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« on: September 02, 2011, 11:00:23 AM »

so I made a mistake a bought a CEi hot slot. The machine was in cosmetically good condition and came with a manual and some spares.  It had a battery code so I was gambling that it would be an easy fix.  I easily solved the battery code only to get a series of various other codes.  I worked through the remaining codes and fixed the remaining problems. 

now the trouble it turns out it has a 7 bar Eprom installed but has 7's and bars for reels. If anyone is aware of how cei works they don't have stepper motors just little dc motors and then optical sensors that read little silver strips on the reel.  It does a self test and determines it has the wrong reels for the eprom and barks at me.  I got a few extra parts for it including 7 bar reels (don't match glass but ok) I install the reels but the silver strips are damaged an can't be read properly.  So does anyone happen to have a 7's and bars eprom?  I would guess unlikely.  I do have the correct e prom for the good reels and glass but it won't boot.  Has anyone ever pulled the code off a bad eprom and flashed to new chip and had it work?  The other thing I am considering is to fix the silver strips on the 7bar reels, does anyone know if this would be some special material?  I was considering using foil tape like on a heat duct.  Anyone have any good ideas that might prevent this from being a 200 pound night light?
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2011, 10:15:45 PM »

Just to close out this thread in case someone comes along looking for help.  First machine should be called PIA not CIE. I do have the manual and all codes so if anyone needs that info let me know.  I suffered reel errors, game prom reel mismatch errors after I fixed all the errors from dirty connections.  The reel errors are caused by the crazy system that this machine uses to detect the reel strip location.  The reel must be clean and that optics must be clean.  I cleaned both with simple green.  The optics I wet a tooth pick with simple green and scrubbed the lens.  If the silver tabs are damaged on the reel make new  ones with that silver tape used to seal ducts.  Not duct tap but foil tape.  Make them exact.  Now I have a coin comp problem that i think people on the board can help with.  I will start a new post for that.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2011, 04:13:34 PM »

Now that the machine is working I have played with it some more and read the manual on some of the programmable  features.  It has a programmable tournament mode where you can set up timed games for cash, credit or free play.  I set it up that way and it works pretty cool.   It seems like the machine is pretty advanced for its time.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2011, 11:10:04 PM »

Any chance of a picture of your machine?  Please Post Pictures  I'm not sure that I've ever seen a CEI slot on the casino floor. 

Also, I think you've quickly become the resident  nlg CEI expert.  yes
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2011, 01:55:41 PM »

Here is a tour of the CEI Hot Slot.  

First a full view.  Sort of an Austin Powers retro look.

Next my jackpot after 4 days of life.


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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2011, 02:00:44 PM »

With door open.  You car see reels stay closed.

Then the hopper


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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2011, 02:03:25 PM »

reels in machine


next is one reel removed from the cage.  You can sort of see the motor set up.  Small DC motors not steppers and they are driven from the outside.  An optical sensor on the outside determines reel location.


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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2011, 02:05:41 PM »

Next you can see the reflective tapes that the optical sensors pick up.  and finally the ID tag.  1988  I think there styling department was stuck in the 70's though


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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2011, 08:03:46 AM »

This is the motor and optic.  As you can see it is a very small motor compared to the steppers.


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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2011, 09:38:06 AM »

That is a different slot.

A little 1988 history;   Professor

In 1988 the stepper slots with virtual stops were three years old. IGT had filed a complaint to the Nevada Gaming Commission that Universal was using an illegal program called the "near-miss-feature". A program that the NGC had approved years earlier. Universal had no new games in 1988 as the NGC had put them on hold pending investigation. IGT also bought the Telnaus RNG patent in 1988 requiring competitive manufactures to pay them a royalty for using the RNG. And I believe, help me out IGT folks, that the S+ was introduced around this time. Universal also upgraded their slot by creating the 8800 board.

This CEI machine appears to be years behind the competition of the day.
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2011, 10:13:46 AM »

The area that I thought it seemed advanced was in the high degree of user programming that it accepts.  You can configure tournaments with cash, credit, free play.  Adjust hopper payouts in increments of 25 and numerous other areas all with programming and not dips.   It runs off 2 mitsubishi  740 microcontrollers at 7.3728 mhz.  It uses 3 prom chips for operation and oddly stores last game and credit information in a micro chip in the battery.  This "feature"  is what was the original trouble.  Machine had a code e12 low battery error so I was thinking easy fix.  To resolve this you need cut the battery apart and solder a battery holder to 2 of the micro chip legs.  I have no idea why you would store this info in the battery.  Maybe you could take the battery out of a failed machine and read the players winnings in case of a system failure.

In reading more of the manual I discovered that it does determine the outcome as soon as you push spin and then moves the reels to that position. It is now off the original crazy hot streak and will suck up money as fast as any other.  I wonder if it was also a victim of IGTs patent forcing them out of business?

The manual praises the small motor design on the ability to change between games quickly and cheaply.  The reels pull right out and the motors stay in place, the main board comes out as easy as an ultra.  If you wanted to change game kit you could do it in just a couple minutes.

Sitting next to my IGT you would think the CEI is 10 years older by appearance but it is actually 1 year newer.
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2011, 11:17:14 AM »

K+ for the pictures.  I agree with you about the machine looking old -- maybe that helped to hasten the company's demise, too (having outdated looking products).
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