S+ and Spectrum Display

[dcslots]

I asked this question of someone and was told it was probably not doable...but before I give up, wanted to post it and see if anyone has a different opinion or knowledge on this:

The Machine: IGT S+ Upright, 16" Top Box.

The Game: RWB 2 CN Tournament Game

The proposed Display: Spectrum Display kit (per Ken at Ohio Slots)

The question...is it possible to install this display and have it display information other than a progressive jackpot....ie, the amount of a win on a spin or even better the total accumulated winnnings during tournament play or both?

The more detail you can give on this the better.   As we all know, I am as good a tech as Elmer Fudd is a Rabbit Killer.

[StatFreak]

I don't know much about these but from what I've read aound here, the Spectrum uses the Netplex communication protocol designed for the S2000. I don't know if you can bypass the protocol and drive the display directly but if not, you'd be much better off getting a display that can interface with the S+.  I highly doubt that it would be worth the effort to try to decipher and emulate Netplex just to get this display to work in an S+.  That's my 2¢ FWIW.

Stat

[OhioGaming]

Since the original post he asked for a progressive unit for a 16" high top S+ I responded to his request since I have Spectrum units for the S+ machines. After talking to him on the phone and then mentioning that he wanted different opitions than a standard progressive display I then mentioned that I didn't think the S+ Spectrum unit would be doable for what he is wanting and could only be set up as a standard progressive. Key 91 info below.


USING THE SET 91 CHIP
Turn the machine power off.  Remove the old game chip.  Install the set chip.  Turn the machine power on.  Credits window = set chip version.  Winner Paid window = any tilts detected during power up.

65_3 Advisory Message:  If the set chip determines that the game options and meters can be upgraded to the most current format, Winner Paid window = 65_3.  Turning the jackpot reset key automatically upgrades the game options and meters to the most current format, and allows the set chip to be used to modify the options listed in this document.  Please note that turning the jackpot reset key upgrades the game, which may no longer be compatible with the old game data format (i.e., if reinstalling the old game, data may not be restored without losing game options and meters).
Turn the power off.  Remove the set chip.  Install the new game chip.

65_4 Advisory Message:  When upgrading an old program, if the set chip is unable to upgrade the game options and meters, Winner Paid window = 65_4.  The new game must be installed before the set chip can be used.  Please note that all game options and meters will be lost when installing the new game.
To clear this tilt, turn the power off.  Remove the set chip.  Install the new game chip.  Turn the power on, clear all tilts, and turn power off.  Remove the new game chip.  Install the set chip.  Turn the power on.  Use the set chip to set options.  Turn the power off.  Remove the set chip.  Install the game chip.

SET CHIP OPTIONS
Press the self test button to step through the set chip option pages.  To change an option setting, press the Spin Reels button.  The numbers appearing below enclosed in < > represent the page number, [ ] represent the option number, and { } represent the setting.
NOTE:  After any change has been made, save the option(s) by stepping through to the last page and exiting or by pressing the Bet One Credit button.
NOTE:  If not supported by the game, set chip option settings are ignored.
Accounting System
Communication Type   Options are none {0}, Bally MISER {1}, or IGT SAS {2}.

SAS Communication
Address <0>   When using the SAS protocol, a machine address is required to distinguish one machine from another.  The valid address range is {001} to {127}.
NOTE:  SAS is not enabled if the address is zero.

Bill Pay Mode <0> [8]   Determines how inserted bills are paid.  Options are bill pay mode is fixed to changer only and cannot be changed in self test {0}, or bill pay mode is self-test selectable {1}.

Bill Acceptor <0> [9]   Options are enabled {1} or disabled {0}.

Coupon Capability or EFT <0> [11]   If the communication type is MISER, this page determines whether the coupon capability is enabled {1} or disabled {0}.  If the communication    type is SAS, this page determines whether EFT is enabled {1} or disabled {0}.

Country Code <0> [30]   This page is not displayed if the bill acceptor is disabled.  Determines the country code associated with the bill acceptor.  Options are United States {37} or Canada {7}.

Progressive Selection <0> [31]   Options are none {0}; primary-level link, secondary-level link {1}; primary-level link, secondary-level standalone {2}; primary-level standalone, secondary-level standalone {3}; and primary-level standalone, secondary-level link {4}.

Progressive Levels <0> [35]   Options are one progressive level {1}, or two progressive levels {2}.

Jackpot to Credit <0> [43]   If the communication type is MISER, this page determines whether jackpots can be directed to the credit meter.  Options are enabled {1} or disabled {0}.

