Has anyone seen one of these?

[Mr. Dinoman]

Hello all,
Just wondering if anyone has seen one of these...I believe it is a IGT maybe with a Barcrest top...Any info would be nice...Thanks,
Jimmy

[stayouttadabunker]

Somebody was actually selling the mechanical dice on fleabay a couple of years ago...
I know IGT did have a dice game for a Bonus game topbox.
I think Suzo-Happs stills sells them?

[Mr. Dinoman]

I did not know Suzo-happ sold machines....Do you have any other information on this...I can't seem to find any..
Thanks,
Jimmy

[stayouttadabunker]

I did not know Suzo-happ sold machines....Do you have any other information on this...I can't seem to find any..
Thanks,
Jimmy

No, you've mistaken what I meant to say - Happs sells the Starpoint Dice Unit, not the ENTIRE machine...
Works with a 12v stepper motor.
I don't know if it's the same as the machine pictured in the 1st post.

Click on photo to enlarge if needed...>>>

[knagl]

I've never seen one of those before, although my gut says it's not a Barcrest, but more likely the same company that made the Cascade of Diamonds machines that used an S+ as its base.  The company is Anchor Gaming, per this post.

If it's working, awesome.  If not, support is going to be very limited for the top box portion.

[Mr. Dinoman]

where did you find that photo, or is that mine I posted?
Jimmy

[stayouttadabunker]

where did you find that photo, or is that mine I posted?
Jimmy

He's at the chiropractor's now getting his back looked at...
He had a hard time picking up your machine off the floor!   

[knagl]

where did you find that photo, or is that mine I posted?

It's the same picture you posted, just turned on its side (why people who list on Craigslist can't figure out how to CLICK THE BUTTON that does that when they create their post is beyond me  ), and blown up a little.

[stayouttadabunker]

(why people who list on Craigslist can't figure out how to CLICK THE BUTTON that does that when they create their post is beyond me  )

It's too complicated...

[cp]

I believe it"s a  Bally product.   8  or 9  yrs ago,  we had one or  two of these...could never get it 100% working...top box communication errors...   which was fine w/ me since this unit was  quite large and heavy...I can't remember if I junked it or sold it for CHEAP !! It's been a while.   There's  another Dice game  /  slot  "Roll the Dice"  ( I believe )  in upright cabinet.  Think it was Bally too ? ?

[knagl]

I believe it"s a  Bally product.   8  or 9  yrs ago,  we had one or  two of these...could never get it 100% working...top box communication errors...   which was fine w/ me since this unit was  quite large and heavy...I can't remember if I junked it or sold it for CHEAP !! It's been a while.   There's  another Dice game  /  slot  "Roll the Dice"  ( I believe )  in upright cabinet.  Think it was Bally too ? ?

I had been trying to research this one and kept coming across an old Bally game called Roll The Dice, however I just can't get over the similarity of this game and the Cascade of Diamonds game I referenced earlier in the thread.  That base game sure looks like an IGT S+, but without a better picture I can't tell for sure.  If it is a Bally game, then that must be the game I kept finding references to in my Google searches.

Edited to add:

If it is indeed the Bally game, here's a little bit of info about it:

ROLL THE DICE: With this slot from Bally Gaming, the primary game is the popular "Blazing 7s" with all if its normal benefits of frequent "7" combinations and good low-end hit frequency.

In the Nevada version of the game, there is a bonus pay table based on the sum of the dice, and that amount is multiplied by the "X" amount on the top box. The top bonus hits if the dice total three or 18 (three one-spots or three six-spots). That bonus is 400 coins or a maximum of 4,000 coins if you land the 10X.

In New Jersey, all mixed-dice results pay five coins, times the multiplier. The higher bonus awards kick in for three like results on the dice, or if the dice form a straight.

The upper-tier bonus awards come from matching fours, five or sixes on the dice: three fours, 100 coins; three fives, 200 coins; three sixes, 400 coins -- times 1X to 10X, for top bonuses of 100 to 4,000 coins.

