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« on: June 24, 2011, 03:48:50 AM »

I am the proud new owner of a IGT "Triple Play" progressive slot machine. It was working at one time till someone hit the Mega sending the machine into lockdown until clearing. That's when the fun began. Someomne tried changing the reset switch, didn't work. Not sure how to wire the switch since there are 2 wires with larger clips than the 3 tabs on the back of the switch. All in all I think the fix is easy I'm just afraid to fry a board.
I would like to completely restore this machine to full operation, including bill changer. I just need to know where I can buy parts and manuals. Thanks.........


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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2011, 03:51:21 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2011, 08:10:16 AM »

NLG Welcome  joek4411 wave

 Congratulations on buying your first machine!!  applause applause   Remember not to leave it alone in the dark; it will multiply.  bunny2  And once you leave two of them alone together, you'll quickly end up with a room full.  rotflmao rotflmao


If the machine is still in a jackpot lockup tilt, then each time the machine is turned on with the door/lid closed, it will respin to the jackpot symbols, the speaker will sound a continuous "dit-dit dit-dit..." and both lights on the candle will blink slowly in unison. If that's the case, you only need to touch those two wires together while in jackpot mode with the door/lid CLOSED, and you'll clear it and reset the machine for play.

It's odd that your jackpot reset switch has three tabs. A standard switch should have only two.  Scratch Head

 Please Post Pictures of the switch.

Your award glass does say "progressive", but you don't have a progressive unit on the machine or a window in the award glass for a stand alone unit. It was most likely tied into a bank of machines on a single progressive, with a large overhead sign displaying the progressive amount. Without a progressive unit attached, the machine will pay out the standard award for the top prize with a max bet. For your machine, that will be 12,000 coins.

If you really want to add a progressive unit, we'll be able to help you with that down the road. For now, let's get the machine up and running.


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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2011, 08:14:20 AM »

P.S. I split out your posts and moved them to the S+ board.

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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2011, 08:55:05 AM »

The switch you have is not correct, but still may work.
If you look closely, the tabs should be marked C, NO, and NC. Common, Normally Open, and Normally Closed.
You want the wires plugged onto C and NO.
You will be able to get the correct switch from someone here, or on ebay.

If you still have a problem, we need more information.
What the lights on the tower are doing. Steady? Flashing?
What is displayed in the "Winner Payed" and "Credits" windows.

Congrat's on your first slot!!!

My "first", (see warning from Stat above), was also a slant top.
Adding a BV is fairly easy.
For some reason, few people want a slant top, (big, clunky), but for that reason, the game kits, (themes), are cheap.
I've got a couple dozen kits that I swap out often.

Lets get your machine up and running.

You've come to the right place!!!


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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2011, 03:53:59 PM »

Ok, game is locked and lights are flashing as if the game attendent is going to come up and reset the machine. The reset is not hooked up and I believe thats all I need to do is make sure it's the right reset and wired correctly, see pictures.... Thanks everyone for your help!!!!!! First picture is the new reset  that is not wired, 3 tabs switch, the 2nd photo is the old reset with 3 tabs, is it the right switch and how do I wiere it??????


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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2011, 09:20:11 PM »

No, that's not the right switch, although as Ed posted you may be able to get it to work.  (Do you have the key for it?  If not, just forget it all together.)  Someone here likely can send you the right switch (or for sure you should be able to buy one from one of the vendors here for a nominal price), but for now I'd just route the wires through the hole where the switch was, and close the lid. 

When the machine is making it's "dink dink dink dink dink dink dink" noise and the candle (light tower on top of the machine) is flashing, touch the two wires together once for just a second or so and then disconnect (un-touch) them (you may need to cram a paperclip into one of them to actually get the metal to touch).  The noise should stop, and the machine should be ready to play again.

Edited to add: Okay, I see now that perhaps you added in a new switch?  If you have a voltmeter, set it to do a continuity check, and test the metal posts from the new switch.  You want to have momentary continuity only when the keyswitch is turned, and no continuity when the switch is in its resting (idle) position.  If you're able to determine which two terminals on the switch will accomplish that, you can hook up the wires to those terminals (it won't matter which order) and then the new keyswitch should work.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2011, 10:01:23 PM »

Thanks for the help, will try it this week-end. Can anyone tell me where I can get a manual, service or training for this machine?
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2011, 02:26:40 AM »

Next step, checked the switch and conected to the right terminals, turned on the machine-all that happens when the machine is on is the tree at the top flashes, No sound, reset the machine with switch and nothing, May not have the right wires but there are no other loose wires around the switch. There are 2 jacks not plugged in at the bottom but no coresponding connectors with in reach.
Can someone tell me who fixes these machines in north San Diego?
What kind of machine is this?
Where can I get a manual?
Thanks.....
I'm usally pretty good at fixing things but this is driving me crazy....
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2011, 02:39:13 AM »

Next step, checked the switch and conected to the right terminals, turned on the machine-all that happens when the machine is on is the tree at the top flashes, No sound, reset the machine with switch and nothing,
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Hold on. You posted earlier that ..

Ok, game is locked and lights are flashing as if the game attendent is going to come up and reset the machine. ...


