet button with credits on the machine, one is playing somewhere between 10 to 15 games per minute, so 50 spins would take less than five minutes, and perhaps as little as three-and-a-half minutes. Hitting once every 100-150 spins (about once every 10-15 minutes) would be much more likely to occur over a longer span of play and might seem like fewer spins than it really is.

Just to recap what knagl mentioned, the RWB was specifically designed to pay back a large percentage of the money on mixed sevens. In the case of your SS6624, 30.0% of all money wagered is being paid back by that one hit. That represents 30.73% of the payback.

Hope this helps.

Stat :31-


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: coorslight115 on April 20, 2010, 11:12:23 AM
He has a 2cm single line game. with SS6624 98% chip. Thats why it hit soo much.

Did he send you a PM?

Anyway, with the SS6624, the odds of hitting mixed sevens are 1 in 266.

jbt777, while it would not be out of the norm for the machine to hit once every 50 pulls in the short-term, I'm wondering if perhaps you may have a slightly magnified view of the frequency of these hits.

Have you actually counted the spins? Most people really don't realize how fast a slot actually plays. If one plays by pressing the max bet button with credits on the machine, one is playing somewhere between 10 to 15 games per minute, so 50 spins would take less than five minutes, and perhaps as little as three-and-a-half minutes. Hitting once every 100-150 spins (about once every 10-15 minutes) would be much more likely to occur over a longer span of play and might seem like fewer spins than it really is.

Just to recap what knagl mentioned, the RWB was specifically designed to pay back a large percentage of the money on mixed sevens. In the case of your SS6624, 30.0% of all money wagered is being paid back by that one hit. That represents 30.73% of the payback.

Hope this helps.

Stat :31-

Yes, he sent me a PM and I told him all the optional chips and percentages for that game.


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: StatFreak on April 20, 2010, 12:52:27 PM

Yes, he sent me a PM and I told him all the optional chips and percentages for that game.

 :133- K+

:31-


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: Thor777 on April 20, 2010, 08:28:40 PM
Mine did the same thing for about 2 months of playing everday, red 7's, white 7's, and blue ones seemed like every 20 pulls !  BUT since then the darn machine hasn't hit ANY 7 combo for 8 months !!!!...  tempermental, I don't know but if it don't change it's attitude soon it's going to be turned into a 10x machine ! (or I might just do a RAM clear)  :79-
Yeah!  Ram clear will get you hitting all the time Thor ! :79- :79- :79- :79- :208-

hehe...THATS why I love the stir the pot gif !   :79-   :97- :97- :97-


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: jdkmunch on April 20, 2010, 09:43:18 PM
It's all random.


Title: Re: Too Many Wins!!
Post by: QUARKCOM on May 14, 2010, 03:53:08 PM
Hello jbt777:  :88-

Well I think your problem should be solved with some practical data. For example, imagine having played games averaging about 4000 per day.
In the case of SS6624, I see that to win the jackpot, you need 32,768 moves to win this combination. So the Jackpot will come out in about 8.192 days, and in the whole cycle will be paid this combination 8 times.
In this case for me, would be very fast, i would like to have a jackpot at least each month, but that depends on you. In any case you should study well the awards Jackpots, at least for the two highest combinations. I send you the parsheet of this game.