(Source: http://www.casinogaming.com/tutorials/slots/hotslots.html )

...and...

LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 27, 1998--Alliance Gaming Corp.(NASDAQ NASDAQ
 in full National Association of Securities Dealers Automated Quotations

U.S. market for over-the-counter securities. Established in 1971 by the National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD), NASDAQ is an automated quotation system that reports on : ALLY) announced today its Bally Gaming and Systems subsidiary has received approval from the Nevada Gaming Control Board The Nevada Gaming Control Board, also known as the State Gaming Control Board, is a Nevada state governmental agency involved in the regulation of casinos throughout the state, along with the Nevada Gaming Commission. It was founded in 1955 by the Nevada Legislature.  to distribute its new Roll the Dice(TM) product. Roll the Dice is the first in a series of game-within-a-game slot machines being distributed on a recurring revenue basis.

"Second-feature bonus games have become increasingly popular with casino patrons," said Alliance president and CEO(1) (Chief Executive Officer) The highest individual in command of an organization. Typically the president of the company, the CEO reports to the Chairman of the Board.
..... Click the link for more information. Morry Goldstein. "This new product line will provide an exciting form of entertainment to casinos. Development forges ahead on the next games for this product line, as we intend to provide a continuing stream of entertaining products."

Roll The Dice consists of a slant-top, reel spinning slot machine which also contains a top box that spins three mechanical dice to award casino patrons a secondary bonus. This bonus feature is activated when a player hits a "Roll the Dice" symbol on the third reel of the slant top game. The dice-spinning feature is enhanced by special sound and lighting effects to enhance the winning event.

The company plans immediate shipment of these products to fulfill Nevada customer orders that were pending subject to receipt of regulatory approval.

Bally Gaming is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Alliance GamingAlliance Gaming NYSE: AGI is a Las Vegas, Nevada based manufacturer of slot machines and casino management software. History
On June 18, 1996 merged with Bally Gaming International.
..... Click the link for more information. Corp. Headquartered in Las Vegas Las Vegas (läs vā`gəs), city (1990 pop. 258,295), seat of Clark co., S Nev.; inc. 1911. It is the largest city in Nevada and the center of one of the fastest-growing urban areas in the United States. , Alliance Gaming is a diversified gaming company engaged primarily in the design, manufacture and distribution of advanced gaming devices and systems worldwide, is the nation's largest gaming machineSee video game console.
..... Click the link for more information. management operator, and operates two regional casinos.

CONTACT: Alliance Gaming Corp., Las Vegas

Scott D. Schweinfurth, 702/270-7625

or

Bally Gaming

Julie Mottes, 702/896-7700

(Source: http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Alliance+Gaming+Receives+Nevada+Approval+for+Roll+the+Dice.-a020531980 )


Based on those descriptions (specifically, the three spinning dice in the topbox) plus cp's post above mine, that sounds like it is the right one.

[stayouttadabunker]

I agree with you knagl...it does look like 3 dice in that photo
and the article you posted seems like a fit.

What Happs is selling - I have no clue.
On the bottom of their description, they ask
that you "contact your sales representative..."   uhh...yeah right!  

[uniman]

I believe that game is all Bally's.
Here is some Anchor Gaming info from my archieves I saved some time ago. See bolded on last paragraph.

