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Title: Picture Stealing
Post by: daddy2yea on October 07, 2010, 10:22:49 PM
Slotmachinewholesale has some explaining to do. So I'm looking on E-Bay and I see a Double Diamond Haywire for sale by slotmachinewholesale and I think to myself wow that picture looks  familiar, why? Cause I bought that Machine from Jim at Bettorslots. This person is using a picture of  Jim's  DD Haywire as his own. This is wrong. If you are going to post a picture of a slot machine that you're selling it should be of the actual Machine.  Jim puts in a lot of time and pride into his machines and no one should be using pictures of his machines to sell theirs. Look at the two links and see for yourself. On Jim's page the pic about halfway down and if look close you can Jim's reflection in the player tracking plate.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROUND-TOP-IGT-DOUBLE-DIAMOND-HAYWIRE-TOKEN-SLOT-MACHINE-/150503492353?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230ab50b01 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ROUND-TOP-IGT-DOUBLE-DIAMOND-HAYWIRE-TOKEN-SLOT-MACHINE-/150503492353?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item230ab50b01)

http://www.bettorslots.com/ARCHIVES.html (http://www.bettorslots.com/ARCHIVES.html)


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: stormrider on October 07, 2010, 10:35:47 PM
Sure is I think Jim should start adding his bettorslots.com to the pictures

The picture also shows the illuminated bill sticker and led bulbs on the button panel
which I doubt they do or ever thought about,unless they bought the machine from Jim.
I always like the way Jim has the back ground blacked out so the machine really pops out at you


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: knagl on October 07, 2010, 10:54:05 PM
I just used the "ask seller a question" function to ask:

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Does this machine have the green light-up "this machine accepts $1 $5 etc." sticker on the front of it, as shown in the picture? Also, does this machine have colored LEDs in the buttons, as it appears to have in the picture? Thank you.

We'll see what the answer is.

I agree, Jim should watermark his pictures with his company name and/or website to help thwart the efforts of people who would steal his images.


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: Magicslots on October 07, 2010, 11:15:38 PM
This is not the first time this has happened. Several months ago, I notified a member here that someone on ebay was using his pics, and another was doing the same on craigslist.
Good eyes there Daddy2yea!  :3-


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: PWRSTROKE on October 07, 2010, 11:49:41 PM
Is there perhaps that the seller is one and the same---- :103-.  Not uncommon to sell items using diff. accounts from what I have seen in diff. markets.  Was just a thought on my part>>>B.


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: daddy2yea on October 08, 2010, 12:21:25 AM
Is there perhaps that the seller is one and the same---- :103-.  Not uncommon to sell items using diff. accounts from what I have seen in diff. markets.  Was just a thought on my part>>>B.
No, two totally different companies. Mike


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: channelmaniac on October 08, 2010, 12:29:55 PM
If user B is hotlinking company A's pictures... then company A can watermark their pics... or better yet, change it on their website and replace the hotlinked picture with porn to get user B in trouble. ;)

If user B copied the picture then company A can only report the auction to eBay.


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: Bettor Slots on October 08, 2010, 01:33:21 PM
Company A just sent company B a nice letter.


Hey scum bag...why don't you get off your lazy ass and do your own work?  If your going to steal pictures off another company you might want make sure they are further away than 2 hours drive.  Thought this link might be of interest to you.

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=9732.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=9732.0)


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: dpalmi on October 08, 2010, 02:34:45 PM
... or better yet, change it on their website and replace the hotlinked picture with porn to get user B in trouble. ;)

+1

I've done that...lol!  Replaced the pic with a pic of some topless girl - surprise!!

Dan #2


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: stayouttadabunker on October 08, 2010, 02:36:09 PM
Not my choice of words Jim but hell yeah! That'll work!  :97- :72-


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: Bettor Slots on October 08, 2010, 03:25:12 PM
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Not my choice of words Jim but hell yeah! That'll work!

Heh...sorry...guess I'm a little ticked.  

I guess I could have been polite and said something like:

"Dear nice gentleman, we seem to minor misunderstanding.  It seems you have accidentally copied a picture of a custom refurbishment project of my own, a product that my company has sold or sells, off of the Internet and accidentally represented as your own.  Knowing your reputation as a leader in this industry and your high set of standards I have no doubt this is an obvious oversight and clerical error on either your part or perhaps one of your many staff members.  If you would be so kind as to correct this issue by replacing the accidentally copied photo with one of you own it would b e greatly appreciated.  Have a nice day and if you're ever in town, please stop by and lets do lunch."


