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« Reply #100 on: August 15, 2010, 09:01:20 PM »

i still say sometimes at the casino i wonder if ure player card has sutten to do with it specially in the high stakes slots....last week i got at the casino like 10 and every machine kept saying happy birthday and i was hitten like crazy the minute after midnight came and the machines stopped saying happy birthday i lost my balls lol.......
This was from Casino Player Magazine
Myth: “You can’t win if you’re playing with a slot club card!”

Truth: This notion is absolutely false. There is no link between the slot club card reader, which is only recording information about the number of coins being played and the RNG (Random Number Generator) which determines the combination of symbols (or cards) that come up on the pay lines. By not using a slot club card, you are only denying yourself all the “hidden” benefits and rewards of playing—such as cash back, comps, gifts, special invitations, future room offers and more
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« Reply #101 on: August 15, 2010, 09:02:12 PM »

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« Reply #102 on: August 16, 2010, 09:42:57 PM »

Rocket that was a great post. I did think of a question though maybe someone can answer. In the article it stated that the RNG is always working even when the game is idle. Some one posted that they hit more jackpots after clearing the saferam. How does turning off the power to the machine effect  the RNG. Does the battery back up keep the RNG going? If so, is this why bally's eat batteries because of too much drain running the RNG in the background?
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« Reply #103 on: September 12, 2010, 02:37:46 PM »


so the info travels from reel chip to microprocessor on MPU  which now gives you your random number generator
those two units in simple terms working together give you the governed % percentage payout of the machine .
for the life of machine .
under normal circumstances this will let machine run at the percentage it was set at from factory or casino .
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 if the machine has RAM CLEARS all the time or every few months or each game change this is under home use not casino

-it wipes out all previous data
on main board and mother board erasing all play data and of course all the handle pulls /button hits of game play .

IF MACHINE IS RAM CLEARED OFTEN
THEN THE PAYOUT PERCENTAGE WILL NOT HOLD TRUE TO THE REEL CHIP % -

important read below

reason being is the cycle of numbers that has cycled and stored has been erased --then has to start all over again after a ram clear --this will explain why a ram clear will produce more frequent wins after its been done -

because the cycle of numbers has not grown enough>>> to follow the long term payout pattern<<< that we all have been told the %percentage of a machine is based on the life of machine not two weeks of play   ---that's why new machines in a casino may appear to be hot payouts while first installed because the RNG has not been cycled enough to fill the main board and mother board with 1/2 million pulls !!



now I am not going into the mathematical method that is used to calculate the percentage of payout at this time
because it is not in front of me --plus there are conflicting mathematical methods used I have found .


this alone will make the light bulb light up in many minds after reading this alone .

First, let me say that this has been an extremely informative thread for me.  I LOVE learning about the inside workings of these machines!  Many Thanks Rocket for this Thread!

I do however need some clarification as to how you have concluded that the EPROM chip that is located on the motherboard has anything to do with how the payback percentage of the machine is determined?

It was my understanding (And someone PLEASE CORRECT ME if I am wrong) That the EPROM chip that is located on the motherboard is there for Accounting purposes only.
I thought that the motherboard EPROM with simply a database that is used for Statistical data that could be used to check and verify the coin in to coin out statistics, but had nothing to do with the overall calculations of how the machine Wins are determined.  What I am saying is that the MPU never READS the data from the Motherboard RAM for use in determining the outcome of a game.

The way I understand it, the machine MPU uses no historical data to calculate its generated Random numbers. 

Therefor, Clearing the Motherboard RAM would have absolutely no affect on the outcome of the game.
 

 
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« Reply #104 on: September 12, 2010, 02:55:14 PM »

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« Reply #105 on: September 13, 2010, 11:34:56 AM »

That's one statement that will never be on a marquee on a casino floor... rotflmao
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