Proprietary Games

The fastest-growing segment of Anchor Gaming's business is its proprietary games division, which has grown at an 87 percent compound rate over the past three years. The company does not actually manufacture the games. Instead, it creates ideas for novelty slot and video games, develops the game concepts, and then incorporates those concepts into existing game formats from suppliers such as International Game Technology (IGT), Bally Gaming, and Universal, then places the games in casinos throughout the United States. Proprietary games include Double Down Stud video poker, Clear Winner (a transparent slot machine), the highly-successful Wheel of Gold slot machine, the Wheel of Fortune progressive slot machine (developed in conjunction with IGT), Totem Pole (a nine-reel, eight-foot-high slot machine), and Silver Strike (a slot machine that pays out an encased souvenir silver token on a winning combination). Although Anchor initially began developing proprietary games as a complement to its own gaming machine operations, since February 1993 the company has been actively marketing its proprietary games to unaffiliated casinos; rather than selling its games to casino operators, Anchor places them on the casino floor for free in exchange for a share of the revenues. Anchor also controls games such as Cash Ball, Road Rally, and Cash Fire.

According to Anchor's joint venture agreement with IGT, the latter company has the right to take any or all of Anchor's games and place them in its wide area progressive systems (WAPs). The WAP systems link these slot machines and create large jackpots that are popular with players. Anchor continues to place its games as freestanding units in addition to the WAP units placed by the joint venture; therefore, most casino floors in the U.S. have a mix of Anchor's freestanding units and Anchor/IGT WAP units. In addition to Canada, Colorado, and Nevada, Anchor also is or has been licensed in Arizona, Connecticut, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, and South Dakota.

Entering the Game, 1993

Anchor Gaming was incorporated in Nevada on July 28, 1993 by Stanley E. Fulton, a man who had been involved in the gaming equipment business since the early 1970s. In 1976, he founded Fortune Coin, a company which introduced the first video poker game in 1977. One year later, he sold Fortune Coin, which eventually evolved into International Game Technology, ironically later becoming one of Anchor's primary business partners.

Fulton then went on to work at Gaming and Technology Inc., where he helped build one of the largest gaming routes in Nevada, eventually becoming chairman of that company, now known as Alliance Gaming Corporation.

Fulton founded Anchor Gaming's predecessor, Anchor Coin, in 1991, building another large gaming route, and eventually creating Anchor Gaming.

Also in 1993, Colorado Grande Casino outperformed the average Cripple Creek casino, generating an average of $73 in daily revenue from each of its 186 slot machines and card tables during its second year of operation (ended September 30, 1993), compared to the citywide average of $50 during the same period.

By 1994, the company operated 629 slot machines leased in 45 locations (primarily Albertson's grocery stores and Smith's) throughout the Las Vegas area. In February of that year, The Colorado Grande Gaming Parlor became the second Cripple Creek casino to be owned by a publicly traded company when Anchor Gaming raised $30.7 million in an initial stock offering of 2.75 million shares. Cripple Creek-based Alpine Gaming Inc.--which owns The Long Branch Saloon & Casino, and was making plans to merge with Denver-based Century Casinos Management Inc.--is the only other publicly traded company to own one of the city's 23 casinos. The public offering came just as the Cripple Creek economy was beginning to feel the hurt by the December closing of a tunnel on Colorado Highway 67, forcing gamblers to take long detours from the principal route to the town. Most of the money from the offering was used to pay off $17.5 million in debts, including $11.2 million to repay loans from Anchor CEO Stanley Fulton and his six children; another $1.8 million was used to buy 163,789 shares from minority shareholders in the Colorado Grande.

The following month, the company used $900,000 in cash from the public offering, and some 1.3 million shares to acquire ownership of Global Gaming Products LLC, and certain related assets from Global Gaming Distributors Inc., which leased slot machines that paid out silver tokens and serviced Anchor's leases in northern Nevada. The acquisition also gave Anchor the rights to the game Silver Strike.

October of the same year saw the company consolidate its Las Vegas offices into a new headquarters facility, expanding to 17,000 square feet of office space and 30,000 square feet of sub-assembly and warehouse space, all of which is leased. Revenues for 1994 reached $54.8 million, with a net income of $10.5 million. Revenues for the following year jumped to $97.4 million, with net income also rising, to $16 million.


