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Just a heads up....you will not get the printer to work with these even though they may be in working order.  Any Bally S6000 must use 2003 mains for the printer to work outside of a validation server scenario, i.e., in a casino.  These machines require 2006 mains or newer for the bonus wheel to function properly.  So as a result you will not get the printer to work.  These are either hand pay or your install coin mechanics.  I prefer the hand pay as the jackpot / hand pay music on these are very nice.  Nice machines you have there.

Well Jim,

The one I have set up for my personal use tells me otherwise. It prints tickets on 2003 mains and works just fine. It's the blue version of these machines. Seeing how the machine was made in 2003 I don't think it has to have 2006 mains.

Glad you got them all going Tommy, now my question is do you still dislike (not hate) Ballys or are they OK

Monte Carlos were around before 2003 and the correct mains will work for each model.  We may have a convert here..
W

Jim,  :97-

I don't hate them it's just I think there are things that could be done a lot better. I am an IGT guy and everything on them is easy to understand and learn on your own. One thing I especially don't like even though it is not a big deal is the menu. Why can't the numbers be in order? Instead I got to search the whole menu to find what # I need because they are scattered. Who thought that one up? Let's make up the menu with numbers in random order to make it harder to navigate that sounds like a good idea.
Tommy

Mopar,

It is a 2003 and has 2003 mains and works Just fine and prints tickets as many times as you push the button and have paper for it.  :72-
By the way Jim at Blueridge Slots is the Man. He got me everything I need to get these Machines up and Running including hard to find Software. To me he is invaluable and always a great help.

I also have them with tickets working(for a long long time now) as I have mentioned to Jim at Bettor in the past, surprised he didn't remember.  Perhaps he has a different controller chip in the top board that won't work for him.

 I agree 100% with your comments about Jim at Blueridge.  Jim has always been able to supply hard to find items and packs better than anyone.  Every part I've purchased from him has performed as it should, I've never had an issue.  For the money involved in selling parts, I wouldn't do it.  I give him credit for spending valueable time to help others out.

Thanks,
Wayne

That is interesting to hear, but makes since it is one of the older models that can work on the old 2003 mains.  Most of the models I had / have in are 2006 and 2007.  I did find like you that I could get the printer to "work" with 2003 mains however several other anomaly's occurred as a result like incorrect top wheel payouts and incorrect music being played.

Some of these things you would not notice unless you played it for some time...like an hour.  During several wheel spins it would pay correctly....but on others the payout amount would not be correct.  In one case I can remember on a 5-L Stars and Bars (RWB), the machine would go completely haywire even though at first it seemed fine.

Here's a section of the manual that I worked from with regards to mains:

 :97-  LOL...I so wish I had this on tape.  I just went back and checked my log book on the one 5-Line RWB I worked on.  Here's what happened:

>>>>  Machine played as normal for about the first half hour of play, including 3 wheel spin bonuses.  Then on the 4th wheel bonus hit, after the full clear, the free spin bonus started as normal.  I hit the spin wheel button, the wheel spinned and the amount paid to the "winner paid" window was double the amount it should have been.  THEN....it went into 10 FREE SPINS of the reels below.  All hits during those free spins were added to the credit meter.  At the end of the free spins all credits won were added to the total.  Machine continued to play as normal like before.  LOL...WTF !!!  

2006 mains corrected the problem but no printer of course.

Here is a chip from 2003 that is later version than what is states is required, so they must of had them prior to 2003

I play my personal one all the time. No problems. Just as Wayne said his as worked perfectly fine for a long, long time.
T

I'm with Jim Blue on this one....I know in his comment he is saying "hey...these Bally's are pretty damn decent after all???".  Bally 6000's having been getting a bad wrap on this site for no good reason and it's time to put an end to it.  Mainly from those that have not worked on them enough or even had one in front of them.  I have both the memory and ass of an elephant and remember clearly that it was from these same mind sets that were just over a year ago bad mouthing S2000's in favor or the S-plus machines....do you want to check post history?  The fact is these are solid machines on the inside with heavy gauge metal parts where they IGT's use plastic or thin gauge metal instead.  They are also for the most part a very well organized harness setup where the IGT's look like spaghetti inside there.  I'll grant you the menu display is nice on a S2000 that makes set up easy...but isn't that what you do on a S-plus...like on the Bally, is go through your manual and look at the code numbers for what it is telling you or what settings you want?

