Game King Video Slot to PC (SAS RS232)

[SAT (aka GANDHI)]

well, I'm going to have to get me a language descrambler!

     yeah!!!! me too...

[Forrhouse]

Hear are the translations:

Probaj sa 19 200 8 - 1 - Even  - ovaj parity je jako bitan!

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Try with 19 200 8 - 1 - Even - the parity is very important!



Oooo , Pa ja sada sam uvideo da ti si iz HR.
Pozdrav od  SK - MK !!! Ne mogu ti pomoci oko detalja za tvog programa - neznam C - ja sam pocetnik u V.Basic Net ali dogurao sam donegde , moja specijalnost je asm za PIC microcontrolere.

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Oooo, I'm now uvideo that you are in HR. Greetings from SK - MK! I can not help you about the details of your program - do not C - I am a beginner in V. Basic Net dogurao but I donegde, my specialty is the ASM for PIC microcontrolere.

[StatFreak]

Oh, how I want to crack wise here. There's so much material... I'm just going to bite my tongue...

On a serious note. Thanks zocky for all of the information.

[zocky]

OK!
Now I have a question !
How I connect aristocrat model 540pcb to DACOM or other protocol device and take data from machine like SAS !

[zocky]

answer for "smol64"

Sorry !  "smol64"
My software can't work without hardware !
I implement and hard-lock usb dongle .
See my picture published before ,
it work with 32 machine , can read all electronics counter from Gamble Machine,pay in and pay out money or credit
can read cabinet status ( open door, lock .....) , read PCB status ( ready , game mod ,.....)
and now implement and jack pot system on second LCD monitor 40" ( mystery and progressive , and TIME jack pot exam. every day from 8.00AM to
12.00 PM fix price for RND active machine but only is active min. 5 GM )
Of course available and shift report with printed document and other stuff.


I repeat before question ???
How I connect aristocrat model 540pcb to DACOM or other protocol device and take data from machine like SAS on who connector , speed parity ...!
I know that is possible but don't know how .

[TZtech]

Hello Zocky

Thanks for the great info. Newer Aristocrats have SPC boards (Mk5 onwards ? - I could be wrong) that should translate whatever proprietary protocol Aristocrat uses to SAS.
There is a difference between the american and australian 540 - could you post a pic so we know what we are dealing with ?

Regards
Ian

[zocky]

Sorry for late answer !

I success connect on cabinet MVP MK5 with SAS interface on P1 connector an communication with him is OK , but can't communicate with MK4 on P1 serial connector because  I don't know
"question" (how many bytes and cheksum ) for MK4 , speed , parity, ...
On my last visit on Belgrade fair seed one solution who is connect on P1 RS232 connector , and try but , without success .


Where find data about this communication protocol !

[Ozzy]

GOOD LUCK, really you are not getting anywhere with all this. SAS is SAS , pay the money and you will get the answers.

If you are all interested in designing an on line system, you will need to pay "MEAGA BUCKS" to Igt to start off with.


Keep hoping...


cheers


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[momixdj]

you can use a trick to achive the wake up by snding first 0xff twice at 38400,8,n,1 and then the aset number (common is 1) at the normal sas speed of 19200 but in Mark parity state and then the rest in Space parity state and that will work fine.

[momixdj]

the checksum is crc16 ccitt kermit, you can use an online calculator first an then make the code i all have it working allready and i did not pay a buck jo jo jo

[momixdj]

and the "lenght of data field" does not count the aset number, the command, itself, and the crc (two bytes)

[sandu adrian]

please, can anyone tell me what is the exact specification of the serial port? because i've seen somewhere that is 19200 baud 8n1 and somewhere else 8 data bits 2 stop bits ans mark parity & space parity alternating after address
so witch is true?
and by the way it is rts handshake right?
i appreciate any answer

[sandu adrian]

so i understood that wake up bits stays in the parity bits,only the address byte should have mark parity ( a 1 in parity area) and the command bytes + crc must have 0 in parity area witch is space parity
i made a program under windows changing parity type (only by closing and opening serial port at different parity type) but is not working. the problem is that i am able to make it under dos( changing the lcr (line control register) in asm ( turbo assembler ) or q basic ( inp and out)), of serial port (&h3f8) but in windows i need some drivers to make it work.
i used some kind of visual basic(purebasic) under windows can anyone help me i've seen someone developed a program with visualbasic ( Microsoft)
i appreciate any help.

Adrian

[momixdj]

i sent you a personal message.

[Dneo]

I have a referral system to the system through the SAS protocol works well, but need the SAS protocol version 6.02, I would be very grateful if someone would give me thi

[stayouttadabunker]

Which protocol version are you presently using Dneo?

[Dneo]

Hi,
I'm designing a SAS module to SNMP. I have it already working; don't know very well what version since I got all data by researching on the soft SASTEST by IGT. What I'd need would be  more information or the 6.2 protocol so that I can finish my project. If you happen to have an available protocol, could you please send it to me? Thnak you!

Pablo, from Argentina

[stayouttadabunker]

I wish I did Pablo, 
I'd send it to you in a heartbeat to see what you could do with it!

[jshields]

I am trying  to connect directly to the j81 port on the igt machines I am using a standard  rs232 to rs485 converter but can not get any comms can someone help me with the pinout do i need to use a half or full duplex converter?  I can connect to the machine through the rs232 port but need to go through the 485   Please help
 

[TZtech]

Welcome to NLG

Attached find schematic for comms board - Maybe this will help ?

[AndyP]

How many people are actually interested in a PC app to run SAS machine? I can do it without the need for special hardware (i think) and have a bunch of code already written for SAS protocol machines. Language would be C++, but might make it into a DLL for c# or vb.net. I dont have a SAS machine at the moment, but might be able to commission one in the near future.

[knagl]

Does SAS allow for TITO usage (ie. would one be able to create a back-office TITO system for their basement with your PC app)?  If so, I'm sure there'd be lots of interest.

[AndyP]

Yes, there SAS protocol does have provision for TITO. Not sure how wide the support is from gaming machines though. I only have the later version of the protocol, so might not be usefull for older games. Unfortunatly, I cannot give out the protocol, as is signed under a non-disclosure agreement and my company name is plastered all over the document.

[stayouttadabunker]

lol...I understand that you don't want to disclose anything about the protocol.
That's under your agreement with the big shots.
However, would you be under fire if you wrote a program that would work for us
slot homeowners to put on their PC to get their tickets to work on their home machines?

Personally, I don't want to know anything about the licensed protocol or any of the code -
I couldn't care less really.
I'd just like to be able to allow my own machine accept the TITO tickets
it prints out using a cheap laptop hooked up to an S+ or my S2000.

Could you guys make something like that?
Hide or encrpyt the protocol if you need to...it will protect you from any problems with the big shots!
It's all mumble jumble useless stuff to us anyways. 

[AndyP]

Its impossible to hide anything! However we can make it hard!

When I have some spare time in the next couple of months I might put something together.