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« on: July 18, 2011, 05:24:08 PM »

Hello Everyone!

New to the forum here and I am not a tech but fairly handy with computers and such.

My father in-law recently passed away and he was a car dealer and we recently found out that he had recieved a Bally "Diamond Line Frenzy" slot machine on a trade in we think at his lot.

So long story short I'm trying to help my Mother in-law get this game going so I will be reading here and learning how to get it running. She has used a local business to get it working but the guy has been here 4 times trying to clear the game and get it going and has not accomplished anything yet but he has charged her for each trip and for the clear chip so she has already forked out over $400 dollars for nothing!

The Model number on the machine is S62B3WBP0 and it is a Diamond Line Frenzy

So any advise will be greatly appreciated. I have just started to look at this and don't even know what codes it may be throwing but I will be looking into it right away.

Which section should I be posting questions in to make sure I am in the right place, it looks like from what I can tell to go under - Reel Slots- Bally Reel Games. Is this correct?

Also I went to the Bally site to get a Manual for this game but found out that I didn't have access to download a manual.  Is is possible to get a digital copy somewhere for this game?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Clutch

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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 05:31:20 PM »

 NLG Welcome

Reel Slots- Bally Reel Games. Is this correct?  Right place.  Pictures of game & parts always help.
 Please Post Pictures
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 05:38:17 PM »

If your email will take big file there is a manual coming. It's takes some time to download. It should be coming
in about 15 min.
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2011, 06:04:37 PM »

If you don't receive manual let me know & I'll resend after 5. I'm having problems w/my internet.
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2011, 06:31:44 PM »

Thanks Ford got the email but it came over in plain text not as a pdf.

I am getting a "5500" code on the front of the machine when I turn it on.

When I turn the machine on the wheels all spin one turn and then the 5500 code comes up.........

What now?

Thanks,
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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2011, 06:43:15 PM »

