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Just wanted to give some recognition and thanks to Rob at Rocky mountain Slots. In the past 2 months I bought 2 slots from him and the transaction was smooth and seamless. The second one arrived and soon after the coin comparator started acting up and giving me errors. Quick call to Rob and he's sending a replacement out to me.
Thats great customer service  :3-

I thought the owner of RMS was a guy named Brian? Oh well... :25-
I think RMS is a fantastic operation!  :89-
They helped me out a couple of times on some S+ parts I needed big time!
Great job guys!!! :3- :244-

Ya they way I understand it, Brian is the owner and the dad, Rob is the son

Rob is his brother...

I stand corrected

Yup, Rocky Mountain Slot folks are good folks... met 'em last time I was down that way. :3- :89-

Mom also works in the shop

So I finally got the replacement coin comparator and sadly its not the same as what was in there. This one has built in optics while the original had an external optics board. Of course the wiring is different so I need a new harness setup. Anyone have one for sale?

Just tell Rob to send you the right Comparitor. What kind of machine are you working on??

Its a Bally 6000 Double Wild Rose. I get the feeling that maybe RMS are too busy and I think I should try to find this harness elsewhere.

Outsider There is a thread going on right now about comparitors. Bunker just posted a Bally 6000 use a CC 16 D 24 Volt. If this is what you removed from your machine thats what you need to replace it with. If all the above is true, PM me your address and I will send you one, no charge.   Buzz

K+ to Buzz for making that offer.  Further proof that you're "one of the good guys."  :89-

Hi Buzz,

the one that was originally in the machine is a CC 16D 150 4b 24vac 14g. This one has external optics board. I can only pot in a couple of quarters then it faults out with code 24 or code 20. Rob then sent me a CC 40 which has internal optics and uses a different harness. I took the comparitor and harness out of my other machine and it works fine. its a MC 16 240v and it has built in optics.

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I hope this guy doesn't get pissed at me for posting the pm he sent me.  I couldn't ans. it last night, the power went out and I went to bed.

In reading this PM doesn't it sound more like a coin optic problem rather than a comparitor problem ??   :103- :103- :103-







Moderator Note: I fixed the post to eliminate the horizontal scroll bar. SF :31-

I guess we don't know what the original problem is, other than the first post where Outsider said that his comparator was giving him a lot of errors.  Since he originally had a comparator that didn't have optics built-in, the only "error" he could have had was that it was rejecting coins that it shouldn't have.  As such, I agree -- the optics (and not the original comparator) might be the issue.

We won't know, however, until Outsider returns to this post and can elaborate on what the original problem was.

Where's Wayne when you need him.   I just looked at outsiders profile and he lives North of our border.  I'm 99% sure Wayne told me that Canadian quarters are not made consistent and difficult to use in a slot machine.   Jay ?????????????

This is true, but let me clarify.  Quarters of the same year have the same metal content, however the variation in metal content over the years makes it a wide spread for coin acceptors.  Canadian casinos used tokens (before TITO) and avoided this problem.  I like to use the IDX X-10 coin acceptors for this reason.

Thanks,
Wayne

Heres a pic of the original coin comparator
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f209/Outsyder101/DSC01571.jpg)

As soon as I got the machine, a bally 6000 double wild rose, it was giving me errors 20 and 24. I cleaned it and made sure there was nothing interfering with it but the problem continued. RMS then sent  me another coin comparator but this time it was a CC-40 which from what I can tell has built in optics and thus a different harness (?) if thats the correct term. I think this new one will work if I can get the proper harness. I hope that makes sense.

And thank you very much to Buzz for your most generous offer.

I should also add that my other machine which uses a MC-16 works just fine with Canadian quarters

My offer is still good until the end of the month. PM me you address and one will be in the mail Monday. I will make damn sure it's a good one. You will have to furnish your own funny looking quarter.

Can anyone tell me if those optics are the same as a 5500 ( in the pic. looks the same) if they are I think I'll just send one of them to. Just in case  !!!!!!!!

Doesn't everyone wish all Pic. were as nice and clear as this one.

Outsider  I'm still going to send you these parts, but while your waiting for them, do me a favor, the adjusting screw on the front of the comparitor turn it CCW all the was then back toward + just a hair.  Unplug the coin optics, remove the two screws, and the board will be in your hand, clean the optics and reinstall, if I'm right it should work like a brand new one.

Just a shot - is there a prism behind the coin-in optics bracket?
It may be misaligned?

Mark I'll send him the whole thing.  If a 5500 and a 6000 are the same.   ???????????????????????????????????

they are .

W

They are Buzz! :89-
You're awesome!  :131- :3-

oops!    Mopar beat me again! lol
No fair! His engine's bigger than my subaru!!! :96-

I am at a loss for words to the generosity of Buzz. Many thanks to him and to all of you  that were helping in this thread

I don't think the comparator he had would cause any errors -- it simply accepts a coin (passes it through one slot -- let's call it path "A"), or rejects the coin (diverts it to another slot -- path "B") based on whether or not the inserted coin matches the sample coin.  It doesn't tell the machine that a coin has passed through.  In fact, the only signal it should get from the machine is, "ready to accept a coin" and "not ready", and this model shouldn't even talk back to the machine.

In the "not ready" state, every coin is rejected (path "B").  In the "ready" state, coins that match the sample are accepted and travel down path "A" to the optics.  It's the optics that tell the machine that a valid coin has been inserted and that the machine should issue credit.

I'd defer to Wayne's Bally expertise, but I strongly suspect that his optics may be the issue, and strongly suspect that his original comparator is just fine.

Kevin  we agree, that's why I'm including a complete optic set.  I will even make you a small bet, I bet the only thing wrong with his optics is, shimmed to wide or dirty. maybe both.

Oh I forgot I don't know anything about slot machines.  I call that the Basset Hound Syndrome, just go around acting like a dumb st*t and nothing is ever expected of you, I had a Basset Hound like that, she was dumb like a fox. A coule of members on NLG's come to mind. I got my two picked out, you pick your own  !!!!!!!!!!!   :208- :208-

I think I'm trying to get in trouble again.   No MR. Police Man I will not name names.

I have experienced coin in errors in a Bally 5500 from low/fluctuating voltages from the power supply.
He did say he had another machine. You could try swapping power supplies from the good machine and see if that corrects the issue.

Just a suggestion as this solved a coin in error for me.

swapping the optic board will most likely cure the problem.  As Buzz said, it could just be dirty.

W