If you connected the wires, it would be normal for the machine to be silenced, and depending on which SP (game) chip you have installed, it might also be completely normal for the candle lights to be flashing -- because that's the message to the casino that the door has been opened (and security compromised). If the machine is operating normally, it will go away after the door is closed and one complete game is played

Have you tried dropping a coin into the machine, or inserting a bill?
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2011, 02:51:16 AM »

Treid reseting and dropping coins in and nothing. Tree still flashes and the display reads : Insert your card" Welcome to the Flamingo Hilton.... Made contact with both wires on the switch and still nothing.
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2011, 02:55:50 AM »

Displays:
Winner Paid and Credits are blank and the Change button is flashing as well.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2011, 03:24:17 AM »

Check the flashing lights.


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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2011, 03:51:39 AM »

...the Change button is flashing as well.

That's odd. The S+ doesn't HAVE a light in the change button. Scratch Head At least, not in the uprights. There isn't even wiring for it. Scratch Head

Follow the guide that edski posted and let us know. For giggles, try pressing the change button to see if it (and the candle) will go out.

Displays:
Winner Paid and Credits are blank
....

What is displayed in coins played?
When you close the door, does the "insert coins" lamp come on? 
Do the displays or any lights change when the door is opened vs. closed?
When you power up the machine, do the reels stiffen?
If they do, do they perform their maiden spin during the boot diagnostic?
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2011, 07:30:25 AM »

Pictures posted are of a Slant Top and it does have the wiring in place for a lamp in change/service player button
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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2011, 08:22:24 AM »

Pictures posted are of a Slant Top and it does have the wiring in place for a lamp in change/service player button

Thanks Foster. I figured someone would correct me if slant tops had the wiring. wave
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2011, 03:59:47 PM »

Displays- Coins- "0"
Insert Coins- there is no Insert Coins
Change- Flashing
Reels stiffin- yes but only when I switch the power switch inside the machine, unplugging the machine dosn't do anythig to the reels
What is a "Boot Diagnostics" The "Self Test" button inside dosn't do anything.
The tree flashing is-
Top- slow
bottom Fast- indidcating hand pay or bottom drawer open. Both doors are closed and switches are in place.
I get 9.40 volts across the terminals on the reset switch when I turn the key.
Are there supose to be any "Unconnected plugs or wires" anywhere in this machine? There are a few but I can't find any corresponding jacks within reach of any loose wires.


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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2011, 04:02:03 PM »

I live in Oceanside, CA just in case anyone is close by. Or is there somewhere I can bring this to.
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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2011, 05:30:34 AM »

Answers and questions.

You have an IGT S+ Slant Top machine.

Yes there are some extra wires for options, but they may not be the ones you are referring too.
Some photos will help identify them.

There are several IGT Reset switches available on Ebay. Just search IGT Reset.

Cheapest was 7.99 +shipping.
http://cgi.ebay.com/IGT-Reset-Lock-Keys-/280700185184?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415b08ea60

You said you get voltage across the terminals on the reset switch when you turn the key, that is incorrect.
If you are gong to check the switch with power on, you should have zero when the switch is turned.
You should do what knagl suggested, with no wires attached to the switch.

I've duplicated part of your problem on my machine.
Nothing displayed in the Winner Payed and Credits, with 0 in Coins Played means the machine is sensing a door open.

There are 5 switches/sensors on a slant top for "Door Open".
Switches are on the Top Lid, Middle door, Bottom "Drop" door, and the Bill Validator.
There is also a "Photo Eye" on the top lid.
All of these need to be made to clear this error.


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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2011, 05:31:35 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2011, 05:52:02 AM »

Thanks edski. applause  That's why I asked him what was displayed in the coins in window, whether or not the "insert coins" lamp came on after the door was closed, and if he saw any display changes when the door was closed. yes


joek4411, you won't be able to clear the jackpot tilt (if you still have one) until the door open issue is resolved.

I had also asked you if the reels did a maiden spin* upon power up, but didn't really get a response. They should perform that spin even if the machine is in a tilt or jackpot condition or if the doors remain open, so if not, then there will be more issues to resolve once you get the doors to show as closed.


<ADD> * What I mean is that, when you first power up the machine, the reels should stiffen, then the machine should take 15-30 seconds to do an internal diagnostic/firmware boot, and should finally spin the reels once and place them in the last position they were in when the machine was previously powered, or into the "home" position on the seams if a clear or game change had just been performed.
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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2011, 01:27:56 AM »

Thanks for the help!!!!! Will try to resolve the door issues and the reset. Sorry I don't mean to seem like an idiot ...
To answer your question about the reels. When I turn on the slot the reels stiffen and thats all the machine does. No noise no boot up no pass go no $200-Straight to Jail.
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« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2011, 11:11:58 PM »

OK, found the swithes at the:
Bill V
Top
Bottom drawer
No photo cell at the top
Brass connectors
Ran the wires for the reset out of the machine, turned on the machine and touched the wires and nothing. Everything else is still the same.
Thats all the switches I could find.
What next?
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2011, 12:25:05 AM »

Couple of questions. Do you have the large lower front door installed on the machine ?? If not the main door latch prevents the door optics from seeing each other.  Take a look at  edski  pic. #IR1 (main door latch) the top center peice of that latch rotates ( I think CW ) to remove the lower door, when the lower door is put back on  this peice must rotate back to to exact postion like the picture.
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