check 55

Code Description Definition
20 Coin In Jam The optics on the coin optic decoder
board have been blocked for too long.
21 Inappropriate Coin In
A coin has been accepted by the machine
after the maximum number of
extra coins wagered have been registered.
Extra coins up to the maximum
(currently 15) are paid from the hopper
upon completion of the game.
22 Invalid Coin A coin has passed the coin optics during
a reel spin.
23 Coin Not Sensed Coin was not sensed by the drop optic
(DS2-8=OFF Diverter Optic Installed)
24 Coin Reverse A coin was sensed traveling from bottom
to top of the optic block.
50-261 Bill Paused
A bill was detained from entering the
bill acceptor stacker within the normal
time.
50-271 Bill Jam A bill was prevented from entering the
stacker.
50-291 Bill Acceptor Communication
Error
Communication between the bill acceptor
and the machine has failed.
30 Hopper Overpay
More coins than expected have been
sensed by the hopper's coin-out optic
during a payout.
31 Hopper Coin-Out
Jam
The hopper's coin-out optic has been
blocked too long (see Troubleshooting,
Hopper LED Error Codes).
32 Hopper Empty
The hopper circuitry has run in forward
direction for longer than 15 seconds with
no coins sensed by the coin-out optic.
33 Reset During Payout A system reset has occurred while the
hopper was running.
5x-361 Printer Failure General Printer Failure
5x-371 Printer Jammed The printer is jammed at the platen.
5x-381 Printer Empty The printer is out of paper.
5x-391 Printer Low3 The paper sensor has detected a low
paper condition.
40 Reel Initialization
Error
The reels were unable to complete initialization
after a system reset.
41 Reel #1 Improper
Spin
The reel did not spin to the expected
position.
42 Reel #2 Improper
Spin
The reel did not spin to the expected
position.
43 Reel #3 Improper
Spin
The reel did not spin to the expected
position.
44 Reel #4 Improper
Spin
The reel did not spin to the expected
position.
45 Reel #5 Improper
Spin
The reel did not spin to the expected
position.
50 Slot Door Open The main door switch senses the door
is open.
51 Belly Door Open The belly door switch senses the door
is open.
52 Bill Acceptor Stacker
Access
The stacker access switch senses the
door is open.
53 Lower Door Open
(Slant)
The lower door switch senses the door
is open.
54 Drop Door Open The drop door switch senses the door
is open.
55 Bill Acceptor Stacker
Removed
Signal received from the bill acceptor
that there is no stacker.
|| 564 Logic Door Access The MPU board is removed or not
seated correctly.
|| 574 System (sView/Tahoe)
Door Access The sView door is open.
|| 584 Latched Door Detector
Board
The battery is low for the latched (Main,
Logic, System, and Cashbox doors)
input circuit.
60 Reset During Bill
Change
A system reset has occurred during a
bill transaction.
65 Mechanical Meter
Disconnect
The electromechanical meters are disconnected
from the machine (Market
Codes 3, 4, 12, 28, and 29).
Malfunction and Game Codes
Code Description Definition
70 Door Open During
Reel Spin
Any of the door switches have sensed a
door open during a reel spin.
71 Reel #1 Movement The reel moved at an inappropriate time.
72 Reel #2 Movement The reel moved at an inappropriate time.
73 Reel #3 Movement The reel moved at an inappropriate time.
74 Reel #4 Movement The reel moved at an inappropriate time.
75 Reel #5 Movement The reel moved at an inappropriate time.
77
Secondary Device
Communication Fault
During Game/Topbox
Wheel Feature Tilt
Topbox tilt condition has occurred in
the Monte Carlo and Lucky Wheel
machines.
802 ROM Checksum
Error
The checksum of the Main program
(U12, U15, U3, U4), or the Personality
(U20, U18) does not match the
expected checksum.
812 Battery Low SafeRAMâ„¢ battery is below 2.2 VDC.
82 Door Open with
Power OFF
The machine door was opened while
the main power was OFF (requires
JW11 in).
832 SafeRAMâ„¢ Error SafeRAMâ„¢ failed to retain information
during self-test.
83F-0 Invalid SafeRAMâ„¢
EPROM
Wrong EPROM's used for SafeRAMâ„¢
Clear.
83F-1 Invalid Main EPROM Wrong Main EPROM's detected after
SafeRAMâ„¢ Clear.
83F-2 Invalid Personality
EPROM
Incompatible Personality EPROM's detected
after SafeRAMâ„¢ Clear.
83F-3 Invalid Coin Denomination
Coin denomination not supported in
Market Code.
842 RAM Error Volatile RAM failed to retain information
during a self-test.
85 MPU Removed with
Power OFF
The MPU board assembly was disconnected
from the backplane while
power was OFF (requires JW15 and
JW21 in).
88 Catastrophic Failure
The MPU board has failed for an unknown
reason (if SafeRAMâ„¢ Clear
does not resolve error code, replace
MPU board).
89 Cashout to Host Error
Cashout to host fails with AFT enabled
and cashout to Host set to Hard. Open
and close door to clear error code.
90 Display Error
The controller for the LED message
center or vacuum fluorescent display
has failed.
91 Communication Error
The machine is expecting and not receiving
serial communication from the
progressive controller (refer to Troubleshooting,
Communication Errors). The
machine will not tilt, and requires a
SafeRAMâ„¢ clear to resume operation
if the door is opened before releasing
progressive win lockup.
91-0 No Communication No serial traffic found within the last 500
milliseconds.
91-1 Serial Checksum
Error
Data received by the machine is not the
same as sent by the controller.
91-2 Optioning Error Conflicting machine options (for example
02=04 and 78Lo=0).
| 91-4 Mystery Progressive
Hit during Game Over
Award data is in the serial stream at
an unexpected time. A Handpay is
required for the Mystery Award. Turning
the Keyswitch displays the Handpay
information. The tilt will clear in five
seconds and the amount awarded is
displayed in WIN PAID.
91-5 Jackpot Missing MAPS jackpot information missing from
APC communication.
91-7 Game Error Lockout Host status poll timeout detected by
game.
91-8 Host Defined Lockout
in Configuration
Game disabled by holiday/non-holiday
enable/disable configuration.
91-9 Game in Host
Configuration
Host is in the process of configuring
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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2011, 06:44:05 PM »

Make sure the can for bills is in all the way
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 06:45:41 PM »

Will do............I'll get back.....Thanks
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ClutchKargo
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« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 07:04:21 PM »

Well I can't believe it the cash box was in upside down!!!

I looked closely at and tuned it around and put it in and it fired right up.

So I the guy from a local business was over here 4 times and couldn't figure this out...........UNBELIEVEABLE!!

And he hit my Mother in-law for over 80 bucks each time for a sevice call fee and never got anything done.  What a TOOL!

Thanks
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 07:10:38 PM »

 applause applause Clap Clap  That was an easy fix. Happy to help, Ford
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 07:23:12 PM »

Topic Moved to Bally Reel Games.

