Bill Validator Problem

[teeder27]

I have a Bally's ProSlot 6000, Bouns Frenzy upright slot machine.  Ever since I have gotten it, the bill validator has not worked, and thus causes an error code on the machine, not allowing me to use it.  I bought a different validator (SAME EXACT MODEL), but when placed in my machine, my machine will power it on, but I get red flashing LED's in the mouth of the validator.  I did download the users manual for the validator, and the flashing LED's seem to indicate to me that the validator is not communicating with the slot machine itself.  I am assuming that it has a version of software installed on it that is not compatible with my machine.  Any idea how I would find out what software my slot machine has on it and how I would go about programming/getting my validator programmed to my machine?  

I appologize in advance for the noobie questions- this is my FIRST experience with a real slot machine.  (I've had a Japaneese Pachislo machine for a couple of years, but have since sold it, once acquiring this machine in trade for an iPhone on Craigslist- clearly I got the better end of the deal.)  This 1 machine will probably open up the possibility of me acquiring more and building up my own "Casino" at home.  I'm definatley glad that I found this great site full of knowledge.  

Thanks again for any help/assistance you may be able to provide.  I can get pics upon request, to try and figure out what I may or may not have.  

Here's a pic of what I have- its in resonably good condition, except for the silver veneer on the sides, which is scratched up, but oh well...

(This pic was taken IMMEDIATLEY after powering up, before the machine realized that the bill validator is messed up.)

[Ozzy]

Check your dip switch setting are in accordance with the BV type.


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[teeder27]

Thanks for the input.  I neglected to include all information that I should have in the original post. 

All DIP switches are in the proper positions.

The original bill validator, which has a bunch of broken belts in it, when installed in the machine, will allow the machine to operate properly but the validator does not work at all.  When I place the new bill validator (same model) in my machine, it rejects it, even though it is the same exact model. That makes me think that it doesn't have the right software on it.  The bill validator that is in my machine is by Mars Electronics. 

If I could find belts for my validator, I'd be fine, but the belts that I need are only sold in quantities of 100, of which I only need 2.  For 100 belts, it is over $800, cost prohibitive. 

That is why I'd like to figure out how to get the proper software installed on my validator, so that it can be more functional.

I know that I could somehow make it so that it does not take $$ in order to play games on it, but I don't want to do that. 

[Firebird]

Sounds to me like the bill validator you bought has the wrong software for your machine. What model bill validator do you have?

[teeder27]

Sounds to me like the bill validator you bought has the wrong software for your machine. What model bill validator do you have?

Its a "Mars Electronics- Model ZT 1202" 

When looking for a replacement, I found some on this site for sale, so I purchased one, which came DOA, so it was replaced right away.  The new one powers up, but the mouth of the validator flashes as if there is an error in communicating with the machine. 

My problem is that I don't know how to find out what software my machine has on it, or how to tell what the validator has installed on it. 

I'm trying to learn, but there is so much to know about these machines, that I have to start somewhere.

[teeder27]

Validator Pictures- Sorry for the poor quality- was using a friend's phone because my phone bricked itself this afternoon.

[teeder27]

More pictures...

I'm assuming that the "Pulse 1.32" is the version of software that is on that particular validator- I'm not 100% sure what is on mine, because there are quite a few stickers on it, none of which seem to indicate a software version, and the keys for it are laying at a friends house. 

[TZtech]

Hi  Never worked on this model before but there's a manual here
http://slot-tech.com/interesting_stuff/mei/

I tlooks like yours is the flash programmable one. Maybe one of the vendors can assist who has the equipment required to re flash it.
You will need to find the download SW as well as the correct firmware to upload to the BV.
The other option is to transplant the processor board from the communicating but missing belts BV to the new BV.

