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My wife asked me that if our slot machine randomly picks which reels to stop and when, what difference is in the different % chips. I tried to BS my way thru the question, but it didnt work..... mostly cuz I dont know :)

Any input? Mine is the "stock" chip but I was offered an 85% one, I think. Does that mean the house gets 85% compared to 97%?

Rick :25-

House get's 15% instead of 3%

so, for house use.... my house....and using tokens, I am better off with the higher %? Goal is for people(my wife) to win more.

Correct.  The player get's the high payout.  Your wife will like the 97% better then 85%.
Ford

whew.... I wont have to spend more money :)

The % isin a loooooooooong time of play.

Well, its cooling off now in AZ... so she will be in the garage playing more soon. Too hot out there now for her. I like to let her play a while, losing.... then grab a handful of tokens and "show her how to win". I am always surprised when it works and pisses her off. I will rattle up a few hundred credits then say "here ya go,, burn those off". She does.... hahahaha

At my house it's the other way. Every time my wife goes on a machine she hit's. We both loved the casino. We went to Atlantic City once a month. Then in 95 she became disabled and can't get to go. That's how I got involved in slot's for her to play @ home.

thats how I got this machine.... disabled older lady stuck at home, so they spend like $600 for this machine about 4 years back. It quit working and they called a local slot place and his estimate without looking at it was somewhere over $200.... so, I offered $200 to take it off their hands and I got it.... spent about $25 for parts and a few days bugging this website and we have a good machine.

My grandkids like it more than anyone here.... they see a cherry show up anywhere and hoot and hollar.

For most games (but not all) the difference between the lower and higher paying chips is found in the lower and mid-level payouts. Simply put, the higher paying chips have slightly more lower and mid-level payouts. The top prize odds usually don't change.

With IGT reel games, I've found that in many cases the higher paying chips often have a few more of the lower payouts (like mixed bars), and they shift some of the lower mid-level payouts (like single and even double bars) to the upper mid-level payouts (like double and triple bars). This is by no means a hard and fast rule.

There are some games that have different odds for the top prizes as well. Oddly, in some cases, it's the lower paying chip that has better odds of hitting the top prize, but at the expense of more smaller prizes.

Changing the payouts on a game design is a subtle massage, not a rip and gut affair. For standard three-reel slots, it only takes a few minor changes to make all the difference in the math.

Hope that helps.

Stat :31-

Stat :31-
That was a very well delivered "massage" by you!  :88- :96- :200- :208-

CH :95-

I'm massaging my machine as we speak.... :72-

To sum it up, my Sigma is deviated, my confidence is high, and my Tai Chi is squared.  :47-  (bad stat  :190-)

TMI Bunker  :200- :96-  We really don't want to know what you do with your machines in the dark!  :208- :208- :208-

Please don't send me any private massages!  :40- :40- :40-   ... messages, yes; massages, NO. :99- :81-       :72-   :72-

hahaha

Happy Ending?  :207- :207- :207-


 :208- :208- :208-

:190- :190- :190- :190- Bad me, Bad Bad me!

I think the return on this thread is dropping fast. :94-
One could even say that it's bottomed out. :200-   :127-  :30- :30-

at least

I had a feeling there was a high level of confidence that I was instigating something kind of punny!
 :97- :97-
Thanks for the cheap laughs !!! :244- :244- :72-

CH :95-

The key word was...."massage"
That's all it takes to set off wildfires here...  :25- :72-

I'm confident that massaging deviates our attention, ...squared!  :96-

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Cheap?!  :37-  :25-    Wait 'till ya' get the bill !   :79-    :56- :56-



 :186- Let's see... Six honeymooners...  five bad a**s...  "four tunes" squandered  (Ow! That pun hurt)...  three comics on retainer for the evening...  two masseurs...  one sinking ship  :104-  -- hmmm, less the salary of the captain, :95- whom the customer provided himself...  permit fees...  "slot" fees at the harbor :96-...  settlement paid out on the lawsuit brought for damages caused the by subsequent wildfire by the thread owner... licensing fee to use "Twelve Days"...  attorney fees...  bill from the county for the cost of putting out the fire...  :192- :5-  hiring a paste-up artist to prepare the bill...  and let's not forget the accounting and bookkeeping fees: mechanical, "reel", and imagined... :186-