But nah...any individual or company that stoops to this level doesn't deserve politeness.  What you are seeing here is a representation of todays society and it's youth.  I see a pattern from our youths from what I see and read and hear in the news about our capitalistic society.  You could argue, well this kind of thing always goes on, and it does, but not to the degrees I have seen as of late.  And in the past 5 years at the highest levels.  People SIT around and ask why our country is suddenly failing?...problem is success comes from work, hard work.  And when you do succeed as a result of hard work, others around you do what they can to bring you down or attempt to copy what you've done.  If your going to sit around and just coast through your life leaching off others you may have moments of success, but life long, you're going to fail.


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: stayouttadabunker on October 08, 2010, 03:33:22 PM
I agree.
I particularly think the 2nd, revised message was a lotta B.S.  lol
( "Let's do lunch"..... :208-)


I love how you got straight to the point in the first one!


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: Buzz on October 08, 2010, 03:42:53 PM
Slotmachinewholesale  Isn't this guy a member here, maybe using a different name?????????


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: Magicslots on October 08, 2010, 04:12:23 PM
 :107-    :107-    :107-

Go get em Jim!  Give em Hell brother!
   :125-


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: jay on October 08, 2010, 04:14:49 PM
Well perhaps.... just perhaps..... he was actually intendending on selling that machine at 25% above Bettors prices.
Then he would turn around and facilitate that sale by buying the "as pictured" machine from Jim.

Thus both being in a win-win situation.....

 :208-


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: proten on October 08, 2010, 05:06:02 PM
But that machine on Jim's site says that it is SOLD!!


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: jay on October 08, 2010, 05:14:47 PM
So the new-seller may have already bought it.....o' ye' of little faith in humanity.......  :72-

I would have just sent the ebay police after him.....


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: Bettor Slots on October 08, 2010, 05:17:31 PM
Uuum...so what if it's sold or if this guy took it in on trade or bought it?  Take your own dang picture!!!


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: jay on October 08, 2010, 05:24:25 PM
I am not disagreeing..... just trying to be the optimist....

You could always send a letter mocked up to look like it was from Bettor&Bettor partners in law stating copy-right violations.
Please contact us immediately .....to arrange licensing & settlement of claim.

I am sure if Office Max lifted a picture from a Staples flyer there would be legal papers being exchanged......


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: Bettor Slots on October 08, 2010, 05:40:38 PM
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I would have just sent the ebay police after him.....

I have been in "que" waiting to speak with Ebay police since 10:00 AM... :5-  They are raking in millions but can only afford a staff of 3 people in India to handle such things as this.


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You could always send a letter mocked up to look like it was from Bettor&Bettor partners in law stating copy-right violations.
Please contact us immediately .....to arrange licensing & settlement of claim.

I am sure if Office Max lifted a picture from a Staples flyer there would be legal papers being exchanged...


 :97- Not necessary to take it so far on something so minor... just a matter of principal.  Truth is the picture is not "copyrighted" legally per say.... just want the guy to know it's better to do his own work and take his own pictures. 



Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: brichter on October 09, 2010, 01:20:31 AM
Well perhaps.... just perhaps..... he was actually intendending on selling that machine at 25% above Bettors prices.
Then he would turn around and facilitate that sale by buying the "as pictured" machine from Jim.

Thus both being in a win-win situation.....

 :208-

That would be
Win      Win      Lose
Jim      SMW     Buyer who paid too much by not going to Jim for the slot.


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: Neonkiss on October 09, 2010, 03:12:58 AM
Jim,
Maybe you should send Marty a more appropriate picture to use.

 :208- :208- :72- :200- :208-


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: rickh on October 09, 2010, 03:30:08 AM
hahahahaha... this picture cracked me up!


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: brichter on October 09, 2010, 03:44:44 AM
Now THAT is funny!!!!!!! :208- :208- :208- :72- :72- :97- :72- :72- :208- :208- :208-


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: CaptainHappy on October 09, 2010, 09:22:10 AM
Now THAT is funny!!!!!!! :208- :208- :208- :72- :72- :97- :72- :72- :208- :208- :208-
:212- :205- :208-

CH :95-


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: CaptainHappy on October 09, 2010, 09:25:40 AM
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Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: Slotmaster on October 09, 2010, 10:17:58 AM
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Not my choice of words Jim but hell yeah! That'll work!

Heh...sorry...guess I'm a little ticked. 

