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Title: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: uscjunkie on June 03, 2010, 09:32:42 PM
I just bought a Triple Double Strike machine for my home and I'm not certain it is acting right even though the people I bought it from says that it is. I was wondering if someone could help me. To start when I first turned it on the volume was really loud. I went in and turned everything down to level 1 and it is much better. The problem though is the reel motor. The reel motor is actually coming though the speakers when the reels are spinning and is very loud. Why is this sound coming through the game speakers if it is just the motor that turns the wheels that is making the noise?

Thanks in advance for any help!


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: Tilt on June 03, 2010, 09:49:43 PM
Hi uscjunkie,

Welcome to  :nlg- 

Alot of S2000's suffer from audio problems, it not just yours.  Some members have found by adding a resistor inline with the speakers you can cut down on the hum and other noise coming from your speakers.  IGT fixed most of the problems in later revisions of the MPU board.  In a loud casino you won't hear it, in your home you will!  Grab your beverage of choice and start reading this thread, it should help you some.

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=145.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=145.0)

After you digest all that add another post if you still have questions.






Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: MrBellMan on June 03, 2010, 10:03:51 PM
The easiest fix is to get a 504B MPU board. The designed the board to eliminate just that issue. You will also need a Key chip as well (Key31). You may be able to get both from one of the vendors at the top of the page.

Good luck!

Rob


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: uscjunkie on June 03, 2010, 10:20:46 PM
Man that sucks to buy a machine and as soon as I get it I have to do repairs to it!  Problem is I'm not very knowledgeable about messing with electronic boards and all the things I read from the suggested thread above.  I can almost live with the static sound that comes from the speakers....the part that really bothers me is the loud hum that comes through the speakers as the wheels spin.  It over-powers any other sounds and forget about watching tv while you're playing the machine.


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: Tilt on June 03, 2010, 11:04:13 PM
Yeah, it does.  It would probably be easier for you to get a 504 Rev B MPU board as Bellman suggested to fix it then.  If you bought your machine from a dealer then maybe you can work with them to get one?  If not, try one of the vendors at the top of the page or post a wanted to buy (WTB) in the classified section for one.  Get a keychip for it too like Bellman said, you'll need it.

One other common problem with these S2000 MPU boards is they have a green nicad battery on them that will go dead and leak acid destroying traces and components on the board.  If you just play the machine by the time you notice a problem it will be too late.  Remove it as a preventative measure before it has a chance to do any damage.  The soldered in coin cell battery is fine, you need that, and it won't leak.  Just get rid of the green one, it's not needed for home use.  See this thread for more info on that: http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=7775.0





 


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: uscjunkie on June 03, 2010, 11:15:03 PM
Thanks guys for all the advice....it looks like I'm going to get smart on soldering and replacing boards or be stuck with a crappy sounding machine?  Can someone explain to me how hard this board replacement will be and why a new keychip is required?  I guess if i knew what a keychip did it would make more sense.  Man looks like I got some homework to do!


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: Tilt on June 03, 2010, 11:46:33 PM
The MPU is easy to replace. Open the main door and it's located inside the cabinet on the left hand side. You'll see a small handle you can use to pull it straight back with.  You'll have to remove the coin tray (or coin tray cover) in order to pull it all the way out of the machine.  The coin tray moves up about a 1/2 inch or so and then pull it away from the front of the machine.  Make sure that turn the machine off before removing or installing anything though!

A keychip is required to set up certain options on the machine.  The denomination, payback percentage, credit limits, and some others all require it if you want to change them from default settings (and you probably will).  Without it you can view, but not change the settings.

In a casino setting it's supposed to help keep everyone honest.
 


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: uscjunkie on June 04, 2010, 12:07:52 AM
Awesome info Tilt and MrBellMan....can't tell you how much I appreciate the help!  I bought the machine from Rocky Mountain Slots, so tomorrow I will call them and inquire about the new board mentioned above and the the keychip.  I will let you guys know what I find out.


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: Buzz on June 04, 2010, 02:30:28 AM
Tilt  How come no one ever tells a new guy about keeping his thumb back when removing the MPU on a S 2000.   First one got ME.

I typed this up earlier today and it didn't post so will try again. I had a S 2000 with the nosiest reels you ever heard, so noise you couldn't hear the reel music, Sommer was here at my house and he couldn't stand them either. His fix was to remove the reels , he then took a deepwell socket, placed it over the shaft and smacked the socket  a good one ( I don't remember what he hit it with, I know it wasn't a 2 pound hammer but he hit it a pretty good lick ) I think what he did was drive the retainer clip down to tighten every thing up. He told me to get some Super Glue and put it on the retainer clip and shaft so it couldn't move later on. Hey it worked.  now as a after thought maybe Bunker's black tape in the basket would absorb some of the metal to hard plastic noise.  :89- :89- :89-


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: uscjunkie on June 04, 2010, 12:45:45 PM
Here is the problem though...when I called Rocky Mountain Slots yesterday and told them that it was very loud they said the reels are just loud...nothing you can do about it.  I don't think it is a reel problem though.  The machine plays music when the reels start to spin.  You can hear it through the speakers just fine.  But there is also this crazy loud sound that comes through the speakers while the reels are spinning.  Once the reels stop so does the sound.  So it isn't just some reel noise from the motor like they told me.  It is actually coming through the speakers.  Problem I have is I don't know enough about these machines yet to speak smartly when I call these folks.  You almost need to hear it for yourself.  I can turn off all sounds through the sound settings and it will still make that loud noise when the reels spin and it comes through the speakers.  I hope that made some type of sense.