Glad that it was such an easy fix. I would call the owner or manager of that "repair" company. If they do not provide some relief, I would contact the Better Business Bureau and also go to on-line sites that review businesses. They deserve $400 worth of negative advertising if they do not do a partial refund! I am sickened when I hear of companies fleecing people in such dire times, or at least being totally incompetent!

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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2011, 07:26:20 PM »

 +1 (Karma, or whatever) to Ford for helping out! And I gave you your first positive Karma for sticking with it and getting it fixed for your Mother In Law! Clap Clap Clap

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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 08:24:51 PM »

Thanks CH.

ClutchKargo, now that you have it working you will not want to give it to your mother-in-law. You'll be getting one for yourself.
What you did is all it takes to get the fever.
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2011, 12:01:05 AM »

Thanks Everyone!! 

Great Site! and a Special Thanks again to Ford!!!

We have been having a ball playing with this Slot Machine all afternoon and evening. It is in like new condition and I think my Father In Law got it for next to nothing.

My Mother In Law will be calling tomorrow to get resolution on this situation, I'll let you all know what happens.  Yeah I was pretty mad when it only took me minutes to fix after Ford's help.

Take care all.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2011, 12:09:59 AM »

Hey one more quick question on the bill box. I tried to pull it out now and it doesn't seem to want to come out now easily is there a release I have to press or is it just a good hard pull to get it out?

I've pulled fairly hard but it didn't seem to budge so I thought I'd ask to see if there was a release I need to press somewhere.

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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2011, 12:31:51 AM »

On the inside on right side there is a lever to release it.
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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2011, 12:39:25 AM »

Okay Thanks
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2011, 02:30:39 AM »

On the inside on right side there is a lever to release it.

<ADD> Maybe I'm confused. Isn't this a Bally Proslot?  Scratch Head If I'm wrong, please disregard the post below.


The instructions below are for a Proslot with the cash box accessed from a drop door located on the right side of the machine.


Get a throw away credit card and keep it near the machine. There are recessed release latches on both sides of the box. Put the CC in one side and pull the box out slightly, then put the CC in the other side without letting the first side re-lock. Then pull the box out.

It's not as hard as it sounds after you've tried it a couple of times.

Other solutions:

1. There is an "official" extractor you can buy. Personally, I think it's much more trouble than it's worth.

2. You can rewire the switch underneath the cash box to trick the machine into thinking that it's in place and then just toss the box in the closet. The bills will drop into the open hole and you can just open the outer door and remove them.

    Note: Some members will tell you to cut and solder the wires together, but why cut and splice when it's not necessary?
             The switch has 3 contacts: NO (normally open), NC (normally closed), common.
             Just move the tab from the NO contact to the NC contact.
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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2011, 03:10:16 PM »

Get a throw away credit card and keep it near the machine. There are recessed release latches on both sides of the box. Put the CC in one side and pull the box out slightly, then put the CC in the other side without letting the first side re-lock. Then pull the box out.

It's not as hard as it sounds after you've tried it a couple of times.
 

 What you describe here is the way to remove a Sigma SG50. I don't have a Bally that comes out that way.
All my Ballys work like IGT. There is lever on cash box you push
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2011, 03:58:33 PM »

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Get a throw away credit card and keep it near the machine. There are recessed release latches on both sides of the box. Put the CC in one side and pull the box out slightly, then put the CC in the other side without letting the first side re-lock. Then pull the box out.

It's not as hard as it sounds after you've tried it a couple of times.


 What you describe here is the way to remove a Sigma SG50. I don't have a Bally that comes out that way.
All my Ballys work like IGT. There is lever on cash box you push

Bally S5500s have a drop door on the side and a simple open spring-loaded cash can that must be removed as I described (like a Wms Dot). Perhaps the S6000 uses an IGT style box, which was why I wasn't sure. I don't own one and didn't pay close attention to that detail when I saw them at Buzz's or Joey's.

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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2011, 03:59:38 PM »

The S6000 series has a door that you open down, latched on the bottom, release lever same as IGT.
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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2011, 04:02:13 PM »

The S6000 series has a door that you open down, latched on the bottom, release lever same as IGT.

Is it inside the belly, like an IGT? (I'm learning something new today yes) arrow
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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2011, 04:02:40 PM »

You tell em Reed
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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2011, 04:03:35 PM »

Same as IGT except door for cash box drops down
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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2011, 04:07:28 PM »

Thanks Ford and Reed.  +1 (Karma, or whatever) to both of you. applause


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