I have to put my  5 cents in here also.
I was alway's IGT. I didn't want any part of Bally's. I got 4 as is (not shopped) Bally's
from Jim @ Bettor Slots. That changed my mind. With the help from Jim & NLG I enjoy working on them.
THEY ARE NOT THAT BAD.
Ford

I love Bally machines - so much in fact that when it comes down to having to give up one machine, I think it will be the dotmation.  :186-

I will split out this discussion at a later date. Considering how much attention this thread is getting, I think it is in morspeed's best interest to leave it as is for now.

Morspeed, if you would prefer to have a clean slate, let me know.


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I have to agree with Mopar on this. I will say that the doors on The 6000 machines is a way better construction then the s2000. If the S2000 is torqued a little the wrong way It won't close correctly.

And Stat we can leave it this is a good discussion for all.

i rather play a wof then a monte anyday, i think these should hold there value though..... the fun you have on a wof cant compare to a monte...... downfall on a monte i think is the solonoid click you here every time you hit the bet max button..... :72- heres my monte.....

Huh...... you can turn off the solenoid click. Mine don't do that.  I think is is the reel stop sound just like on the s2000 if you set it to reel stop click: solenoid it clicks when you hit max bet as well.
I have that exact game you have in my collection.

how do you turn it off????????

Do you have the manual?? Does it click on reel stops as well? If so set 38 to 0000.

it clicks every time i spin like hit max bet.... the click comes out of the handle mechanism......

heres another issue im having..... what can i use to cover them up?

Looks like you could use a new LED board . Luckily you can pick them up cheap by posting a want to buy on here or look on ebay. You need a Mikohn 12 cell display board.
Tommy

how do i get rid of the solonoid click? what options do i go in?

Staz, are you sure it's the handle? try to disconnect the coin chute diverter solenoid....  The handle release solenoid should click when you press bet one, is it the same click?

its the handle click i here it comen out of the handle cover.....

you won't be able to turn that off.  It activated the handle solenoid momentarily.  I would check to see that the screw linking to the solenoid is in place.  The click is normally not an issue.

Thanks,
Wayne  :40-

why does the solonoid click evry time though i hit bet max..... same machines at the casino theres no clicking at all..... it should only click when you bet one credit......

what mains are in yours?

how can you find out what mains it is?

Take out the MPU and look at the labels on the chips?  :129- :128-

or ask Jim what mains he installed.

W

would the mains have sutten to do with a solonoid click?

yes.  The mains that Jim at blueridge posted don't make the click on max bet.  also allows tickets.

W

the wierd part the click happens for a while then stops then starts again looks like soloniud at the handle  gets stuck at times i wish theres a way to keep it stuck, my last alternitive would be to disconect it.....theres def no option out there to turn it off?

i have 08 mains i found out...

I zip tied the solenoid on my s+ because unplugging caused an error. No big deal except your handle doesn't lock anymore

thats a good idea but i dont even no what a solonoid even looks like lol....im such a newbie hahahahaha

It's in the rear, right hand corner of the cbinet attached to the handle assembly framework. Pull your hopper out and shove your head in with a flashlight. It'll be the barrel looking thing with a 2 wire plug going to it. Slide the ziptie up behind it and over the top and zip it.

He said zip-tie----- :96-.  Actually he is correct it will work.  Not nothing I want to see in any of my games but it works for the time being for game play. B.

All a solenoid is a magnetically wound wire field with a plunger in the middle.
If you don't know how to solder - buy a replacement and swap it.

i fixed it jim at betterslots called me up and walked through it with me i unplugged it, i never use the handle anyway so it works for me, now how do i get my reels to be less noisy and stop wobbling ???
i wanna thank jim once again for being helpfull :244- :3- :244-

Heh...well I didn't "fix" it....I just killed it instead.  :186-  His machine was not clicking during the reels spin and stops and his 38 under the 11d settings is set to 0...just during the Bet it clicks...which is normal as far as I know...just like an IGT.  Maybe that other main gets rid of it, but I don't have it.  Anyway...knowing you personally....I know you don't care about the handle....so this get's rid of ALL clicking accept that going on still in your brain  :200-

On with the sale of these other great Montes...Tommy can't complain about all the publicity you've been getting.  :96-  By the way...very cool neon sign.

Topic split from WTS, renamed and moved to Bally Reel Games Board.



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