I guess I could have been polite and said something like:

"Dear nice gentleman, we seem to minor misunderstanding.  It seems you have accidentally copied a picture of a custom refurbishment project of my own, a product that my company has sold or sells, off of the Internet and accidentally represented as your own.  Knowing your reputation as a leader in this industry and your high set of standards I have no doubt this is an obvious oversight and clerical error on either your part or perhaps one of your many staff members.  If you would be so kind as to correct this issue by replacing the accidentally copied photo with one of you own it would b e greatly appreciated.  Have a nice day and if you're ever in town, please stop by and lets do lunch."


But nah...any individual or company that stoops to this level doesn't deserve politeness.  What you are seeing here is a representation of todays society and it's youth.  I see a pattern from our youths from what I see and read and hear in the news about our capitalistic society.  You could argue, well this kind of thing always goes on, and it does, but not to the degrees I have seen as of late.  And in the past 5 years at the highest levels.  People SIT around and ask why our country is suddenly failing?...problem is success comes from work, hard work.  And when you do succeed as a result of hard work, others around you do what they can to bring you down or attempt to copy what you've done.  If your going to sit around and just coast through your life leaching off others you may have moments of success, but life long, you're going to fail.

um, just call em at 3AM

GOOGLE  SLOT MACHINES WHOLESALE  FOR INFORMATION ON THE WEB. OR CALL US AT (937) 510-7777     24HR SERVICE


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: StatFreak on October 09, 2010, 06:00:47 PM
um, just call em at 3AM ...

GOOGLE  SLOT MACHINES WHOLESALE  FOR INFORMATION ON THE WEB. OR CALL US AT (937) 510-7777     24HR SERVICE

... and tell them your machine won't take coins! After several minutes of questioning, tell them that you took the "extra" coin out of the comparitor! :200- :127-  :25- :30- :30-


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: slot monkey on October 09, 2010, 09:53:40 PM
I remember that machine at Bettor Slots.

I was working for Jim when he was shopping it out.


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: aklarry on October 10, 2010, 06:02:10 AM
I believe I own that machine, even had a call today on it Low Battery and it's not for sale customer loves it. Sorry just took another look the one I bought from Jim is in a blond cabinet. that one looks red
AkLarry


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: Bettor Slots on October 10, 2010, 04:45:13 PM
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I believe I own that machine, even had a call today on it Low Battery and it's not for sale customer loves it. Sorry just took another look the one I bought from Jim is in a blond cabinet. that one looks red
AkLarry

You own' it's sister.  I think I have a couple of cousins still sitting around here yet.


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I remember that machine at Bettor Slots.

I was working for Jim when he was shopping it out.

It's possible...about the same time frame.


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um, just call em at 3AM

GOOGLE  SLOT MACHINES WHOLESALE  FOR INFORMATION ON THE WEB. OR CALL US AT (937) 510-7777     24HR SERVICE


LOL....yeah I see they offer  24 hour phone service....anybody ever call it?...guessing you just get an answering machine.

Anyway...if it is Marty I'm gonna lay off...I hear he's not healthy and in the hospital.  Curious though...I though the had a partner.  I thought I heard they recently split.

Eh...boring...lets go on to something else...LOL.

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Jim,
Maybe you should send Marty a more appropriate picture to use.

Hah !!!  I love it!!!!  Hey can I hire you to MOD all my pics with something like that???  LOL


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: StatFreak on October 10, 2010, 06:12:01 PM
Jim,
Maybe you should send Marty a more appropriate picture to use.

 :208- :208- :72- :200- :208-

Hah !!!  I love it!!!!  Hey can I hire you to MOD all my pics with something like that???  LOL

Is the Marty who runs vegasslots777 the same person who runs slotmachineswholesale, who stole your picture?

It seems like we might be mixing them up. :103-


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: aklarry on October 10, 2010, 07:14:50 PM
How is your trip going finding things better than you thought I hope
Larry


Title: Re: Picture Stealing
Post by: Bettor Slots on October 10, 2010, 08:19:39 PM
Jim,
Maybe you should send Marty a more appropriate picture to use.

 :208- :208- :72- :200- :208-

Hah !!!  I love it!!!!  Hey can I hire you to MOD all my pics with something like that???  LOL

Is the Marty who runs vegasslots777 the same person who runs slotmachineswholesale, who stole your picture?

It seems like we might be mixing them up. :103-

I think they are one in the same.  I'm told he sports several web sites....but all the same company.