In 1998, the company began shipping a stand-alone slot machine game it created, called The Totem Pole. Two other products released in 1998 included Crazy Joker and Wheel Winner Poker, both aimed at the distinct video poker market, an area that Anchor has not really focused on in the past. A third product, called Cash Ball, which features a pinball-type secondary game manufactured by WMS Industries, the world's leading pinball manufacturer, and Bally Gaming, was introduced on field trial in the Bahamas in 1998, and a fourth product, Pinball Wizard, began shipping as well.

Anchor Gaming and IGT, the largest games manufacturer in the industry, signed a joint venture agreement in September 1996 to market the Wheel of Fortune game. Starting out initially with 650 units in early 1998, by mid-year, over 4,000 units were in use in the Native American, Nevada, New Jersey, Mississippi, and Missouri markets, making it the most successful slot ever introduced on the casino floor. Also part of the joint venture were the Totem Pole progressive slot, Pinball Wizard, and Keno Bucks. But, the joint venture was not without its downside. Revenues generated from the company's Wheel of Gold game began to decline with the release of Wheel of Fortune.

Additionally, fierce competition from other companies' games, such as Bally's Roll the Dice game and IGT's Jeopardy and Vision Series games, began to squeeze out Anchor's previously unchallenged games, and analysts at the recent gaming manufacturers conference came away "unimpressed" by Anchor's Cash Ball, Wheel Winner Poker, and Big Bucks Bingo offerings, but highly touted IGT's Vision Series (a traditional fitted with an LCD screen, with "bonusing," i.e., giving the player another chance to win). By the end of fiscal 1998, though, the company should have entered new markets such as Illinois, Louisiana, and Indiana. Anchor's strong floor presence and previously unchallenged near-monopoly, track record with previous games, and aggressive marketing strategy would likely continue to carry it as an industry leader well into the 21st century.

[Mr. Dinoman]

Interesting...The person who posted a ad to sell it says it is a IGT, but I have not been able to get a hold of him to verify...If it is and it is not working, what does anyone think it is worth...I think he is asking way to much $650 for non working...

[cowboygames]

Button layout on the player panel looks more Bally than IGT to me. Looks like short wide buttons that Bally uses as opposed to the square ones IGT uses predominantly

[bruno]

ROLL THE DICE / BALLY 6000 / Top Award 4000
When you hit the "Roll The Dice" on the 3rd reel, you get the Bonus Game.
The combination of the dice (in the Top Box) gives you :
Mixed = 5
111 = 10
222 = 20
333 = 30
123 or 234 or 345 or 456 = 40
444 = 100
555 = 200
666 = 400
Multiplied by (random) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 or 10
So you can win from 5 to 4000
See pic.

[uniman]

Thanks for the info and pic, Bruno.
Found on the web that there were at least two versions, Nevada and New Jersey.

ROLL THE DICE: With this slot from Bally Gaming, the primary game is the popular "Blazing 7s" with all if its normal benefits of frequent "7" combinations and good low-end hit frequency.

In the Nevada version of the game, there is a bonus pay table based on the sum of the dice, and that amount is multiplied by the "X" amount on the top box. The top bonus hits if the dice total three or 18 (three one-spots or three six-spots). That bonus is 400 coins or a maximum of 4,000 coins if you land the 10X.

In New Jersey, all mixed-dice results pay five coins, times the multiplier. The higher bonus awards kick in for three like results on the dice, or if the dice form a straight.

The upper-tier bonus awards come from matching fours, five or sixes on the dice: three fours, 100 coins; three fives, 200 coins; three sixes, 400 coins -- times 1X to 10X, for top bonuses of 100 to 4,000 coins.

[bruno]

You're right Uniman, the base game is a classic "Blazing 7's"
After the dice result, the player must press the "Stop the Multiplier" button to determinate the "X" (It's a flashing light that revolves around the dice)
Hope you stop on 10 !    

[Op-Bell]

The dice mechanisms are made by Starpoint. It's ingenious mechanically, but basically it's the same principle as a stepper reel.