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« on: December 30, 2010, 03:54:03 PM »
I believe I have a bally 5500
S940201928
S63B3WT-10
2/94
6304/GSM-500

board number: AS-3356-201 rev E
mains ME920000-6-0  02/09/05

Had 81 error code.  I replaced battery and then placed jumper on JW10, held test and Pcoin buttons and powered up.  Held buttons for approx 15 seconds but got no display readings.  Powered off back on (hold the 2 buttons in) and I got 83F.  I powered back off and then used clear chips.  Can't get any reading on display.

I did get all 9's in display once but don't remember how.

I've tried the board in another working machine and get the same results.  

What am I doing wrong?????

Thanks
Bob
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2010, 05:15:19 PM »
I just had a all 9's on a 5500 and it was a bent pin on one of the chips. If you get stuck in a 83F loop after a clear start over and make sure that the MPU board is pushed in all of the way.  I've also had to press really hard on the PSEUDO COIN and TEST buttons, when you switching the power ON, I think they get a little sticky sometimes.

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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2010, 06:11:33 PM »
do I need to use clear chips or the JW10 jumper to perform ram clear on this slot?
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2010, 07:25:47 PM »
With the older mains you should be able to do just a JW10
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2010, 07:52:11 PM »
I put jumper on JW10
Held test and coin buttons in while turning on power
get CL C
power off
remove jumper, power onf
83F

put clear chips in
power on while holding buttons in
flashing 9's

???????????????
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2010, 10:57:16 PM »
did you get ch-c first then cl-c
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2010, 11:29:35 PM »
pretty sure I got ch-c first and the cl-c.  I've tried 2 boards with the same mains, I'm thinking I may have bad mains. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2010, 01:20:42 AM »
check all chips you had out for bent pins remove the chip to check the pins
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2010, 02:59:59 AM »
Ok,
I pulled U18 and bent 1 pin and I'm getting a 99999. Check all of your chips, pull and reinsert them.
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2010, 03:14:21 AM »
Quote from: CVslots on December 31, 2010, 02:59:59 AM
Ok,
I pulled U18 and bent 1 pin and I'm getting a 99999. Check all of your chips, pull and reinsert them.

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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2010, 03:51:29 AM »
Curiosity killed the cat, I just had to know. If it were a IGT we wouldn't be making any sacrifices.
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« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2010, 04:00:49 AM »
Quote from: CVslots on December 31, 2010, 03:51:29 AM
Curiosity killed the cat, I just had to know. If it were a IGT we wouldn't be making any sacrifices.

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« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2010, 07:26:17 AM »
I have pulled all eproms and checked for bent legs (didn't find any) then re-seated in board and got same results.  I have another board that has 1994 mains (ME920000-4-0) and U3 and4 chips that are marked SE92000-5-X.

do the mains (U18 and U20) have to have matching numbers to U3 and4 (920000)?
what is the purpose of the U3 and U4 chips??

is this a S5500 machine or a S5000 (how can I tell from mocel number?)

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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2010, 10:05:08 AM »
This was driving me crazy so I pulled the chips off the working machine I have and replaced with chips from problem machine and it cleared and worked perfectly in my machine.  Long story short it appears the board in the problem machine and the spare board I had were both bad.  Is there anyone out there that repairs these?

thanks for all the help
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« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2010, 03:18:11 PM »
Quote from: rjpohl on December 31, 2010, 07:26:17 AM

is this a S5500 machine or a S5000

Can you post a picture?  I can tell from looking at it.
Sounds like a 5500 to me
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« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2010, 08:40:20 PM »
Quote from: jdkmunch on December 31, 2010, 03:18:11 PM
Quote from: rjpohl on December 31, 2010, 07:26:17 AM

is this a S5500 machine or a S5000

Can you post a picture?  I can tell from looking at it.
Sounds like a 5500 to me

I agree. Replacing the board is probably cheaper and easier than having yours repaired.
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2010, 08:51:14 PM »
Bob U 18 and U20 are game chips
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2010, 09:36:41 PM »
Quote from: paul on December 31, 2010, 08:51:14 PM
Bob U 18 and U20 are game chips
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do the game chips have to match U3 & U4?  what are u3 and u4?
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2010, 10:03:56 PM »
No it is 3--4--12--15 
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« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2011, 12:28:06 AM »
When I replaced battery I had to let the machine stay on for half day to let the battery charge. And yes it was a new battery. Then I could clear ram.
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« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2011, 01:44:49 AM »
Quote from: junkman on January 01, 2011, 12:28:06 AM
When I replaced battery I had to let the machine stay on for half day to let the battery charge. And yes it was a new battery. Then I could clear ram.

The battery does not charge when the power is on; it is a non-rechargeable lithium battery. I'm not sure why you had to wait. Scratch Head 2
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