Progressive Type <0> [60]   Options are high/low {0}, or alternating {1} progressive.  The progressive level must be set at {2} for high/low progressive.

SAS Progressive <0> [63]   This page is not displayed unless the SAS communication address has been set.  Determines whether the SAS progressive is enabled {1} or disabled {0}.

NOTE:  When this option is changed from enabled to disabled, the progressive option selection defaults to both levels link progressive and the progressive type defaults to high/low.

SAS Bonusing <0> [64]   This page is not displayed unless the SAS communication address has been set.  Determines whether SAS bonusing features are enabled {1} or disabled {0}.

Denomination <6>   Determines the game denomination.  The Credits window displays the current denomination, in cents.  The Winner Paid and Credits windows display denominations larger than $50.00.

Setup <9>   This setup is displayed only if at least one progressive level is specified as standalone.
Press the self test button to advance from one standalone parameter to the next.
To select the digit to be changed, turn the jackpot reset key.
Press the Spin Reels button to increment the value of the currently selected digit.
Press the self test button to save selected parameters.
Upper portion of progressive display unit = amounts and data for the primary standalone progressive award.
Lower portion of progressive display unit = amounts and data for the secondary standalone progressive award.
Primary-level parameters are progressive reset amount [1], maximum progressive amount [2], progressive increment percentage [3] (FYI .. 004.00 = 1 cent per coin), and current progressive amount [4].
Secondary level parameters are progressive reset amount [5], maximum progressive amount [6], progressive increment percentage [7], and current progressive amount [8].

[stayouttadabunker]

I don't know much about these but from what I've read aound here, the Spectrum uses the Netplex communication protocol designed for the S2000. I don't know if you can bypass the protocol and drive the display directly but if not, you'd be much better off getting a display that can interface with the S+.  I highly doubt that it would be worth the effort to try to decipher and emulate Netplex just to get this display to work in an S+.  That's my 2¢ FWIW.

Stat

I think it was last winter ( or was it the winter before last? lol )
I was trying to hook up an S+ double progressive display to an S2000.
I had no luck with that little project...
Thanks to the Foster for trying to help me out with that mess!  

[Foster]

When I had a S+ and either the mini photon or S+ Spectrum (I have a couple of them as well) when in tournament mode it could increment the display (I believe it acted as a second total win display.

When the S+ is in tournament mode the player display:
 one display shows the total credits won and the other window was the credits remaining if you set the tournament up that way.
 note this is the only time the S+ would allow credits over 9999.

[StatFreak]

I did not know that they made a spectrum specifically for the S+. I learned something new today.

  guys.

The question is, why would they do that when they were trying to force casinos to buy the S2000 and dump their S-pluses?

[coorslight115]

In tournament mode the S+ progressive displayes show the total dollars won so far in the tournament. All I have tryed do this. Mini, spectrum and Mikohn

[CaptainHappy]

I did not know that they made a spectrum specifically for the S+. I learned something new today.

  guys.

The question is, why would they do that when they were trying to force casinos to buy the S2000 and dump their S-pluses?

Stat,

These are older Spectrum displays that were for S+'s way before the netplex models for S2K. These were used alot on Megabucks machines with two stacked displays, the top one bigger than the bottom one.

Noone really says it but the newer progressives are actually SPECTRUM II's! For i960 netplex. I am pretty sure that there are SPECTRUM III's now too, but I have never seen that beast!

Maybe you have learned something else new today? That should answer your question too...

CH

[PLUNGER BOY]

I did not know that they made a spectrum specifically for the S+. I learned something new today.

  guys.

The question is, why would they do that when they were trying to force casinos to buy the S2000 and dump their S-pluses?

Stat,

These are older Spectrum displays that were for S+'s way before the netplex models for S2K. These were used alot on Megabucks machines with two stacked displays, the top one bigger than the bottom one.

Noone really says it but the newer progressives are actually SPECTRUM II's! For i960 netplex. I am pretty sure that there are SPECTRUM III's now too, but I have never seen that beast!

Maybe you have learned something else new today? That should answer your question too...

CH

DUEL SPECTRUM DISPLAY  IN A MEGABUCK MACHINE I HAVE

[knagl]

DUEL SPECTRUM DISPLAY  IN A MEGABUCK MACHINE I HAVE

That's an S2000. 

[stayouttadabunker]

That's an S2000. 

Yes, the digits are way on the right all the time and you cannot center them.