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« Reply #125 on: January 29, 2012, 12:01:47 AM »

OHHH Cmon....Im starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel and now your gonna tell me its a train  face in palm    censored censored
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« Reply #126 on: January 29, 2012, 12:07:15 AM »

OHHH Cmon....Im starting to see a light at the end of the tunnel and now your gonna tell me its a train  face in palm    censored censored

Please go back and read what I just posted...
I added stuff while you posted.

It's not the end of the world....all you gotta do is pull that unit out, set it on a table
and look down into the slot area and try to see if any pins are bent.
If, this is a big IF, the pins are NOT broken...you may be able to slowly bend them back up straight.
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« Reply #127 on: January 29, 2012, 12:08:30 AM »

I will be happy to take mine apart to show you how easy/hard it is to do?

Do the easy things first - change that battery.
Maybe we will get lucky.
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« Reply #128 on: January 29, 2012, 12:16:55 AM »

I will check the pins ......I know its not the end of the world...I was just messing around with the comment....I will check it out and let you know,I know where to look
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« Reply #129 on: January 29, 2012, 12:41:12 AM »

It's quite daunting when you first look at it.
There are 2-rows of 34 pins totaling 64 pins in all.
If any two or more of those pins are "squashed" together -
they were both trying to get into one hole.
This is small tiny stuff we're looking at...I'm having a hard time just to get a decent photo of mine.
This is why I was trying to show you earlier how the plunger "pops up" when the card is inserted correctly.
You shouldn't have to force it !!!
The plunger doesn't pop too high - it only comes up to about just below level of the top of the LCD computer housing.

At the end of your LCD computer "Boot-Up" sequence - did you get to the red screen showing the "Missing Required Components..." message again? That means it's NOT reading the PCMCIA flash card.

I'm seeing if there's going to be a viable way to bend pins back...
My LCD computer's coming apart for you and in the name of slot science.  stir the pot / get cooking

Below is a photo of 64 straight male pins in the PCMCIA slot of the LCD computer.
It's in a fairly high resolution so one can open it with their preferred picture viewer
and zoom in on this puppy!...>>>


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« Reply #130 on: January 29, 2012, 01:15:17 AM »

Checked all pins They are all aligned with each other and in straight rows ....Those things are small !!! the card slides in and out smooth and plunger is working proper...whenever i install the card I make sure it is in all the way and is seated in the rails on the sides...and i dont push it down with any force ...oh and when the all the information is shown on the screen it does go back to red
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« Reply #131 on: January 29, 2012, 01:21:46 AM »

How's that battery?
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« Reply #132 on: January 29, 2012, 01:28:43 AM »

How's that battery?

For testing purposes, I'd like to pull my battery but with my RFA card in the state of Idaho -
I won't be able to restore my computer for a few days!!  rotflmao
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« Reply #133 on: January 29, 2012, 01:33:19 AM »

Thought I had a meter but I dont ....Go Figure ....May have to wait until I can Get one in the morning
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« Reply #134 on: January 29, 2012, 01:47:12 AM »

oh crap.....sorry about that ....now i feel really bad....I can send it back...right away
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« Reply #135 on: January 29, 2012, 02:05:41 AM »

State of Idaho???  Where are you from TD?  A month or two ago there were a couple of IGT machines on Craigslist in Mountain Home and one was a non working Slingo!

Are you the one that bought them?  

Jason
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« Reply #136 on: January 29, 2012, 02:14:54 AM »

oh crap.....sorry about that ....now i feel really bad....I can send it back...right away

No TD...you're going to hang onto that RFA card I sent ya until we get this puppy running!
You're going to have to drop it back in perhaps because the LCD was indicating earlier that you need to do a "SET-UP".

Remember, we have a bit of fun working on these things...it's just a hobby for us.  yes
There's absolutely no rush.
You and many others will learn how a Vision works by getting this going the way you want it to.  yes
Again, there's no rush... no
I'll watch for your posts tomorrow.
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« Reply #137 on: January 29, 2012, 02:19:13 AM »

State of Idaho???  Where are you from TD?  A month or two there were couple of IGT machines on Craigslist in Mountain Home and one was a non working Slingo!

Are you the one that bought them? 

Jason
Bingo .............I wasnt fast enough to get the other one he had ....Im in boise ...where are you ?
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« Reply #138 on: January 29, 2012, 02:25:01 AM »

Bunker,all I can say is thanks ....thanks for going the extra mile to help people ....and like I said in the past you are one hellava multi-tasker............when this is over I will find some way to repay you....I will let you know what i find with the battery...........
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« Reply #139 on: January 29, 2012, 06:30:30 PM »

State of Idaho???  Where are you from TD?  A month or two there were couple of IGT machines on Craigslist in Mountain Home and one was a non working Slingo!

Are you the one that bought them?  

