Wheel & knife sizes

[BCD]

Can anyone point me to a website, or previous post, that lists the dimensions of IGT S2000 pin wheels, shelf wheels, and hopper knives?

I've prowled the web and can only deduce there are five or six shelf wheel sizes based on various sellers' inventory listings.  As for pin wheels it would seem there should be one diameter wheel but different number of pins based on the denomination of coin.  But that is only a wild guess of mine.  Anyhoo, are there different size pin wheels or do they have differing #'s of pins?

Coin knives seem to be listed as "small coin" and "large coin" without any physical measurements.

I have four different shelf wheels but am not sure what denomination coin(s) they are meant for  .  They are:
   5 3/8" Diameter (dollar size maybe)
   5 5/8"      "     Part# 57505506C as of 7/93
   5 3/4"     "     Part# 57505503C as of 5/02
   5 13/16" - 5 7/8" Diameter (dime or penny maybe)

I have a coin knife that measures 5 1/8" end-to-end with the tallest measurement (height coin would be lifted off shelf wheel) being 17/32".  I'd like to find out if this is a small coin or large coin knife.

Thanks in advance for any help!     

[stayouttadabunker]

I don't know the specs but generally, the largest wheel  shelf would be for smaller coins -
while the smaller wheel shelves would be for larger tokens.
Find the biggest knife you can get so the smallest coins will get pushed up
into the hopper optics and be counted.

[Jim]

the 5-3/8 wheel is for a U.S. Quarter.  so measure the coin you want to use and add or subtract that from the 5- 3/8. that leaves about 1/16 inch from the edge of the coin to the outer dimension of the pin wheels.

have only seen pin wheels for nickels, quarter or dollars and larger type tokens.  each pin wheel has a number of tips, that number usually corresponds to the type coin. nickel has the most, quarter has a few less , dollars have less and so on.

only know of two type of knives. small coin handles small coins e.g. dimes, nickels, quarter, fifty cent, and SBA's.  large coin does the IKES, etc. and larger type tokens.

Jim

[poppo]

This probably won't help much, but here are a few pinwheels I had. The front one is for dollars and the rear ones are for quarters. But the back two have different types of 'pins'.

Click on picture to enlarge

[BCD]

 :3-YOU GUYS ARE GREAT!!

Bunker - Good advice on the knife size.  I'm gonna play with the knife and shelf wheels I have tonight to see how high the pennies go into the optics sensor.

Jim - The diameter of your quarter wheel is exactly what I was looking for.  Now I have a benchmark.

poppo - Your picture helped more than you realize.  I counted the little nubbers (tech talk) I can see on your back wheel, it looks like there might be 14, which is how many mine has.  If there are 14 on yours then I know my wheel is a quarter wheel.

NLG experts come through again!

Thanks.

[stayouttadabunker]

... I counted the little nubbers (tech talk)...

I call them "Stamped Nipples"...uh...tech talk....

[BCD]

OUCH!   

[jbshocks]

:3-YOU GUYS ARE GREAT!!

Bunker - Good advice on the knife size.  I'm gonna play with the knife and shelf wheels I have tonight to see how high the pennies go into the optics sensor.



Thanks.

Will an IGT reliably run on pennies?  I know i heard dimes are a bad idea.

[stayouttadabunker]

Dimes and pennies have a tendency to slip under and force the knife out away
from the pinwheel facial wall and cause jams.
Nickels, quarters and large tokens are really the best coins to use because they are thicker
and have much less chance of getting under the knife.

However, BCD is trying to sort out pennies so we're trying to help him with this.
If he makes sure that he has the knife supported with a knife stiffener plate,
then he should not have so many jams provided he doesn't put
sharp-edged pennies into the hopper.

It may not be possible to find those abnormal coins
before he dumps them into the hopper though - he has too many.
Jams are probably going to happen - that's pretty much inevitable...
I just hope he doesn't have too many jams and doesn't get
frustrated with the sorting project.

[BCD]

Bunker, you touched on a mild annoyance.  Very infrequently a penny will slide under the knife.  So far my remedy has been to lightly press the knife against the pin wheel, getting rid of the problem.  I have an idea for an easily Rubed pressure wing bolt to replace my finger against the knife.  That's #3 on the list of "refinements."  BUT, you mentioned a knife stiffener plate.  I Googled it and got 0 hits.  I found metal knives but no plate.  Can you point me in the direction of one of these plates?  Does anyone use metal knives.

BTW, frustration and Rubing go hand-in-hand.  Giving up on the sorting project ain't gonna happen as I have gotten it to the point, WITH HELP FROM MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM, where I can sort at a rate of 300+ coins/per minute.  That matches, or exceeds, the commercial alloy comparing sorters on the market.  Now, I'm playing with bells and whistles.  I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but persistence is one of the quirks I have...QUIT!?!?  No way!

FYI, here's a link for anyone looking to repair small electric circuits; http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-Conductive-Glue-and-Glue-a-Circuit/?ALLSTEPS . An excellent example is a Ruber attempting to solder a hand held calculator circuit board that doesn't want to be soldered .  Making a coin counter out of a calculator ain't as easy as it looks.  Anyhoo, back to the workbench this afternoon.   

[stayouttadabunker]

Suzo-Happs thinks they're made out of silver I guess... 
not only that...they have a photo of it backwards actually.
Unless you like looking at hoppers upside down...
I'm pretty sure you can fashion one out of thin plate steel
and a good drill bit...LOL 
It pretty much bolts right on over the knife to help hold it against the pinwheel and also helps guides coins out instead of them falling off of the knife and back into the hopper. >>>

http://na.suzohapp.com/gaming/gaming_parts/70061900.htm

[BCD]

Hey Bunker,

Thanks for the pic.   :25-Yup, I've got one of them things.  Now I know what it's called. 

I fashioned an agitator, stirrer, whatever moniker you want to hang on it.  Definitely not a star but it works. 

Now, just waiting for the slow boat from Hong Kong with my counters.  Once we get to countin', the Rube gizmo should be pretty much done.  Then the REAL fun begins..."Alright it's workin' now let's see how fast we can screw it up with bells & buzzers!"

Again Bunker, thanks for the picture and all of your help.