Ian

[ChizzleMonkey]

I know this is an old post, but so is that slot machine. I had a similar problem with one of those Bally's. I tried multiple bill validators, cash cans and power cycles with no success. The problem was right in front of me everytime I opened the main door! Open the door, look at where the main board is, can you see the small button labelled TEST? To the right of that is a hidden switch. It's under that piece of metal that you would assume would be a great place to put your finger under to pull out the board. That switch is labelled COIN MECH. If it is in the downwards position, it disables the bill validator too. If you find yours in the downward position, flip it back up with a small screwdriver, then close the door. If it still doesn't work, try to shut it off and back on. It worked for me :-)

[teeder27]

I know this is an old post, but so is that slot machine. I had a similar problem with one of those Bally's. I tried multiple bill validators, cash cans and power cycles with no success. The problem was right in front of me everytime I opened the main door! Open the door, look at where the main board is, can you see the small button labelled TEST? To the right of that is a hidden switch. It's under that piece of metal that you would assume would be a great place to put your finger under to pull out the board. That switch is labelled COIN MECH. If it is in the downwards position, it disables the bill validator too. If you find yours in the downward position, flip it back up with a small screwdriver, then close the door. If it still doesn't work, try to shut it off and back on. It worked for me :-)

Thanks for the tip.  I know the machine is a 2002, as the plaque on the side of it indicates.  I didn't pay a penny for it, traded it on craigslist for a broken cell phone that I had listed online and it's owner didn't have room for it anymore (or didn't want it because the bill validator deemed it inoperable.)  I pulled some broken belts out of the original validator that came with it and now it seems to be working properly.  I will, in the future, be trying to figure out how to load the proper eprom onto the other validator that I purchased from a member on this site so that it will work, but that will be in the future.  I need to learn a lot about this machine before trying to do anything with it. 

[proten]

Here is the manual for it.

[ChizzleMonkey]

You got that in trade for a broken cell phone? Talk about hitting the jackpot! These old Bally's are disappearing from casino floors at a fast pace. It's pretty rare to find one in a casino these days, especially the older 5500's. Congrats on getting it to work again! The one I worked on was an 04 model, if I can remember right, and it had a JCM WBA bill validator in it. The cabinet in your pics looks almost  identical to the one i worked on but it was converted into a tito machine. Check out the link for a manual for your machine and some other "interesting stuff" about the S6000's.

http://slot-tech.com/interesting_stuff/bally/Bally%20S6000/

[teeder27]

You got that in trade for a broken cell phone? Talk about hitting the jackpot! These old Bally's are disappearing from casino floors at a fast pace. It's pretty rare to find one in a casino these days, especially the older 5500's. Congrats on getting it to work again! The one I worked on was an 04 model, if I can remember right, and it had a JCM WBA bill validator in it. The cabinet in your pics looks almost  identical to the one i worked on but it was converted into a tito machine. Check out the link for a manual for your machine and some other "interesting stuff" about the S6000's.

http://slot-tech.com/interesting_stuff/bally/Bally%20S6000/

Thanks for the link.  I'll check it out and see what else I can learn. 

I had a 4 year old, broken Verizon phone on Craigslist, because I had no use for it.  Someone emailed me and asked me if I'd trade for it, which usually I say no.  This time however, I asked what he had to trade- said a broken pinball machine, or a bally's slot machine.  I asked for pics of the slot machine and he sent them over.  The next day, he was at my house, with it in the back of his truck, delivered to my front door, from a city which is an hour away.  He helped me carry it in the house and put it where I wanted it.  He apparently got it in trade for an old John Deere riding lawn mower he was trying to get rid of.  He said he plugged it in one time and ran some quarters through it but was not interested in it, so I now have it and won't be selling it. 

After he left and I started playing around with it is when I figured out the validator didn't work, but pulled things apart and slowly but surely got it working again.  I'd like to get another one- it was a fun project to get this one working again, however even non working ones listed on CL here are $800+. 

[ChizzleMonkey]

It's not easy to learn from the manuals. If you want a game history, turn your key once and hit the change button until you see .3 in the "credit in" display/window. It will roll through the combinations won/lost from the latest through the furthest. Since you have a bill validator enabled, you should turn your key once and hit the change button until you see .6, then you can see the last bills accepted. There are tests with the TEST button too! Good luck!