SAS Host controller DLL. What do you want to see?

[stayouttadabunker]

I can't get this to get past the bloody error popup again : "Cannot Load the SASEGM.DLL module" thing again. ARGHHH!!!   

And it's in a bloody folder ON MY DESKTOP!!!     

Jeeshh!!!

[poppo]

I can't get this to get past the bloody error popup again : "Cannot Load the SASEGM.DLL module" thing again. ARGHHH!!!  

And it's in a bloody folder ON MY DESKTOP!!!      

Jeeshh!!!

You can try:

Go to the Run item on the Start menu, and type:

regsvr32 <path & filename of dll>

Example:
regsvr32 c:\test\SASEGM.DLL

And to repeat my earlier question, if the program actually runs, does that mean everything is ok. Or will it fail somewhere else if Dot Net Framework2 SP1 is not installed. It seems SP2 should work, no? 

[AndyP]

I can't get this to get past the bloody error popup again : "Cannot Load the SASEGM.DLL module" thing again. ARGHHH!!!   

And it's in a bloody folder ON MY DESKTOP!!!     

Jeeshh!!!

Use the shortcut in the start menu. The test app tries to load the dll from the same path as its executed from.


I think I have the ticket in stuff sussed out btw. Like I said though, have to do some real work now, but will try and get into it when I have spare time next week.

[stayouttadabunker]

Okay,
I tried it both ways...no go Houston...
Poppo's way using the "run" command box>>>    regsvr c:\test\SASEGM.DLL  gets a different error pop up box!  

AndyP's way using the shortcut in the Start column does the
other old error "Cannot find SASEGM.DLL module, blah, blah, blah"

[AndyP]

Bizzare. Something really strange is going on. Did you manage to get it going last time? IF so, what did you do?

if regsvr32 cant find the dll, then the app certainly wont.


Poppo, if the program runs that means that the dotnet 2 framework is installed. The test app will not run if its not installed.

[poppo]

Poppo's way using the "run" command box>>>    regsvr c:\test\SASEGM.DLL  gets a different error pop up box!  

  You need to use the actual path that the dll is in. The 'c:\test\SASEGM.DLL' was just an example. Of course it's not going to find it (unless you created that directory and put it there).

Try
regsvr c:\Program Files\AP\SASEGMTest\SASEGM.DLL

Assuming you installed the program in the default directory.

[stayouttadabunker]

I have no clue how the old Test App worked....
These are the programs installed on this computer.
It's a barebones desktop computer running XP solely devoted to my S2000 and S+.
Click to enlarge if needed...>>>

[AndyP]

Its possible there is some dependency issue. The dll wont load if there is a missing file. I'll check to see if I can see any obvious dependencies that are missing.

There is a tool called dependency walker, yo could try that. I just looked it up and all I can see is Kernel32.dll and MSVCR100.DLL. The former should be on your PC, the latter installed with the VC++ runtime.

[poppo]

Its possible there is some dependency issue. The dll wont load if there is a missing file. I'll check to see if I can see any obvious dependencies that are missing.

There is a tool called dependency walker, yo could try that. I just looked it up and all I can see is Kernel32.dll and MSVCR100.DLL. The former should be on your PC, the latter installed with the VC++ runtime.

FWIW, I installed this last version for the first time (i.e. did not install previous versions) and it runs. I also did let it install the Dot NET Framework 4 Client since I figured it was supposed to.

I guess the question is - has anyone else updated over an older version and NOT had a problem.

[AndyP]

regsrv32 wont work btw, as I have not defined any entrypoints for it. However it should still give you some indication (ie it will load but wont register or something like that).

I might add those calls in to allow it to be registered.

[poppo]

regsrv32 wont work btw, as I have not defined any entrypoints for it. However it should still give you some indication (ie it will load but wont register or something like that).

I might add those calls in to allow it to be registered.

Oh. I thought that by manually registering it, it just forced Windows to know where to look for it. Since he got the other error that it could not find it in the non-existent c:\test directory, it appeared that it was at least looking for it there.

[AndyP]

I highly recommend dependency walker (its free). Use it an open up the dll. It will report any errors. Do this and put the results up here.