Stat  :31-











six honeymooners: reply #15
five bad a**s: replies #12, #15
fortunes lost: replies #6, #7, #8
three comics: stayouttadabunker, statfreak, brichter
two masseurs: stayouttadabunker, statfreak
one sinking ship: this thread

That's okay stat....the main thing is the question was answered and the questioner was happy...
after that...the threads usually go to hell... :72-
The work you did in determining the Capt's bill was amazing really... :131- :5-

yep, no worries here.... I got the info I needed, the rest just makes the day better.

Precisely.  :89-  :200-  :208- :208- :208-


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BTW Bunker, you should have said that it was PAR for the course. :127- :30-  :250-

I have a sneaking feeling that the original author :31- chose his words purposefully so that he may bait one of us! :208- :208- :208-

It was inevitable that he would have a hand in this!!!!!!!! :97- Or was it inevitable that we all would??? :200-

CH :95-

Wow I missed this page of replies when I added mine, but it sure seems appropriate...

Lets take a vote... The payment for my "BILL" should be to send a higher percentage chip to Rick if I can find one in my chiip collection!

CH :95-

Seriously Rick, Let me know what your current chip and game theme is, and I will see if I have a higher percentage chip that I can send to you, just PM me your address.

Consider it a payment from the victim assistance fund for those who get thread hijacked!!! :89- :71- :89-

hahaha... I will get the info... but no worries on my thread, you guys are fun. Most boards I am on are all about politics and hate, this place is refreshing.

I didnt know there were higher % chips than I have.... my wife may love you now.

Here is what I posted way back in April....

Game prom:
S-Plus Game
SP872 TYO/1/45
7-22-98 (1-512) RS
IGT L97-0976

S-Plus Reel
GK SS6242
1/8/97 (1-64)
IGT L95-0556

CMOS
KM 6264BL-10
246Y Korea

Ahh.. triple bonanza or one of the clones.. one of my favorite games

http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%202CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Triple%20Bonanza%20%282%20Coin%20Multiplier%29.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%202CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Triple%20Bonanza%20%282%20Coin%20Multiplier%29.htm)

there's a list of the higher paying chips for your game

so mine is a 92% and a 98% would give us more wins.... theoretically?

If you'll compare the 2 hits columns on these 2 par sheets.. one for your game and one for the 98% game you'll find there will be considerably more any bar hits, any bar with triple, & single bar wins.. yet you'll get less triple bar, triple with the triple bars and 2 triples and double bar hits.

So you sacrifice a higher win or two for more lower wins. 

The highest paying chip has fewer blanks, which is typical.

These two have done the opposite of what I described back in reply #9.

They removed two triple bars and two blanks from the middle reel and replaced them with double bars.
They changed one blank to a single bar on reels one and three.

That's all it took to raise it over 5½%  (5.545).

:31-

SS6242  92.506%
+----+ 
| SYM|  NUMBER / REEL
|    | R1  R2  R3
+----+---+---+---+
| ~~ | 42| 43| 46|
| CH |  3|  3|  3|
| 1B |  9|  8|  8|
| 2B |  7|  5|  6|
| 3B |  4|  5|  4|
| R7 |  3|  4|  2|
| WS |  2|  2|  2|
| TW |  2|  2|  1|
+----+---+---+---+


SS7688  98.051%
+----+ 
| SYM|  NUMBER / REEL
|    | R1  R2  R3
+----+---+---+---+
| ~~ | 41| 41| 45|
| CH |  3|  3|  3|
| 1B | 10|  8|  9|
| 2B |  7|  9|  6|
| 3B |  4|  3|  4|
| R7 |  3|  4|  2|
| WS |  2|  2|  2|
| TW |  2|  2|  1|
+----+---+---+---+

My mission ... Once I get all my machines working is to learn what all that means  :89-

ya, bottom line to me is I dont need to change chips.... as I see it. If my wife asks, I will just tell her all chip upgrades are on back order :)

Sounds like a great answer to me