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« on: October 31, 2010, 06:17:55 PM »
Hallo, I'm from Itlay.....I have a triple double diamond S Plus.....
The reels runs always  and don't stop.......no candle light, no Credit and winning display, no insert coin light o coin accepted light........I've tried to turn reset key but nothing happen.....
All fuses are good
Help please.....
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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2010, 07:47:32 PM »
I would re-seat the MPU and connectors going to the mother board.

MPU is the big silver tray at the back of the machine mother board is the board at the bottom.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2010, 01:27:49 PM »
I, ve pulled out the MPU, inspected for broken or burned elements....the wire to the mother board are OK.....and the motherboard are ok (no burn or broken).....re seated the MPU but the problem is the same....no display, no candle light, and the reel runs slow with noise.......I've turned off and on the machine and now the reel are stopped....but the machine is inoperative.....no light, no display and the reset key don't work......
I think that I need a new motherboard and MPU!!!
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2010, 01:41:49 PM »
good and bad news, first the good,  we could help you get the machine running,  bad news,  you will need to do a few things to help us help you.  do you have a meter to measure voltages?, does the machine have a bill acceptor?, where is the main logic board located?  Does the denomination lamp lite? as soon as you turn on power to the machine the lamp should come on.(assuming that the bulb is good) If the bulb is good and it does not come on then that means you are not getting 7vac to it.  That usually indicates the connector coming from the lower power supply module to the motherboard is bad. ( usually brown discoloring on the connector itself) wiggle this as you watch the denomination lamp. this will establish that you are getting power to the main logic board.

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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2010, 05:57:45 PM »
Hi Jim......thanks for the answer... Smiley
My slot is a S Plus first type (year 1989), no bill acceptor...only token. The main logic board is located on the vertical left side of the machine (mother board and CPU board). If need I have a meter tester. The denomination lamp lam is working and come on when I turn on the machine......The reels often stops and re start running. Note: the reels run not in correct way but backwards.... (sorry for the english!!)...
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2010, 06:13:55 PM »
Reel tilt, is anything rubbing on the reels. wire harness or front door, light bezel??
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2010, 05:22:09 AM »
No..nothing.....the reels runs with door open.....when power off the reels moves free...
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2010, 12:30:03 PM »
the reels running backwards is normal for a S+. it will do it the first time when power is applied, and it goes through its set-up and self diagnostic tests, then the reels will stop reel #3 then reel #2, then reel #1.  then during normal game play they will stop 1-2-3. 
 can you get into the test mode by pressing the white test button?  does anything change when you close the door and secure the latch all the way down ?


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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 01:19:31 PM »
Hi Jim.......
no! I can't go into test mode......nothing happen when I press the test button or turn the reset key........and nothing change when I close the door and secure the latch bar.....the credit/winning display is off......no number..no light...
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2010, 02:06:01 PM »
Just for kicks with the door open, turn the reset key once,
then close the door and tell us what happens.
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2010, 02:13:48 PM »
nothing..... Sad
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2010, 02:25:00 PM »
Do you have a spare MPU to swap with the chips?
We need to single out the problem.
Spare boards for S+'s are not expensive at this time.
Make sure it's the same MHz  (10 or 16 MHz) as the one your using now.

Also, have you checked the 2 wires that run to the reset key-switch?
Can you verify for us with a multimeter that the key switch is operational?
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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2010, 03:13:37 PM »
Max,   one last area to check, since the denomination lamp is on then the 7vac is good, since the reels are locked in (they don't spin freely when power is applied) then the 24vac is good, the last voltage to check is +vb.  This is derived from the 8vac.  you can check the +vb on the door display board. measure across C-6 a 15 microfarad cap.  you should measure 8-10 vdc.

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« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2010, 03:50:55 PM »
Here's a photo to help you Max!  yes
Make sure you don't ground out the display board to the door panel ! lol
Click to enlarge...>>>

* Measuring for +Vb across C6 a 15 microfarad cap.jpg (57.46 KB, 1024x768 - viewed 251 times.)
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« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2010, 06:09:25 PM »
the +vb is Ok!! 10.7 V at the display board!!
thanks again
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« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2010, 06:32:28 PM »
Max, since all the voltages appear to be good  your first guess could be correct.  I would inspect all the cabinet wiring, make sure all the plugs are seated, no bent pins on the logic board, if all of these look good then I would suspect the board. did you look at all the chips that are in sockets? for proper insertion and for legs bent under neath the chip,  and lastly, look for missing components around the regulator( part with the black heat sink) the big diode in front of it.

even if nothing worked in the machine usually you can get some indication that there is some data coming from the board to the output (display), when you get nothing and all the power supply voltages are good then I would suspect the board.

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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2010, 06:57:54 PM »
Hi
I'm a very luckly boy!!! Sad Sad..............
In italy is impossible to find Motherboard or CPU board for the IGT slot.......
I' will search on Ebay USA!!!!
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2010, 08:11:46 PM »
Could battery issues cause this problem? Just asking because I'm not overly familiar with the S±
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« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2010, 09:07:17 PM »
I do not think so, if battery was low you get a 12 showing on the display.
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2010, 11:50:10 PM »
Quote from: maxvit on November 09, 2010, 06:57:54 PM
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I'm a very luckly boy!!! Sad Sad..............
In italy is impossible to find Motherboard or CPU board for the IGT slot.......
I' will search on Ebay USA!!!!

You might want to post a WTB in our classified section and let the potential vendors know where you're located. (Psst.. I know where you are, but I'll let you tell them. Tongue Out rotflmao rotflmao) One or more of them may be willing to ship to you.


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« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2010, 02:42:39 AM »
Quote from: StatFreak on November 09, 2010, 11:50:10 PM
let the potential vendors know where you're located. (Psst.. I know where you are, but I'll let you tell them.)

I'm going to guess he's in Italy.


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« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2010, 03:42:02 AM »
Quote from: StatFreak on November 09, 2010, 11:50:10 PM
Quote from: maxvit on November 09, 2010, 06:57:54 PM
Hi
I'm a very luckly boy!!! Sad Sad..............
In italy is impossible to find Motherboard or CPU board for the IGT slot.......
I' will search on Ebay USA!!!!

You might want to post a WTB in our classified section and let the potential vendors know where you're located. (Psst.. I know where you are, but I'll let you tell them. Tongue Out rotflmao rotflmao) One or more of them may be willing to ship to you.


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« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2010, 05:08:55 AM »
Serves me right for not reading it fully.  Silly Me! 

This is my third screw up today. Spank  If only I could blame it on booze. wine   Weird Eyes     Maybe I should start drinking.  drinking whiskey Cry Laughing Cry Laughing Cry Laughing

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« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2010, 05:52:42 AM »
Quote from: StatFreak on November 10, 2010, 05:08:55 AM
Serves me right for not reading it fully.  Silly Me! 

This is my third screw up today. Spank  If only I could blame it on booze. wine   Weird Eyes     Maybe I should start drinking.  drinking whiskey Cry Laughing Cry Laughing Cry Laughing

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« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2010, 09:24:35 AM »
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy.....
I've found my IGT Slot in a whareouse of a Casino Suppliers in Slovenia.......in Italy you can't find used IGT slot or other moderns Slots because the only place where you can find Slot are the casino (only 3 in Italy)......and is impossible to find suppliers of used machine Sad
In slovenia there are a lot of casino.....and a lot of suppliers Smiley
But the right thing is that in Italy modern or older slot are legal for a home use!! Smiley
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