[AndyP]

Actually, I think I can see the problem. I think I lied earlier on about vc version dependencies. The c runtime version is actually version 10. The dll in question is MSVCR100.dll. This dll should be in the c:\windows\system32 directory. If its not, that may be the problem. I doubt this version is included in the redistributable (probably MSVCR90.dll only) . ITs odd that it works for a majority of people though.


I have only just started using visual studio 2010 and I am finding some serious bugs in it. It also defaults to use things I dont want it to use.

[stayouttadabunker]

Will you stop lying! lol  
Anyways,
I downloaded the DW program and it shows that I don't have it...
So you're saying I need the 2010 version of VCR++?  
Click on picture to enlarge if you need glasses...lol   >>>

[poppo]

ITs odd that it works for a majority of people though.

Probably because he does not have much loaded on that machine. Most people probably installed something else that put it on theirs.

[AndyP]

Will you stop lying! lol 
Anyways,
I downloaded the DW program and it shows that I don't have it...
So you're saying I need the 2010 version of VCR++?   
Click on picture to enlarge if you need glasses...lol   >>>

Ok, yup that is the problem. My bad. Turns out you need version 10 of the visual c runtime. I dont think that would be included in the redistributable from MS.

TRy this: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=a7b7a05e-6de6-4d3a-a423-37bf0912db84

Visual Studio 2010 is really starting to piss me off, I can assure you.

[stayouttadabunker]

I installed Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime 2010 version.
I then ran the Dependency Walker program typing in SASEGM.DLL and it located the newly installed MSVCR100 file.
I am going to try the TEST APP again and see if the module is "found"...>>>

[stayouttadabunker]

Well...whaddaya know?!?!?!?! 
No errors popped up!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wheeeee!!!!!!!!!
I'm going hook it up now....

[AndyP]

Yay for dependency walker!! Another problem solved!

[stayouttadabunker]

lol...well partly...check this out...
For some reason, I'm stuck on :    "01:"

No other lines showing...

"Uhhh...Houston...what is zero one colon???   
It's not in the checklist"     >>>


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/1UB5HI-6JQw&rel=0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/1UB5HI-6JQw&rel=0</a>

[knagl]

I think I have the ticket in stuff sussed out btw. Like I said though, have to do some real work now, but will try and get into it when I have spare time next week.

About all I can do right now is cheerleed from the sidlines, but that's great news, and thanks for all you've done so far.  We look forward to your continued efforts when you have more free time in the future. 

[Foster]

I got comm between pc and S+ as well Builing my own interface with Max232

Thanks poppo for a clear schematic 

I built mine with parts from unusable cham II (Not a + or SA version)
I substituted a 74HC04 (it is also a hex inverter)
You do need the hex inverter to make it work.
I also installed 1K ohm Pull up resisters, it works with and without them (I test built it on a solderless breadboard.)
I will build a soldered version this weekend.

[AndyP]

lol...well partly...check this out...
For some reason, I'm stuck on :    "01:"

No other lines showing...

Uhhh...Houston...what is zero one colon???      >>>

http://www.youtube.com/v/1UB5HI-6JQw?fs=1&amp;hl=en_US

You are a good tester!!.

The excpetions are printed as a 2digit hex value, followed by a text description. 01 is not a valid exception code. However, if your poll address is set to 01, then perhpas what you are seeing is the machine chirping. I dont handle chirps just yet, but basically they are sent when the machine is not being polled. Maybe check the transmit lines from the PC to the machine. Obvioulsy you are receiving data, but the machine is not seeing anything.

Some machines have a protocol analyser, if your machine has that in the service menu's maybe give that a try. It looks like your machine is a stepper, so might not offer that option.

[poppo]

Thanks poppo for a clear schematic  

Just to clarify for others that the schematic I sent him was slightly different than the one I posted earlier in this thread, and eliminates the opto-coupler.

[StatFreak]

Thanks poppo for a clear schematic  

Just to clarify for others that the schematic I sent him was slightly different than the one I posted earlier in this thread, and eliminates the opto-coupler.

Could you post it for everyone's benefit?