DBV wont function s plus (Fixed)

[stayouttadabunker]

Bunko - Not that this will help me up here in Canada but
your use of the MARS acceptor twigged me into asking the question.....

Can we get an acceptor for the S+ that will take the new
colored 5$ ? I know it was not released for the JCM platform......

I'm fascinated by the abilities of a DBV/stacker made by MEI.
The unit is extremely easy to use and has tons of dip switches
to change all kinds of settings and bill acceptance.
These babies take everything! Great for home use really!
Works on regular 115VAC which is available inside in various places in an S+.

The MEI AE2631 D7 unit I use for video games is amazingly
easy to set up for 25-liner type boards.
It's available in 2 different sized stacker cash-boxes which is very nice.
I haven't tried yet to implement one into an S+ and
I will not be surprised if it will work.
However, these were designed for flat-faced cabinet doors
and are really do not have the long duckbill bezels that
reach out into the bowels of an S+ recessed door opening.
I will look into the manual for it and see if the ID's are
compatible with the S+ platform at all.
If I could get a short sheet/list of all the possible ID's that an S+ uses -
it would be very helpful!

I noticed in the brochure they sell a "Gaming interface" for it
and on the side of one of the dips a small label designating that
dip as either a "Gaming Interface" or a Vending Interface"
depending whether the switch is on or off.
Below is a link to the DBV in a video game.>>>

http://www.meigroup.com/usa/amusement/amusement_products/bill_acceptors/ae2600/datasheet.pdf

MEI however does sell a pure slot bill acceptor and
in the brochure says that it has many ID's for different machines -
which ones though, is anybody's guess...will they work in S+'s? I don't know...
maybe some one from the gaming industry can give them a call for us and find out?
I've attached a link below to the gaming DBV they sell>>>

http://www.meigroup.com/global/americas/gaming/gaming_products/bill_acceptors/cashflow_scm/datasheet.pdf

[Jim]

not seeing your transport there are a few other things to check if you want to, or you can wait and see if the 200 head fixes your problem.
1- when the unit powers up, (this can be duplicated by unplugging the small black connector on the left side. the larger one is the information for the bill validator information that lights the door bezel. If you are concerned about damage to the 200 head you can let this unplugged until you get a replacement bezel lite.) there are two distinct cycles on the transport unit, the first is the cash can mechanical cycle, and the second lower pitched noise is the transport to bill head cycle. two distinct cycles.
2-follow the wire bundle out of the power supply (black box mounted on the side of the transport assembly) should have vents in it to run 200 head.) to the connector towards the rear of the machine (9 pin white molex) two of these provide 115vac to run the power supply, the other four go down and are plugged into J-6 on the motherboard (these are the comm. lines to and from the validator. check and make sure all is well with these.
3- last but not least the power supply has two functions, to supply 12vdc to the unit and to interface between the head and the cpu board, I have seen the interface board go bad inside the power supply  and still provide power to the unit. so this could be another area causing your problem.

Jim 

[Gusco]

not seeing your transport there are a few other things to check if you want to, or you can wait and see if the 200 head fixes your problem.

Jim 

Here is a picture of the Transport. Ill chek into the power supply when i get hime. It is vented. So should be fine for the 200. Ill check the voltages of its output and see what i get. And yes thanks for letting me know which plug to disable to not use the bezel until i repair it. I order a new MAC3030 triac for it.

[knagl]

Bunko - Not that this will help me up here in Canada but your use of the MARS acceptor twigged me into asking the question.....

Can we get an acceptor for the S+ that will take the new colored 5$ ? I know it was not released for the JCM platform......

For what it's worth, I've seen a Mars acceptor in use in a PE+ that's currently on the floor in a Las Vegas casino.

From that knowledge, I would assume two things:

- The Mars acceptor can work on an S+ as well (I think Mark (Bunker) may be able to prove that, provided the unit he has is compatible).
- The Mars acceptor likely can be programmed to accept the newest bills (I can't say that I tried a brand new 'purple' 5 in it at the casino in Vegas, but I'd imagine that they must accept them?).

[jay]

arn't the purple bills the $10 in Monoploy....

