NO POWER TO 663 DIPLAY

[vegasbaby]

HI
I just completed my 3 reel to 5 reel conversion.After doing a clear 3 times,i reinstalled my base chip,powered back up.But now for some reason i get no power to the 663 display or winner paid,credits bet,total bet windows,lines played and ect.I know picture would help you help me in trouble shooting this issue,but cant post intill am.Is there one main area to look at to solve this problem?Pictures will be posted in am.Thanks mark

[Buzz]

I've heard of a clear and key being done two different ways. I do a clear, then install the key chip and then go to the base chip. ( It works for me )  If you try this sequence, after you install the key chip and power up you should see netplex down on the left display. If you don't see it, check the ribbon cable that goes to that display It's right next to the hinge. All so make sure the door IO board is fully seated. If you still see nothing all kinds of things could be wrong,  I would first make sure you have all the new eproms installed properly, meaning the notch in the right direction and all eproms in the right holder. Make sure no legs are bent under. Which key chip are you using ??

I've did a lot of clears and keys on S 2000 and I don't remember ever looking at the right hand display to see if it's working or not. I would think not but I'm just not sure.

[vegasbaby]

Hi
Here the pictures i promised,maybe this will help.Dose everything look hooked up properly?As alot of new parts went into this conversion.And i didn't have another 5 reel to use as a sample,each step along the way i have used the forum to make  sure all is good.But this  6-6-3 display that's just blank after doing a clear.Since my id tag plate states my s2000 is dated in the 12 month of 2003 I'm using clear chip #224 and key 31.Clear went fine as i was using Jim's  Better Slots print instructions off the forum.As for instructions it states to re install base chip and power back up and wait for displat to read testing memory.But display is not reading anything.From the pictures can you tell if i have all items hooked up correctly.And if i do where to go from here?

Thanks

[Foster]

is there power to the denom panel?

[vegasbaby]

HI
That dose not lite up,all the displays dont lite.

[Foster]

check to see you have fuses on the motherboard or back plane.

[cowboygames]

All the plugs look right. Wish I knew which wires to tell you to look at to check voltages, but I don't. Might check to make sure your IO boards are seated well and maybe unplug your coins per line LED board to see if it makes a difference. Turn machine off first though

[blueridgeslots]

You are missing a jumper harness between the line display and I/O it appears to me, eliminate the line display for now and plug the molex you have going to it into the inside I/O card, btw you can't use the old I/O that was in the single row button deck, and for the sake of god would everybody quit telling people you need to use a clear chip, it is not needed unless you are setting an accounting denom lower or reconfiguring a game that had a system hooked up and then removed, for games that were working in your eyes and hands before you F****ked with it, just fix the mess you caused

[stayouttadabunker]

If he has the correct I/O board - could it be that he
needs to change the settings from 5-5-2 to 6-6-3 in the Options?
That would require a keychip to do right?

If I'm wrong - please don't yell at me?
Thanks!

[vegasbaby]

Hi
The first pictures i posted yes didn't have the jumper harness installed to line display,But it is now installed with same results displays wont lite up.I'm going to post some clear pictures on Thursday am,Maybe some one might spot something out of place in the cabinet wiring.In regards to the clear chip,Jimare you saying in my case i shouldn't of used the clear? as i will need to set the denom for this new game 3 reel to 5 reel conversion.Also one last thing i just discovered was when the power is on,and i remove reel #1 reels #2 through 5 lite up and stay lit.Is that normal ?THANKS FOR YOUR HELP,IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE MY WORK CUT OUT FOR ME IN SOLVEING THESE PROBLEMS.

[stayouttadabunker]

It is NOT recommended to install or remove anything in an S2000 with the power "ON".  


May I ask, did someone TELL you to do this?                         Blue!  

That's kind of like trying to change your wipers with new ones while they're swishing back and forth
and little rotten Johnny is in the front seat holding down the squirt button....

[Bettor Slots]

First off...I'm going to suggest you do a full clear with a 224          JK

Seems to me your just missing the harness connection as Jim Blue pointed out.... "starred" in the picture below.

[vegasbaby]

HI JIM
Made the connection that you and Jim at Blue ridge suggested,and then did the 224 clear.Still i have the same results no display.Only signs of power is on back side of lines played board is a tiny green lite that's lit.I'm send some pictures of some of the wiring from inside of the cabinet,Maybe someone can spot something out of place or not connected.Please excuse the amount of loose wiring,as some of the plastic ties had to be removed to make the conversion happen,they will get re wrapped when i get the machine up and running.Thanks for your help.
Mark

[vegasbaby]

More pictures

[stayouttadabunker]

Right behind this vertical harness outlined with my yellow rectangular box is a vertical black Molex header that powers up your VFD display.
If there's nothing plugged into it - that could be why you're not getting the VFD to light up...

[Bettor Slots]

JK = Just kidding....224 was not necessary but did not hurt anything either...like Jim Blue said. 

When you first power on...look at the the display, does it at least light up for a moment and say "Display Self Test Passes" or something like that before it goes blank?

[vegasbaby]

Jim
It dose not display any self test message.But in bunkers last post he states i might not have pluged in that would connect under the pile of wires,is the plug that showing the source of my problems.

[Bettor Slots]

that plug is for a light box and is not used.  You have things plugged in correctly and like Jim B mentioned above...you have something plugged in the wrong spot at the mother board likely.

[Bettor Slots]

OR

- your display is bad

- your motherboard is bad

- you have a short in one of the harnesses

- your main board is bad

[Railroad94]

Hard to see in the pics but is yours wired up like this now.

[vegasbaby]

Thanks for the response to this major head ache i have on going.I'm still at work.But when i get home i will compare your wiring to my wiring.And re post.
THANKS MARK

[stayouttadabunker]

It looks like RR94 has the 5-pin green ones going in on the bottom right
and a 2-pin red & black pair of wires going into the VFD just above the green ones.

[vegasbaby]

HI ALL
I'm back at it.After comparing railroads picture,it dose look like i had the rev a set of wires going to the back pull out not to the front as railroad has them,so i reversed them and powered back up,still same results no display.When power was still on i look down the front black pull out where the rev a cable mounts,its not lighting up.The back one behind the front one shows lights that are on.I don't know what this part is called.So if the front one dose not light from inside,is it bad?for test purposes only can i swap the front one for the back one?
THANKS MARK

[cowboygames]

Yep, those are a matched set of boards and interchangeable, 7802s they should be. That little plug going to the VFD display with the red and black wires I would guess is your power lead to the display, but you're not getting any power indication on the credit display either are you? The VFD display and the 663 LED display use different power plugs, but I don't know if it comes off the same source from the IO board

[vegasbaby]

Hi
I just reversed the boards and the front one that would not lite,lites up when i moved it to the back.So is that telling me i have a bad cable up front?