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: stormrider on June 04, 2010, 01:19:12 PM
Here is the problem though...when I called Rocky Mountain Slots yesterday and told them that it was very loud they said the reels are just loud...nothing you can do about it.  I don't think it is a reel problem though.  The machine plays music when the reels start to spin.  You can hear it through the speakers just fine.  But there is also this crazy loud sound that comes through the speakers while the reels are spinning.  Once the reels stop so does the sound.  So it isn't just some reel noise from the motor like they told me.  It is actually coming through the speakers.  Problem I have is I don't know enough about these machines yet to speak smartly when I call these folks.  You almost need to hear it for yourself.  I can turn off all sounds through the sound settings and it will still make that loud noise when the reels spin and it comes through the speakers.  I hope that made some type of sense.

Does the machine have Backlit reels ?

It's a common problem with the speaker noise on these S2000 even worse with Backlit reels
if you want to fix it cheap I suggest the resistor mod in the other thread listed above
very simple and it works and the key chip is a must have for future use in setting up the machine or changing kits.

You might want to post a video of the machine in action so we all can hear it
but I'm sure you just have the common speaker noise we all dealt with before.



Tim


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: uscjunkie on June 04, 2010, 01:28:34 PM
Here is the problem though...when I called Rocky Mountain Slots yesterday and told them that it was very loud they said the reels are just loud...nothing you can do about it.  I don't think it is a reel problem though.  The machine plays music when the reels start to spin.  You can hear it through the speakers just fine.  But there is also this crazy loud sound that comes through the speakers while the reels are spinning.  Once the reels stop so does the sound.  So it isn't just some reel noise from the motor like they told me.  It is actually coming through the speakers.  Problem I have is I don't know enough about these machines yet to speak smartly when I call these folks.  You almost need to hear it for yourself.  I can turn off all sounds through the sound settings and it will still make that loud noise when the reels spin and it comes through the speakers.  I hope that made some type of sense.

Does the machine have Backlit reels ?



Tim

Funny you should ask.....when I bought the machine it was advertised as having enhanced sound and backlit reels.  When I called to purchase it I specifically asked to make sure it had backlit reels and I was told he checked and it does.  Well if it does in fact have backlit reels, they aren't working.  That is another thing I have to ask about when I call them today.  Tim, does it matter if it has backlit reels as far as the sound problems I'm having?  Are the two related?  Here is the machine I ordered.

http://www.rockymountainslots.com/slot-machines/slot-machine-details.php?slot=528&cat=1&catname=use-slot-machines&subcat=28&subcatname=IGT+S2000+Reel+Slots+Round+Top&slotname=IGT (http://www.rockymountainslots.com/slot-machines/slot-machine-details.php?slot=528&cat=1&catname=use-slot-machines&subcat=28&subcatname=IGT+S2000+Reel+Slots+Round+Top&slotname=IGT)<BR>S2000<BR>TRIPLE DOUBLE STRIKE<BR>3 COIN<BR>SINGLE DENOMINATION<BR>ROUND TOP<BR>ITEM#24

Thanks
Steven


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: uscjunkie on June 04, 2010, 01:35:32 PM
Tim,

I don't know the first thing about making a resistor mod and I'm hesitant to do anything until I know for sure I'm having the same problem that you guys are talking about.  I do get some static from the speakers when it is just sitting idol but this crazy noise that happens while the reels are spinning makes the game unusable in a home environment.  Will drive you crazy and heading for the Tylenol bottle in a hurry.


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: stormrider on June 04, 2010, 01:47:25 PM
Steven,

Don't sweat it,Looking at the link you posted the machine is suppose to have backlit reels
if you open the main door (machine on of course) take a peek behind the reels strips you should see
the bulbs dimly lit also the back of the reel strips should be black in color.

If this machine was shipped something could have come loose
or if you went and picked it up you could have still knocked something loose
either way we will  get you fixed up.

I sent you a pm in which you can call me for further help

Just a side note if you are afraid of soldering you can always tightly twist
the wires around resistors then use electrical tape,you will be cutting 3 wires
and stripping the ends putting the resistor in the middle.
Radio Shack has the resistors you need
for .99 cents here is the part #271-1101
you get 5 in a pack.

Tim


Title: Re: IGT S2000 Machine
Post by: jdkmunch on June 04, 2010, 07:03:14 PM
Tilt  How come no one ever tells a new guy about keeping his thumb back when removing the MPU on a S 2000.   First one got ME.

Lol me too!

Also the little tiny light on the igame Wow does that hurt!