[stayouttadabunker]

The few Mars DBV's that I do have in S+'s are ZT1102's.
To find out if Mars ever made upgrades for them will require at least a
phone call from someone who works in a casino and is able to get gaming and bill acceptor support. 
Even a phone call from someone who has a DOJ in a slot legal state might be all that's needed?
I don't know the protocol... I attached MARS's phone number in an earlier post.
My guess is that these are pretty much obsolete.
I wonder if MARS will supply some really old DBV upgrade files for free for us homeowners? LOL

[Gusco]

Got the new DBV 200 and SP1271 installed and still no go with the DBV taking bills.
Still does the same thing. Powers up and cycles then does not attempt to take bills at all.
Performed a RAM clear as well. still nothing

Red lights are lit within the DBV and all wires seem to be connected properly.

fanninislots has been working on this with me. but i thought i would still keep this topic updated.
Any other input is welcome.

[stayouttadabunker]

Did you use the proper SET chip to "enable" the DBV?

[Gusco]

I used a set 15, which is what i recieved with the DBV

[Buzz]

Bunker is the BV installed properly?

[knagl]

Any other input is welcome.

It's a real long shot, but any indication that your machine spent some time in Missouri, by chance?

My first S+ was from Missouri.  They had loss limit laws in place for the state, and the short version of the story is that on the casino floor there was a device which would disable the bill validator unless a valid slot club card was inserted in the player tracking, then it would enable the validator.  They removed that device when they sold the machine, but didn't re-connect the "enable" wire on the validator.

Check to make sure that the wiring from the validator and power supply isn't cut anywhere -- in particular, the orange wire from the validator to the orange/green wire in the harness that it connects to in the S+.

Here's the thread I posted about my old validator problem, caused by the removal of the Missouri device.

[Gusco]

As far as i know it was last used at the Trump Plaza in AC. Still had the log book in it and a couple trump 50 cent tokens. Ill check the wiring over again. i couldnt find anything wrong. It did have a card unit at one time still has the Bally Mastercom in it. But everything looks disconnected. Just havent took it out yet.

[jay]

I might suggest you start with a $1 bill they are more widely accepted. You could have old code in your dbv.
So some bills might not work and its possible some of the dipswitches might be off. I know AC had a rash of cheats
right after the new $10's were introduced. People were coloring in an extra 0 with a highlighter and they were getting accepted as a 100.
There was another code change to fix this but not sure how fast it was rolled out.

Also the theme in the unit might not be the theme that was in it. So the protocol might be set wrong. 22/23 issue

[Gusco]

It is functional now!

Special thanks to Buzz for asking me if the two guide pins on the very back of the transport were properly seated.
I checked and there was a small bennd on the corner preventing it from seating correctly.
Fixed the bend and it sttarted working right away.

I bet the old DBV was probably working also. ill have to switch it again sometime and check to be sure. Atleast i got the updated DBV out of all this.

Now i dont have anything to tinker with at the moment. Maybe ill start messing with the card reader thing now.

Thanks to everyone who pitched in trying to get this resolved.

[stayouttadabunker]

Buzz! You're da MAN!
What made you think it was the way the DBV was seated?

[Buzz]

Bunker we have had this same topic at least 6 times last year, with the same results  Remember the big titted gal shooting the bow. I just looked it up, guy's name is JumpStart. It will pay to revisit that thread. And what a GREAT pic. Dan 2 posted. Besides I remember life before NLG and I had the same problem with a BV. 

[stayouttadabunker]

Oh yea! Who can forget that blue shirt...LOL
She looked liked one baaadd chick! 

[Buzz]

Mark  I think you remembered the blue shirt and forgot the content of the thread !!

[StatFreak]

Mark  I think you remembered the blue shirt and forgot the content of the thread !!

I'm worse. I saved the picture, but not the thread.

[dpalmi]

Bunker we have had this same topic at least 6 times last year, with the same results  Remember the big titted gal shooting the bow. I just looked it up, guy's name is JumpStart. It will pay to revisit that thread. And what a GREAT pic. Dan 2 posted. Besides I remember life before NLG and I had the same problem with a BV. 

Here is a link to that post..

http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4226.msg8620#msg8620

And the infamous pic...

 

Dan #2

[Buzz]

Dan I was referring to your Pic of the BV transport   it's kind of GREAT also