Jason
Bingo .............I wasnt fast enough to get the other one he had ....Im in boise ...where are you ?

Small world...I'm a Boisean as well.  Yeah, these types of toys don't last long on our local Craigslist for sure.

Hope you get that "Slingo" beauty going!

Jason
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« Reply #140 on: January 29, 2012, 07:17:36 PM »

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Small world...I'm a Boisean as well.  Yeah, these types of toys don't last long on our local Craigslist for sure.

Hope you get that "Slingo" beauty going!

Jason

Wow ....it is a small world ...I had no idea ...I'm sure we will be in touch...we can send each other alerts when machines come up close.. yes yes


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« Reply #141 on: January 29, 2012, 07:26:06 PM »

Good news ....Got a battery Powered up ...finally got past RED SCREEN OF DEATH !!!!!!! I can actually get into the menu and see it all on the screen....Bunker..it said Hard Disk 20 MB at boot up ......Here is what I have now...Candle flashing....  LCD Screen-There is a problem w/machine ...VFD says Call Attendant.....machine Type Mismatch...Closure M......Restart....THANK GOD>>>>>>> its good to see something else but RED     applause applause applause applause
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« Reply #142 on: January 29, 2012, 08:46:40 PM »

okay,
press the test button once.
Up on your screen, see if you can get into the Keychip options.
dig around in there and look for machine "type" and set it for upright.
All the errors will go away by opening and closing the door latch a couple of times to removed the "Stacked" codes...

If you cannot get into the machine type settings,
then you will have to pull the MPU (with the power off and door open of course!)
remove the SB chip,
install the Keychip,
install the MPU again,
power up until you see two amber LEDs light up on the MPU board,
turn OFF the power again,
remove the MPU,
remove the keychip,
re-install the game SB chip,
re-install the MPU,
power up and go into the Keychip options
and change the machine type to "upright" machine....
then keep pressing the start button to get out of the Options
Close the door
and the game should come up.

"Hard Disk 20" means the LCD computer is finally "reading" the BGM PCMCIA flash card in the top slot.
Remember to remove the side RFA card.
Keep it aside for now...you need to hang onto it for like a week to see if the LCD "retains" the OS info.

What I think happened is the battery died...then the computer lost it's info but not completely -
Then fresh reboot of the RFA card in the side slot and a new battery allowed the computer to read the top card again.
The fresh battery should retain stuff in the RAM or CMOS eprom now.
Later on, you're going to want a spare RFA card in case the battery dies again.
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« Reply #143 on: January 29, 2012, 09:46:21 PM »

Went through key chip menu set everything .....got out of menu....attract comes up on screen VFD says closure M and restart...coins just drop through....
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« Reply #144 on: January 29, 2012, 09:48:50 PM »

Tried opening and closing door many times .....no change
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« Reply #145 on: January 29, 2012, 10:00:19 PM »

Went through key chip menu set everything .....got out of menu....attract comes up on screen VFD says closure M and restart...coins just drop through....

Ok...you've got rid of the "Machine Type Mismatch" error by changing that setting...good!
Patience...we're ALMOST there!

"Closure M, restart"
I understand Closure M ( just means your door was recently opened and will go away at some point when the door is closed.)
but "restart"  Scratch Head
Exactly what happens after you see "restart" on the VFD display?

You got the settings in now.
Turn off the machine then power it back up and tell us what you see.


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« Reply #146 on: January 29, 2012, 10:07:50 PM »

Dont know if I typed it in wrong or it changed when I kept opening and closing the door ....it says Closure MB  REstart...candle bottom flashing
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« Reply #147 on: January 29, 2012, 10:12:20 PM »

I wonder if there's a setting to monitor the motherboard (MPU) keylock tray in the Options?
Some casinos had locks for the MPU's with machine's set to monitor them if they were opened.

Check and see if your cash can/cash door wires are tied together and taped up.
Those wires are green and green w/blue stripe.
Candle flashing is normal until errors are cleared.


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« Reply #148 on: January 29, 2012, 10:19:42 PM »

okay, I just checked...the "Door Closure MB" error on the VFD display is the result of the two wires I mentioned for the cash door not tied off.
They need to be terminated together and taped up so they don't ground out against
anything metal in the machine cabinet.
They should be located behind the cash box area.

Pull those suckers out of there, cut them them or rip them out, strip off a 1/2" of  cover from the ends,
twist them together and throw some electrical tape over the bare twisted wires.


There MAY be two other wires like these in the belly door on the top left hand front side.
Those monitor when the belly door is open.
Twist those suckers together too and tape them up.
That should take care of all the closure "M, MB, PHD" and any other door errors.
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« Reply #149 on: January 29, 2012, 10:25:31 PM »

Can i cut the wires at the cash can door and tape them up ...right where they are wired into the door switch
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